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Jackson lawyer rips teen accusers
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Ignatz Mouse
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There goes their credibility right there.
Those poor elephants.
So basically the defense is just going to paint the accusers as hooligans, and the prosecuters are going to paint Jackson as a freak with metal problems.
I doubt they are going to keep what stuck stick when the criminal trial is over, and it's going to go to a civil case and Jackson's going to end up settling again.
Then in five years, it'll start all over again.
I doubt they are going to keep what stuck stick when the criminal trial is over, and it's going to go to a civil case and Jackson's going to end up settling again.
Then in five years, it'll start all over again.
soundwave05
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Starting to hear some shady stuff about the mother like how she tried to get Jay Leno and other celebs to give money to her son but they called the authorities on her.
Like the Kobe Bryant case, I think this is entirely a cash grab and the mother has no intention of going all the way with a criminal trial. She probably wants to get a civil suit, where she's hoping she'll get a huge pay off from Jackson.
Like the Kobe Bryant case, I think this is entirely a cash grab and the mother has no intention of going all the way with a criminal trial. She probably wants to get a civil suit, where she's hoping she'll get a huge pay off from Jackson.
I will be the first to admit that jackson has some serious psychological issues and needs some sort of intervention by his family to straighten him the fuck out.
however I don't believe he has ever had a malicious or harmful intent towards children (according to the law, not just what he "believes"). I have said from the beginning that this woman is a fucking psychopath bent on extorting and harrassing famous people to try and gain wealth from it.
it is a shame the kids were brought into this. even if they are hooligans (or not) it is a shame that anyone should have to be raised by such a vindictive and evil bitch.
at least if any good comes out of this, the bitch will do jail time and maybe once and for all Jackson's family will step in and force him to stop putting himself in these positions. You love kids? Fine, put up a children's hospital or a private fund raising concert. Stop putting yourself in these positions where pieces of shit can try to extort money out of you.
The only thing that really sucks is that even when jackson is acquitted of all charges, the mother will still probably make a boatload of money in publishing deals and movie rights.... :\
however I don't believe he has ever had a malicious or harmful intent towards children (according to the law, not just what he "believes"). I have said from the beginning that this woman is a fucking psychopath bent on extorting and harrassing famous people to try and gain wealth from it.
it is a shame the kids were brought into this. even if they are hooligans (or not) it is a shame that anyone should have to be raised by such a vindictive and evil bitch.
at least if any good comes out of this, the bitch will do jail time and maybe once and for all Jackson's family will step in and force him to stop putting himself in these positions. You love kids? Fine, put up a children's hospital or a private fund raising concert. Stop putting yourself in these positions where pieces of shit can try to extort money out of you.
The only thing that really sucks is that even when jackson is acquitted of all charges, the mother will still probably make a boatload of money in publishing deals and movie rights.... :\
SolidSnakex
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soundwave05 said:
She actually got some money from some celebs. You know what she did with it? Bought implants. Her son is covered by his fathers insurance.
soundwave05
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Honestly, I hope this doesn't go to a civil suit. Let it be settled in the criminal courts and if it looks like the mother is a gold digger, SHE should be put on trial.
I mean really, I'll be the first to say Jackson is a weird guy who needed a big time wake up call into reality, but seriously after the sh-tstorm of bad press from the Bashir interview, even if he was a child molester, would he molest the kid already seen on national TV?
Because the entire case from the prosecution is that Jackson started molesting the kid after the Bashir interview.
I mean c'mon, this smelled like a crock of BS right from the start, but people are willing to believe it because Jackson is so weird.
I mean really, I'll be the first to say Jackson is a weird guy who needed a big time wake up call into reality, but seriously after the sh-tstorm of bad press from the Bashir interview, even if he was a child molester, would he molest the kid already seen on national TV?
Because the entire case from the prosecution is that Jackson started molesting the kid after the Bashir interview.
I mean c'mon, this smelled like a crock of BS right from the start, but people are willing to believe it because Jackson is so weird.
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Phoenix
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soundwave05 said:
Unfortunately the US doesn't have an 'accuser penalty' as part of its judicial proceedings.
The funniest part of ALL of this is that it has absolutely nothing to do with the actual criminal proceedings. None of this speaks to molestation at all and at the end of the day the judge will remind the jury that the only thing of relevance is whether or not there is sufficient credible evidence that molestation actually took place.
To be honest, Jackson can win this case easily by breaking into song and singing "You can't win" from The Wiz soundtrack
After that the trial would be over.
Deg said:
Model/profile building is a two-edged sword.
Characteristics of a Pedophile :
* Often the pedophile is male and over 30 years of age.
* Single or with few friends in his age group.
* If married, the relationship is more "companion" based with no sexual relations.
* He is often vague about time gaps in employment which may indicate a loss in employment for questionable reasons or possible past incarceration.
Pedophiles Like Child-like Activities:
* He is often fascinated with children and child activities appearing to prefer those activities to adult oriented activities.
* He will often refer to children in pure or angelic terms using descriptives like innocent, heavenly, divine, pure, and other words that describe children but seem inappropriate and exaggerated.
