I'm not sure if there's a huge phenomenon about the transformers but the movies make bank. Then again TF is a huge franchise and has always had it's own conventions and shit.
Jack Reynor to star in Transformers 4
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I'm not sure if there's a huge phenomenon about the transformers but the movies make bank. Then again TF is a huge franchise and has always had it's own conventions and shit.
So, will this new trilogy focus on stopping that fucking psychopath Optimus Prime?
I still think Mark Wahlberg is a crap choice to star in this movie. Unless he plays a comedy character, then fine. I really can't take him being serious or badass. Maybe he'll die in the first movie. Hopefully.
I still think Mark Wahlberg is a crap choice to star in this movie. Unless he plays a comedy character, then fine. I really can't take him being serious or badass. Maybe he'll die in the first movie. Hopefully.
Doctor West
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I thought the last movie was the end of this shit franchise. Now they're are going for three more? Fuck off.
Being part of the problem is a guilty pleasure for me.
Sometimes you guys don't seem to know how the world works. Like these companies are supposed to stop making millions of dollars with these films because Doctor West and some other Gaffers didn't like them.
The former was a given already and the latter is an absurd notion. It'll make a billion dollars and nothing will change.
This is the exact reason I stop giving a shit about CoD being put out every year and Twilight movies keep getting made.
TUROK
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Hey, you should start an online petition calling for the cancellation of this movie.
lol.
TemplaerDude
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Please stop making these movies.
Messofanego
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you know I bet little by little Bay may just try to phase out transformers out of the transformers movies completely. I don't think they were really there a lot in the third one were they?
They'll change for the 4th movie alright, by being there for maybe 5-10 minutes, then the humans will take over and stuff.
They'll change for the 4th movie alright, by being there for maybe 5-10 minutes, then the humans will take over and stuff.
DeaconKnowledge
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Oh great, another actor to take screen time away from the Transformers.
Who said the transformers were the stars of the movies? LOL cmon
Lionel Mandrake
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Seriously, was this scene honestly supposed to be heroic?
I mean, I know, Michael Bay, big dumb action movie and whatever, but come on.
We've got an old man weakly crawling away for his life (a father figure no less), who sadly explains how he merely wanted to save his species. He's beaten down and no longer a threat to anyone. Optimus raises his gun, and in horror the old man screams "No, Optimus!" in a pleading manner. After a gravelly, angry one-liner, Optimus shoots him in the chest with such force it propels him against the bridge, and then we see a shot from behind his head (Almost as if we're supposed to see it from his perspective) as the "hero" blows his brains out. And I mean brains. Up to this point I hadn't noticed any of the robots having red fluids within their body, or mechanics that resemble human brains within their heads. But when Optimus executes a feeble old man at point-blank, shit gets anatomical.
And then, there's the following shot of Optimus standing straight up after his massacring, amidst an eerie silence, and then "BOM BOM... BOM BOM" That musical cue doesn't come off as heroic. That's the kind of cue you'd expect to hear after Cobra Commander reveals himself to the United Nations or some shit. I mean, Michael Bay isn't a good director, but he's not an incompetent one either. Surely he must have seen that footage and thought... That's just evil looking. This isn't just something having evil undertones. I honestly don't see how you could make that without actively trying to make Optimus look like a villain.
To re-iterate, I was never a big Transformers fan, and I don't care much for the characterizations and what-not, but from just a movie watching standpoint-- what the fuck?
I mean, I know, Michael Bay, big dumb action movie and whatever, but come on.
We've got an old man weakly crawling away for his life (a father figure no less), who sadly explains how he merely wanted to save his species. He's beaten down and no longer a threat to anyone. Optimus raises his gun, and in horror the old man screams "No, Optimus!" in a pleading manner. After a gravelly, angry one-liner, Optimus shoots him in the chest with such force it propels him against the bridge, and then we see a shot from behind his head (Almost as if we're supposed to see it from his perspective) as the "hero" blows his brains out. And I mean brains. Up to this point I hadn't noticed any of the robots having red fluids within their body, or mechanics that resemble human brains within their heads. But when Optimus executes a feeble old man at point-blank, shit gets anatomical.
And then, there's the following shot of Optimus standing straight up after his massacring, amidst an eerie silence, and then "BOM BOM... BOM BOM" That musical cue doesn't come off as heroic. That's the kind of cue you'd expect to hear after Cobra Commander reveals himself to the United Nations or some shit. I mean, Michael Bay isn't a good director, but he's not an incompetent one either. Surely he must have seen that footage and thought... That's just evil looking. This isn't just something having evil undertones. I honestly don't see how you could make that without actively trying to make Optimus look like a villain.
To re-iterate, I was never a big Transformers fan, and I don't care much for the characterizations and what-not, but from just a movie watching standpoint-- what the fuck?
