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[TUROK]

The funniest part is that the Decepticons actually take prisoners while Optimus orders his guys to "kill them all" lol


Killing Megatron while he asks for a truce isn't really nice as well

They take prisoners to execute them. They killed Wheeljack even though he was just a scientist that never even engaged in anything remotely resembling violence. If you're trying to imply that the Autobots are somehow more ruthless than the Decepticons, then you're totally off base.

Killing Jazz, killing Sam, killing Optimus, enslaving all of Cybertron, and enabling your superior to try to either kill the entire human race or enslave them aren't exactly nice things either.

 

[Busty]

I'll go and see this film if we hear Optimus Prime say the following line of dialogue to Mark Wahlberg's character.

"..., but I do not have a Mother to say hi to."

 

[Kinyou]

They take prisoners to execute them. They killed Wheeljack even though he was just a scientist that never even engaged in anything remotely resembling violence. If you're trying to imply that the Autobots are somehow more ruthless than the Decepticons, then you're totally off base.

If I recall correctly did they only start to execute the prisoners after the Sentinel Prime ordered them to. So while they still follow that order did they at least bother to take prisoners at all.

Killing Jazz, killing Sam, killing Optimus, enslaving all of Cybertron, and enabling your superior to try to either kill the entire human race or enslave them aren't exactly nice things either.

It's just that you expect all this bad guy stuff from the Deceptions because they're the bad guys. Of course do they want to conquer the entire planet/kill everyone.

And it simply gets weird when all of the sudden the good guys say stuff like "We'll kill them all" or "Take no prisoners" which is something you would have expected the bad guys to say.

 

[The Faceless Master]

The funniest part is that the Decepticons actually take prisoners while Optimus orders his guys to "kill them all" lol

they were making a strategic decision at that point in time. it wasn't long before that when the Decepticons tried to kill them all in that shuttle sabotage.

Killing Megatron while he asks for a truce isn't really nice as well

the last dude that had a truce with him got shot in the back mere seconds before that. can't trust that dude.

 

[Messofanego]

I did. I love Michael Bay. Watched Transformers twice in the cinemas, watched Revenge of the Fallen once, watched Dark of the Moon twice too - once in IMAX 3D, and once in regular 3D. I have the first two on blu-ray, haven't gotten around to getting the third yet, but I definitely will.

Gonna watch Transformers 4 on day one too, but first, 2013 is the year of Pain & Gain!

You know what would make this even better? If you watched them all alone.

 

[MarkMclovin]

People watch Transformers for the people and story?

I watch it for the CGI and wub wub wub FX.

I watch it for angry Lebeouf

 

[duckroll]

You know what would make this even better? If you watched them all alone.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that isn't the case. There are many Michael Bay fans out there.

 

[TUROK]

If I recall correctly did they only start to execute the prisoners after the Sentinel Prime ordered them to. So while they still follow that order did they at least bother to take prisoners at all.


It's just that you expect all this bad guy stuff from the Deceptions because they're the bad guys. Of course do they want to conquer the entire planet/kill everyone.

And it simply gets weird when all of the sudden the good guys say stuff like "We'll kill them all" or "Take no prisoners" which is something you would have expected the bad guys to say.

It was actually Dylan who ordered the execution. It wasn't mercy, it was strategy.

Well, they did try to kill them when they were supposedly leaving the planet in peace. I'd be like "fuck your face" too. Like I said, I think it makes them more realistic characters than the typical good guys who always abide by some battlefield honor code.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that isn't the case. There are many Michael Bay fans out there.

Damn skippy. I fucking love Michael Bay movies.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I've been ranting about this for all the films. He just comes off the guy that they have to follow, just the boss (cause he will murder you, haha).

He doesnt come off as a leader, one that inspires and people are following because they believe in him.

I mean, he is badass and will kill at will, which is cool and all and is fun for the movies. I guess my take is that its not the heart of the character.

He just has no damn personality really. The writers are to blame a lot of course.

He has this problem in Prime as well. He is dull and boring to me there.

Transformers Prime Optimus is the best Optimus. He makes the most sense.

Optimus has had to deal with many great decisions as leader of the Autobots and ultimately the would-be savior of Cybertron. Under his leadership the War for Cybertron was started, wherein he had to kill millions of his former brethren either directly or by command, the Allspark was jettisoned into space, preventing any new Transformers of any affiliation from being created. He also ordered the mass Exodus of every existing Autobot from Cybertron, and in the process conscribed other Transformers from neighbouring planets who have long left Cybertron into the war. All of this while holding out the dim hope that he could repair the relationship between both factions instead of further killing his countrymen, and all before the events of TFP. Optimus more than any other Transformer has a massive burden placed onto him. A leader like that is going to be near emotionless, focused on his task before anything else. He wouldn't be able to function otherwise.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that isn't the case. There are many Michael Bay fans out there.

I think that is what disappoints me about these movies more than anything. I like Michael Bay. I like the movies he made before Transformers. His style doesn't fit these movies at all. He makes films based on the sexualization of human characters and relationships. None of this transfers over to the Transformers themselves. All of the emotion, all of the plot, all of the dialog in all three films was expressed through humans. Bay is doing what he's good at, which is fine for a movie like Bad Boys and Pain and Gain, but not so much for Transformers.

 

[Omni]

As long as that terrible actor isn't in it, I don't even care (Forgot name. The main human from the other 3 movies who winges and screams a lot)


So terrible hah.

 

[G-Fex]

As long as that terrible actor isn't in it, I don't even care (Forgot name. The main human from the other 3 movies)

hopefully they'll never ever bring him up again.

I heard they talked shit about megan fox in the third one.

 

[NinjaFridge]

hopefully they'll never ever bring him up again.

I heard they talked shit about megan fox in the third one.

Meg > Rosie

 

[MattKeil]

He has a lot of personality. In G1, he was like this infallible space Jesus, which was cool and all, but a tad one-dimensional.

See, that's the thing, is he's absolutely not that in G1. The infallible space Jesus interpretation is something applied to him incorrectly after the fact by fans who don't really remember the show all that well. G1 Prime laughed at jokes, played basketball to learn about Earth customs, chastised his troops for doing stupid shit, got pissed when Megatron cheated at a sacred Cybertronian rite, was rude and short with his friends when he failed at things, and in general was a pretty well-rounded character. This was rare in the G1 show, and is probably only a result of Prime having so much screentime over three years, but it really wasn't until they started bringing him back after his death that they began treating him as some kind of robo-messiah.

The most "infallible space Jesus" depiction of an Optimus is probably in the first season of Transformers Prime, where it gets to the point that he almost seems to have no character at all, but it turns out to be in service to what happens at the end of Season 1.

Spoiler

Optimus sacrifices his own spark to stop Unicron, and ends up thinking he's Orion Pax, his former self before he became Optimus Prime. Megatron quickly realizes this is a golden opportunity and uses Orion's ignorance to mold him into a Decepticon.

 

[Parallacs]

As long as that terrible actor isn't in it, I don't even care (Forgot name. The main human from the other 3 movies who winges and screams a lot)


So terrible hah.

His name is Indiana Jones Jr

Get ready for an exciting next fourty years.