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It's true. Maynard has really "found Jesus".

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olimario

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"I found him in a Tavern in Nuevo Laredo..."


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Zilch

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Yeah, the way they always word that "found/rediscovered Jesus" makes me think it's some sort of joke or gimmick.
 
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AntoneM

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sounds like he's having some fun. I mean if MTV news sends you an e-mail asking to confirm a rumor from a message board, what are you gonna do? Of course you're going to fuck with them.

or I'm in denial :(
 
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nitewulf

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i dont get why he'd have to stop doing music even he found religion. what does one have to do with the other.
 
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Deleted member 1235

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olimario said:
Maybe he found Jesus in the Church of Christ.
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Like jesus would actually go there. I went once and it's so fucking boring, jesus would be kicking it in a garden somewhere I bet.
 
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Archaix

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nitewulf said:
i dont get why he'd have to stop doing music even he found religion. what does one have to do with the other.
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Maynard James Keenan said:
You're such an inspiration for the ways that I will never ever choose to be
Oh so many ways for me to show you how your savior has abandoned you

Fuck your god
Your lord, your christ
He did this
Took all you had and
Left you this way
Still you pray, never stray, never
Taste of the fruit
Never thought to question why

It's not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a hateful spear into his side
Praise the one who left you broken down and paralyzed
He did it all for you

He did it all for you

Oh so many ways for me to show you how your dogma has abandoned you

Pray
To your christ, to your god
Never taste of the fruit
Never stray, never break, never
Choke on a lie
Even though he's the one who
Did this to you
Never thought to question why

Not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side
Talk to Jesus Christ as if He knows the reasons why
He did it all for you

He did it all for you

He did it all for you
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Not everybody has to quit when they find jesus, but he does.
 
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FrenchMovieTheme

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this better be a god damn joke. this would be devestating to me. first billy corgan, then maynard. that would be my top 2 bands of all-time down the drain (pumpkins + tool)
 
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fallout

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Archaix said:
Not everybody has to quit when they find jesus, but he does.
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Eh? You ever read the interview pertaining to the "Fuck your God" lyrics? Went something like:

"When I say 'fuck your god', I'm referring to your god, not the God."

I've always seen it as being more about blind faith, rather than some lame bullshit about how people preach too much. As for the article ... it's Maynard.
 
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Archaix

Drunky McMurder
fallout said:
Eh? You ever read the interview pertaining to the "Fuck your God" lyrics? Went something like:

"When I say 'fuck your god', I'm referring to your god, not the God."

I've always seen it as being more about blind faith, rather than some lame bullshit about how people preach too much. As for the article ... it's Maynard.
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I'm aware it's about blind faith.

Christianity is also about blind faith.
 
karasu

karasu

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Archaix said:
Not everybody has to quit when they find jesus, but he does.
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He changed those lyrics long ago.

He could still sing stuff like The Grudge or Parabola.

We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment,
We are choosing to be here right now. Hold on, stay inside
This holy reality, this holy experience.
Choosing to be here in

This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal
All this pain is an illusion.

Alive, I

In this holy reality, in this holy experience. Choosing to be here in

This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal
All this pain is an illusion.

Twirling round with this familiar parable.
Spinning, weaving round each new experience.
Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this chance to be alive and breathing.

This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality.
Embrace this moment. Remember. We are eternal.
All this pain is an illusion
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FrenchMovieTheme

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Judith is a powerful song.

for those of you who dont know it is about his mother who was crippled (from what i understand). at least i think thats what i read it was about, maybe someone else can expand. but maynard is a master when it comes to lyrics. Eulogy is a classic.

well im feeling a bit better. i know maynard is a jokester, but this is a soft spot for me because my favorite band was torn apart by jesus* :(










*p.s. i have nothing against religion or jesus, but it is the truth
 
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fallout

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Just because it's a funny story ...

In May 1993, Tool performed at Scientology's Celebrity's Centre, apparently not knowing that this was the home of the cult. Once they found out, they were not taking it nicely. Between songs, Keenan, staring first at the lush grounds paid for by devoted L. Ron followers and then into the eyes of his own audience, bayed into the mic like a sheep looking for his shepherd's gate. 'Baaaaa! Baaaaa!' the singer bleated.
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videogamer

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Cyan said:
Oh... I always vaguely thought it was about this:
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(Judith and Holofernes, for those not up on their art history)
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Artemisia Gentileschi isn't discussed much in introductory art history texts. I remember her for her interesting life rather than for her works. :p
 
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geogaddi

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Wow. I grew up listening to Tool and honestly they were my favorite band for many years (mostly Aenima). Everything about them was awesome, artsy drum playing, Adam Jones' unique use of guitar, the "progressiveness" of their music (structures), maynards voice and the whole Tool "theme" or "world" they create. Honestly, if I ever wanted to judge any other band, I would use Tool as my foundation for judging that other band, in other words, Tool was my measuring stick to measure other bands.

One thing that I know for sure is that Maynard used to be totally against Christianity, he used to mock just about anything related to Christ on the albums and ESPECIALLY live. For instance, in the song "Eulogy" he is talking about Christ's "eulogy";

"Eulogy

He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.
We'll miss him.

So long.
We wish you well.
You told us how you weren't afraid to die.
Well then, so long.
Don't cry.
Or feel too down.
Not all martyrs see divinity.
But at least you tried.

Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud.
We'll miss him.
Ranting and pointing his finger
At everything but his heart.
We'll miss him.

No way to recall
What it was that you had said to me,
Like I care at all.

So loud.
You sure could yell.
You took a stand on every little thing
And so loud.

Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice so strong and loud and I
Swallowed his facade cuz I'm so
Eager to identify with
Someone above the ground,
Someone who seemed to feel the same,
Someone prepared to lead the way, with
Someone who would die for me.

Will you? Will you now?
Would you die for me?
Don't you fuckin lie.

Don't you step out of line.
Don't you fuckin lie.

You've claimed all this time that you would die for me.
Why then are you so surprised to hear your own eulogy?

You had alot to say.
You had alot of nothing to say.

Come down.
Get off your fuckin cross.
We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.

To ascend you must die.
You must be crucified
For your sins and your lies. [sic]
Goodbye...
"

So, if this news is true then I'm pretty shocked.
 
karasu

karasu

Member
geogaddi said:
Wow. I grew up listening to Tool and honestly they were my favorite band for many years (mostly Aenima). Everything about them was awesome, artsy drum playing, Adam Jones' unique use of guitar, the "progressiveness" of their music (structures), maynards voice and the whole Tool "theme" or "world" they create. Honestly, if I ever wanted to judge any other band, I would use Tool as my foundation for judging that other band, in other words, Tool was my measuring stick to measure other bands.

One thing that I know for sure is that Maynard used to be totally against Christianity, he used to mock just about anything related to Christ on the albums and ESPECIALLY live. For instance, in the song "Eulogy" he is talking about Christ's "eulogy";

"Eulogy

He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.
We'll miss him.

So long.
We wish you well.
You told us how you weren't afraid to die.
Well then, so long.
Don't cry.
Or feel too down.
Not all martyrs see divinity.
But at least you tried.

Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud.
We'll miss him.
Ranting and pointing his finger
At everything but his heart.
We'll miss him.

No way to recall
What it was that you had said to me,
Like I care at all.

So loud.
You sure could yell.
You took a stand on every little thing
And so loud.

Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice so strong and loud and I
Swallowed his facade cuz I'm so
Eager to identify with
Someone above the ground,
Someone who seemed to feel the same,
Someone prepared to lead the way, with
Someone who would die for me.

Will you? Will you now?
Would you die for me?
Don't you fuckin lie.

Don't you step out of line.
Don't you fuckin lie.

You've claimed all this time that you would die for me.
Why then are you so surprised to hear your own eulogy?

You had alot to say.
You had alot of nothing to say.

Come down.
Get off your fuckin cross.
We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.

To ascend you must die.
You must be crucified
For your sins and your lies. [sic]
Goodbye...
"

So, if this news is true then I'm pretty shocked.
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yeah, but his dad was a minister right? That stuff is typical rebellion. He was probably beaten over the head with the bible when he was growing up.
 
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Alucard

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Something smells fishy here. I'm not a Tool follower but this just seems way out of the ballpark for Maynard. I would wait for more details before believing something like this.
 
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Manics

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nitewulf said:
i dont get why he'd have to stop doing music even he found religion. what does one have to do with the other.
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Well the MTV article says he found Jesus and quit Tool. That would spell the end if true. I sincerely hope this is a joke, or if not a joke, he still comes out with more Tool songs. I mean he can still write great songs with a new found focus on his spirituality.
 
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Pimpwerx

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That's quite an abrupt change. If it's not a joke, then I've lost faith in humanity. You can't go from being that cynical to being born again. It just don't happen like that. Something would have to happen to restore that faith. Something BIG. PEACE.
 
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geogaddi

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Manics said:
Well the MTV article says he found Jesus and quit Tool. That would spell the end if true. I sincerely hope this is a joke, or if not a joke, he still comes out with more Tool songs. I mean he can still write great songs with a new found focus on his spirituality.
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I can't see how that could work with Danny Carey being the closest thing to being a Satanist
 
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fallout

Member
geogaddi said:
One thing that I know for sure is that Maynard used to be totally against Christianity, he used to mock just about anything related to Christ on the albums and ESPECIALLY live. For instance, in the song "Eulogy" he is talking about Christ's "eulogy";
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Well, Maynard's always said that the songs are open to any interpretation really, but in this case, Danny mentioned L. Ron Hubbard actually (it's in the FAQ linked through TDN, I think).

For me, to say that the song is about Christ is just too ... straightforward. I prefer the more liberal and generic interpretation that it's about false prophets and those people that abuse the vulnerability of others for personal gain.
 
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Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
anything is possible that isn't posted on the two biggest tool sites one day before april fools' day.
 
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Bristow

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It is true. Accept it. Tool fans need to accept the fact their lord and savior has found the real Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
 
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Manics

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tt_deeb said:
Whoever for a second believes this is true is not a Tool fan.
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I don't like absolutes like this. I can be a fan of Tool and STILL believe Maynard has found Jesus. Jesus and Maynard both rock.
 
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tt_deeb

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Manics said:
I don't like absolutes like this. I can be a fan of Tool and STILL believe Maynard has found Jesus. Jesus and Maynard both rock.
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I haven't said anything about Jesus I'm just saying Maynard can NEVER be taken seriously.
 
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