DeaconKnowledge
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The "old man father figure" planned to enslave an entire planets' denizens for his planet's gain. This is the main reason Optimus has been fighting Megatron for thousands of years.
As for Micahel Bay, he doesn't give a shit about the content of Transformers. He just thinks it's robots smashing together and sexy cars driving sexy chicks around.
Lionel Mandrake
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Regardless, the way it was shot was like something out of a Tarantino movie, not Transformers.
DeaconKnowledge
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Fair enough. No argument there.
As I said in my edit; Bay doesn't give a shit about the characterization. All three movies are shot as set pieces. Humans drive the plot, robots come in and start fighting each other. Everything else was an afterthought.
AgentOtaku
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TF 1 Prime: "Peace is the right of all sentient beings."
TF 2 Prime: "GIVE ME YOUR FACE"
DeaconKnowledge
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I really wish Hasbro would get another Director who actually gives a shit about the source material.
How could they be the driving force behind the amazing Transformers Prime and these garbage movies?
How could they be the driving force behind the amazing Transformers Prime and these garbage movies?
TF 3 Prime: "We will kill them all."
ThatCrazyGuy
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Wait, Bay is doing a new trilogy by himself? Wtf. I thought somebody else was going to take over after this tf4. It needs some new blood dammit.
address? there needs to be more Murderous Prime.
shira
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Murder if just for humans.
If anything kills another robot. That is just recycling.
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Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Murder if just for humans.
If anything kills another robot. That is just recycling.
Gotta make room for the new toys. It's the Transformers way.
Discotheque
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lmao. This write-up just made this scene hilarious to me now.
starchild excalibur
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What the fuck is that? SimCity-tron?
ThatCrazyGuy
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I've been ranting about this for all the films. He just comes off the guy that they have to follow, just the boss (cause he will murder you, haha).
He doesnt come off as a leader, one that inspires and people are following because they believe in him.
I mean, he is badass and will kill at will, which is cool and all and is fun for the movies. I guess my take is that its not the heart of the character.
He just has no damn personality really. The writers are to blame a lot of course.
He has this problem in Prime as well. He is dull and boring to me there.
TUROK
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He has a lot of personality. In G1, he was like this infallible space Jesus, which was cool and all, but a tad one-dimensional.
In the Bay movies, he's actually kind of "human." He gets angry when his friends die, he holds grudges, and he's not a big fan of mercy. He's a badass.
I'm reading that thread right now, and I honestly can't tell if it's one of the thickest and longest (lol) pieces of satire I've ever read, or if the author has aspergers and is just interpreting everything way too literally without a tinge of self-awareness for how damn weird his interpretations are.
The Faceless Master
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only exhibit 4 was questionable.
Phat Michael
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Rubbish. They havent used even 10% of either side. Trypticon, Skywarp, Thundercracker, insecticons, Bruticus, Menasaur, Predaking, Scourge, Cyclonus, Galvatron, Unicron, Blitzwing, Astrotrain etc. There are huge amounts of both sides left to fill the cast of a movie.
Phat Michael
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Metroplex.
Related:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s
edit: coincidentally, it also does an accurate job of displaying my thoughts on the matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s
edit: coincidentally, it also does an accurate job of displaying my thoughts on the matter.
Eh, I guess they could easily shoehorn in the likes of Skywarp, Thundercracker, etc. to fill in the Starscream role. We will need to see dogfights after all.
Would actually love to see a ginormous one like Trypticon just for Bay to one-up his previous set pieces. A finale in which they fight a huge Decepticon would be pretty cool. Devastator was wank in the second film and a ruined opportunity.
Unicron's a bit unrealistic and Hasbro seem to hate using Galvatron which is a shame as he's better than Megatron.
Not saying that there aren't awesome other characters to use but they're not on the same level of Megatron/Starscream/Soundwave/Shockwave where being memorable is concerned, IMO. I do agree with you though on what alternatives they could use as I'm fond of many of them.
None of those would work as the primary villain though, unless of course Galvatron is used which is extremely unlikely. Gonna need dat big bad rival to Prime.
I NEED SCISSORS
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People watch Transformers for the people and story?
I watch it for the CGI and wub wub wub FX.
I watch it for the CGI and wub wub wub FX.
The funniest part is that the Decepticons actually take prisoners while Optimus orders his guys to "kill them all" lol
Killing Megatron while he asks for a truce isn't really nice as well
Ban Puncher
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Murderous Prime saw the G1 movie and knew not to waver, lest the Hot Rod of his universe jump out and shit everything up.
I did. I love Michael Bay. Watched Transformers twice in the cinemas, watched Revenge of the Fallen once, watched Dark of the Moon twice too - once in IMAX 3D, and once in regular 3D. I have the first two on blu-ray, haven't gotten around to getting the third yet, but I definitely will.
Gonna watch Transformers 4 on day one too, but first, 2013 is the year of Pain & Gain!
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