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J.K Rowling Unveils the magic school names for U.S.A, Brazil, Japan, and Africa
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Please, it was and always will be Hermione.
Matt_
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IIRC you're not allowed to tell them and definitely can't do magic infront of them
There is something in the back story of McGonogal about it, where her mum gave up magic for years to be with a muggle (i think)
Although that may have been a personal choice rather than a law thing
Hermione is boring. Harry as much as says so in Book 4 when he only hangs out with her for a couple of months.
Who does he really hang out with for more than a couple of months, though, considering the Tri-Wizard Tournament in all its stages?
E: School in Africa seems legit. Would attend. UK wizards would be pretty wrecked by them.
Garrett Hawke
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That seems severe... but why would they have to do that if we know that muggle parents of magic users are allowed to know about magic? (i.e. the Grangers go to Diagon Alley)
What's the process for that as well?
That seems a bit immoral
This post is honestly disgusting, please think about why you wrote this and why you have these opinions.
DrForester
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There's some inconsistency. Apparently the wizard can tell their spouse only after they are married. But sometimes the wizard has to live as a muggle if they marry one, and sometimes not. That's where the inconsistency lies.
I would imagine Divorce would proceed as normal. I doubt the Ministry would even care about the divorced Muggle Spouse. Probably fall into the same category as the Dursleys or other families of Muggle Born students. They know, the assumption is they'll keep their mouth shut, and if they don't other muggles will just see them as nuts.
Pretty sure Cho doesn't make an appearance at all until book four, though. The more surprising thing is that no one at her publisher thought to double check the name of the girl Harry spends so much time mooning over.
This wouldn't even be something people complained about if Cho actually got to do anything other than being Harry's crush. Even once she joins Dumbledore's Army, it's her friend who ruins everything and so she basically disappears from the books again. Justin Finch-Fletchley might have more of an actual presence in the books in the end.
She's introduced in Book 3.
Garrett Hawke
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Interesting. But I guess that makes sense about the divorced partner... although I imagine if they were particularly scorned or whatever they'd probably get brain wiped.
DrForester
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Cho showed up in book 3. Harry had to play against her in Quiddich.
Cho did give Harry the rebound Boyfriend treatment. I didn't think she was treated very unfairly.
Shit, you're right.
Still, point being: she was not created while Rowling was struggling so severely economically. I don't think it's particularly classist to suggest an established author should maybe make sure their Asian character's name checks out, especially if they don't feel particularly well informed about Asian culture.
Nah, not that big a deal. I just maintain that two last names is worse than "wow, this school's name translates very literally," particularly given that very literal translations is a Harry Potter staple.
You're saying that like she's a real person, though. She didn't make that choice to do something that would get her dismissed from the narrative. Rowling did.
That's kind of my point. Twice she gave Cho a good reason to disappear from the plot. It just kind of sucks that she is such a nothing presence and it makes the silly name an easy target.
DrForester
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So is there anything stereotypical about the names of the two Indian girls in Harry's class?
Patil does sound pretty indian. But I could be influenced by the movies (saw them first).
So the success of HP invalidates Rowling's background? As soon as she found financial footing she should have been deeply scouring the web or other academic sources in order to create an impervious culturally sensitive lore? She's not a digital native; She wouldn't know where to find the right information. Nor would she have gained the premonition for everything to look out for. I've already made the point that it's perfectly reasonable for her to have at least expended some effort to craft an authentic name, yet could still have made an earnest mistake. Chang was a minor character, and certainly would not be allotted much of Rowling's mental budget. Especially when she had publishing contracts that she had to fulfill, the major plot details mattered more.
Additionally, the critics of Cho Chang's name couldn't even be bothered to research enough to know that the names are also Chinese. When you realize that, you realize how human it is to make err. Two surnames isn't even something I would expect a publisher to catch, but it seems that some surnames can be used as first names as well too.
I think every HP name is somewhat stereotypical, including the English ones. Brian Percival Wulfric is so Briton it sounds like it comes from the King Arthur saga
but yeah, not a big deal
SixMachine
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Cho'gath Chang sounds like a awesome racist LoL skin.
Chinese translations of the books have had her name as 張秋, (Cho being 'Autumn') which by pinyin should be Zhāng Qiū. Not sure if that's cannon, but Chang Cho isn't too bad I guess. English can never get it completely right in any case, which is why a lot of people adopt a Christian name. On top of that she's obviously Glaswegian, so have to say it in that accent.
You understimate how ridiculously easy english is to learn, and Romance languages are ridiculously hard to, even if they're "kinda similar".
Specially french. fuck french.
bagandscalpel
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I knew it wasn't pinyin, but it even fell short of being Wade-Giles (Ch'iu Chang, if I'm not mistaken).
Oh well, the name served its purpose. Harry got that yellow fever for a while, there.
What lmao. French, Spanish, and Italian are the easiest languages to learn. English is much harder than them, this is like a known fact.
Que?
MatrixMan.EXE
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Funny, because I distinctly remember reading somehwere that Naruto was originally going to be about a school of Wizardry while in the concept stages, but Kishimoto changed it to Ninjas when Harry Potter came out and blew up.
Chiaroscuro
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Brazilian too. "Wizardcastle".
Admiral Woofington
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What's our school chant America GAF?
Is it Free Bird?
Is it Free Bird?
Unknown Soldier
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Unusually among the magic using peoples of the world, the mages of Livermorny learn how to use the Muggle weapons called 'guns' and they even take courses on creating magic-enchanted bullets for using these 'guns' on other mages.
Unsurprisingly, no one on Earth fucks with American witches and wizards.
Trojita
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Best school of magic there ever was.
That's true, a real American school would have "Brook", "Wood", or a cardinal direction in its name
Ilvermorny is #1 ranked on a number of worldwide publications.
The impact factor of the research the faculty publishes, the endowment, the amenities, history, and prestige all contribute to this venerable institution of higher magical learning.
Their alumni have consistently contributed incredible scholarship, humanitarian aid, and creative work to the global community.
Indeed, it has been said by John F. Kennedy that there is no greater distinction and honor that to be a Ilvermorny man.
The impact factor of the research the faculty publishes, the endowment, the amenities, history, and prestige all contribute to this venerable institution of higher magical learning.
Their alumni have consistently contributed incredible scholarship, humanitarian aid, and creative work to the global community.
Indeed, it has been said by John F. Kennedy that there is no greater distinction and honor that to be a Ilvermorny man.
I wish the Japanese school was in some place old and majestic, like Kyoto or somewhere. I looked up that island, there's like no space on it at all. It's mostly mountain. How do people get food there? Walk around? It just seems horribly impractical. Magic can't solve everything. Even Hogwarts needed level ground for a castle and space for a Quidditch field and so on.
Trojita
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You only see an inhospitable mountain because it's wrapped in illusions and charms to beguile muggle eyes.
#AtlantisIsReal
Trojita
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Why are all the Aurora white wizards?
As someone who's grown up in America (so my perspective might be skewed): every English or Spanish teacher I've ever had has always said that English has so many exceptions to every rule that it's incredibly difficult to learn. That being said, I find that Spanish is structured in a way that makes it really easy to learn. At least in English speaking countries, the point that woodland is making is definitely the prevalent one.
Wizard Cram School is a serious problem.
I wonder if they have Wizard Assistant Language Teachers lol.
I think native languages, but I don't recall. I wonder what the translation convention is?
I would assume if they want to carry over the Latin equivalent, the Japanese students would chant in old Chinese.
BreezyLimbo
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The words are usually just for giving the spell 'form'. It's possible in the universe to cast spells without saying their incantation, meaning that...I dunno. MAGIC.
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