* He has hobbies that are child-like such as collecting popular expensive toys, keeping reptiles or exotic pets, or building plane and car models.
Pedophiles Often Prefer Children Close to Puberty:
* Pedophiles often have a specific age of child they target. Some prefer younger children, some older.
* Often his environment or a special room will be decorated in child-like decor and will appeal to the age and sex of the child he is trying to entice.
* Many pedophiles often prefer children close to puberty who are sexually inexperienced, but curious about sex.
The problem with "Pedophiles Like Child-like Activities" is that this describes many people I know who run daycare centers in their free time I know a few who build models, and buy pop electronic toys... oh shit they are da pedo's!
DarienA said:
:lol Point is his behaviour deserves the suspicion without a shadow of doubt. And no people in general who run daycare centers dont act like MJ at all of course.
MJ is a fantastic musician. One of the all time greats. That doesnt mean he should be immune to the law. I think the fans need to be more realistic. The haters need to understand that you can like music by him, his behaviour is another matter.
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SolidSnakex said:
are you for real? man, this whole thing gets shadier by the minute.
SolidSnakex
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quadriplegicjon said:
They were talking about it on CNN yesterday. They really have a crazy amount of ammo on this family.
"She got a breast enhancement and a tummy tuck and then told Mr. Jackson and all these people that she was destitute," said lawyer Thomas Mesereau Jr., at a court hearing.
" ABC News reported last night that a paralegal that worked for the lawyer representing the family in the suit has told the Jackson defense the mother lied under oath and fabricated the charges against the security guards.
The paralegal also claimed that the mother coached her son to lie in his deposition against the store. "
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/41380.htm
Everyone I know who is following the trial is really rooting for him....it will be interesting to see how it turns out. Like with the Kobe Bryant case, I think the accuser has way too much credibility issues to get a "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" verdict for a charge (molestation) where there's no direct physical evidence.
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The mum could well be shady, probably doesn't mean jackson from touched her kid in the bathing suit area. People profit off their familys misery all the time, that's probably what this woman is trying to do.
That said, i think michael jackson fucks kids and at least tried to fuck this kid. his penis also apparently looks like a candy cane, but that is neither here nor there.
Also, how come every one of his kids is white? You wanna talk about shady? That's frickin shady.
That said, i think michael jackson fucks kids and at least tried to fuck this kid. his penis also apparently looks like a candy cane, but that is neither here nor there.
Also, how come every one of his kids is white? You wanna talk about shady? That's frickin shady.
Ninja Scooter
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junkster said:
don't be devilish
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catfish said:
well.. the mom is white.. and they barely get any sun.
Kuro Madoushi
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Ninja Scooter said:
I was being serious. I'm still very close to several of my former psychology college professors and I like to pick their brains about current events.
The universally held (off the record) opinion is that MJ was abused as a child and never fully experienced/had/enjoyed childhood. Touching children is a way of stealing innocence from children. Hence, they lose childhood as well. Essentially it becomes "If I can't, they won't either."
But his fragile, senitive ego can't handle the thought of him being a monster so he hides behind being a child and loving children as a defense mechanism. Hurting children and seemingly helping children keep him "stable".
Off the record but still a consensus, and somewhat fact based since this is coming from educated people. Plus it makes sense.
Obviously I'm not saying "This is truth" since I have no facts besides media but it makes sense psychologically.
Of course, it assumes that he is in fact guilty to support its conclusion that he is guilty. Also, what record is there to be on? Unless your profs are jurors in the trial, or expert witnesses, they don't exactly have any responsibility to go 'off the record' heh.
There are a million plausible explanations that fit the facts as they are established. Lots of them mean he's guilty, lots mean he's not.
Frankly, I doubt we'll ever really know the truth as fact. This trial will be a circus of attempts to defame by both sides and will probably end in some kind of mistrial or confusion-leads-to-doubt-leads-to-acquital kind of result.
Unless there's some actual smoking gun physical evidence out there. None of the physical evidence so far is particularily convincing of abuse to me. Stupid and neglectful care of children fits just as well.
There are a million plausible explanations that fit the facts as they are established. Lots of them mean he's guilty, lots mean he's not.
Frankly, I doubt we'll ever really know the truth as fact. This trial will be a circus of attempts to defame by both sides and will probably end in some kind of mistrial or confusion-leads-to-doubt-leads-to-acquital kind of result.
Unless there's some actual smoking gun physical evidence out there. None of the physical evidence so far is particularily convincing of abuse to me. Stupid and neglectful care of children fits just as well.
Takuan said:
sadly, I don't think it will. I'd love to follow this case a bit more closely but the media in Australia doesn't follow it religiously - any good websites?
I hope Michael is cleared of these ridiculous charges - I remember that stolen video from the plane Michael and his lawyer was on; he was relaxed and said there was nothing to the case and that he had nothing to worry about
and ... .he started to molest the children AFTER that interview? WHAT THE FUCK.
The Chosen One
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Odnetnin said:
EOnline seems to have pretty good daily coverage of the Michael Jackson trial.
http://www.eonline.com/News/Specials/Jackson/index.html?fdfour3
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