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January Wrasslin' |OT| The Assassination of Daniel Bryan by the Coward Vince McMahon
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THE MAIN EVENT PLAYA,HIS TIME IS NOW
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Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
I'm indifferent with DB not being in the Rumble. It's like WWE wanted to do a concussion angle that would make DB unavailable for the Rumble by getting his head smashed on the barricade but didn't follow through.
FAAAAANNNNNN DAAAAANNNNN
There's no story for him right now with the lack of heels. He basically has Sandow, Barrett, Ryback, Axel, Fandango, Clay, and Real-Americans to choose from for opponents unless they turn him heel, which is unlikely. Christian coming back as a heel may be a good choice for his next rivalry. But the mid-card heels don't currently give Big E a good boost as IC champ. Barrett is the best choice and I've yet to see him compete since his return. ADR would be good, but he's occupied until his beef with Brotista is done. shield and Wyatts are occupied, too.
Other people not on the show or mentioned and therefore buried:
CM Punk
Kane's abs
El Torito
Damien Sandow
3MB
The Rock
PTP
Khali
Zack Ryder
Mark Henry
Big Show
Santino
Vince McMahon
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Bring back Bo from NXT. He already beat Big E for a belt once before, he sure as fuck can do it again!
Add JTG.
Perspicacity
Banned
Bo Dallas getting a Honky Tonk Man style run with the belt would be Bo-atloads of fun.
So, I haven't watched wrestling in about 10+ years. Grantland's article on last night's Royal Rumble brought me back, but I ended up missing it. I also ended up missing Raw, but judging by some of the impressions in this very thread, it seems I didn't miss much.
What has turned me away for so long is the blandness of the wrestlers, and it seems nothing has changed. When I watched it (Attitude Era - Ruthless Aggression Era), there was diversity amongst the stable: Grapplers, Submissioners, High-flyers, Hardcore specialists, Strikers, etc. Now though, everyone wrestles the same, uses the same tactics, and uses some of the same gimmicks (R-Truth, for example, seems like Booker-T without the charisma). And those are the ones that AREN'T getting any push. But the ones that are, are even more bland because it's the same match-ups OVER AND OVER again. I mean, how many times can John Cena wrestle Randy Orton before the shit becomes redundant? How many times can Vince McMahon completely ignore his roster for Cena, Orton, and whoever the returning legend is?
I'm gonna try to watch SmackDown this week. Hopefully, I won't miss it, and I'll see something that will make me come back. I also want to see Daniel Bryan, because GAF seems to love him...
What has turned me away for so long is the blandness of the wrestlers, and it seems nothing has changed. When I watched it (Attitude Era - Ruthless Aggression Era), there was diversity amongst the stable: Grapplers, Submissioners, High-flyers, Hardcore specialists, Strikers, etc. Now though, everyone wrestles the same, uses the same tactics, and uses some of the same gimmicks (R-Truth, for example, seems like Booker-T without the charisma). And those are the ones that AREN'T getting any push. But the ones that are, are even more bland because it's the same match-ups OVER AND OVER again. I mean, how many times can John Cena wrestle Randy Orton before the shit becomes redundant? How many times can Vince McMahon completely ignore his roster for Cena, Orton, and whoever the returning legend is?
I'm gonna try to watch SmackDown this week. Hopefully, I won't miss it, and I'll see something that will make me come back. I also want to see Daniel Bryan, because GAF seems to love him...
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Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Santino had neck surgery last week. He's out for a while.
Mark Henry is still selling Brock killing him. Same with Show.
Actually...was there a house show tonight?
He's already had that for over 200 days.
Yeah, it's very weird. His character has been pretty bland since he's had the title, to be honest, though.
Remember when Orton nearly raped Triple H's wife, and then they met at WM and the first thing they did was a basic pro wrestling lockup?
The more things change....
If you want characters, you need to watch NXT. It's all about characters and guys wrestling in character. The Wyatts, the only true characters on the roster that aren't hold overs from a different era like Taker/Kane, are straight from NXT. They were doing the same thing down there as they are on the main roster. And main roster guys get to show off more personality down there.
Heyman you called my wife a horrible mother and insulted my children.
Lets shake hands and do business.
Net_Wrecker
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lmao @ watching Smackdown.
Smackdown is where storyline progression goes to die. It's a nothing show. That is unless you enjoy TV matches and artificial crowd noise.
Dr Duncan Steel
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Yup, zero psychology involved. Felt like two dudes just trying to do the usual rounds like the house show matches they've been having for like, ever.
Remember when Kane and Daniel Bryan attacked everyone in the ring with chairs on Smackdown? That was fun.
Net_Wrecker
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Was that over 3 months ago? Because, if yes, IDK what you're talking about, Bryan and Kane were never friends.
It actually had LESS intensity than the majority of their matches. So weird. There was zero intensity or hatred in that match, when the whole thing was built on Cena being super pissed about what Orton did to his dad. I don't think that was even brought up during the match. In fact, I recall "traditional" and "classic style" being used to describe the match, which is the opposite of what it should have been. Should have been some crazy over booked gimmicky match with Cena trying to kill Orton. Like an inverse of Cena vs Umaga.
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Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
if you went from being WHC and/or WWE champ, why would you go fight over a lesser title?
The only people that pulled this off was
Jericho
JBL
Flair
and the murderer
All these guys that have been champ are just stuck in a bowl where they wait to be fed to Cena or Orton.
It was the episode where Edge came back for a night. That was over 15 months ago tho.
The only people that pulled this off was
Jericho
JBL
Flair
and the murderer
All these guys that have been champ are just stuck in a bowl where they wait to be fed to Cena or Orton.
It was the episode where Edge came back for a night. That was over 15 months ago tho.
Oh right. I guess it was a dream. I can't shake off the notion that Heyman hired Maddox though.
Y2J was so damn good on every title level. The IC champ meant something then.
This man will change everything.
Fixed
Shades of Batista.
I fucking hate Cena. YOUVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR LIKE 15 YEARS NOW!
Dr Duncan Steel
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Honestly, it's cause they fucking knew this whole thing was a mess. Even for professionals such as themselves.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Gotdammit, McNei1y
Now remember to stick to the regiment or those nasty "mind pictures" will keep coming back and ruin your time in the WWE Universe. You don't want mind pictures, they're bad for everyone.
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Stop making things up.
bean breath
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HHH. Kane. Booker T if you're counting WCW Championship. Rey. Dolph. Big Show. Christian. Miz. Sting if you count WCW stuff. Also Bret. Kurt. Swagger.
DBry is great, but if you're looking to rekindle a fascination with colorful WWE-style wrestling and a wide variety of characters, you owe it to yourself to check out NXT. Its where they train the new guys that show up on RAW out of nowhere. Free on Hulu and for the past year, it's been its own WWE-backed indie fed with some great matches including a 2013 MOTY contender (Zayn-vs-Cesaro 2-of-3 falls match). Seriously, check it out.
As for the current roster, sometimes it can get samey because the WWE likes matches centered around four or so moves with a finisher capstone, but decent wrestlers break out of that mold easily enough. Even subpar wrestlers can do well within the confines--their real problem is falling into a rut.
For specific stars (and I write this under the assumption that you're completely new to WWE's current roster) DBry does consistently good speedy, submission and striking-based work, Cesaro when given a chance in a singles match is technical gold, Brock Lesnar is the shoot beast who can look like he's legitimately fucking people up and it's glorious. Bray Wyatt can tell a story in the ring, Luke Harper/Sheamus are both good hoss types. Big E Langston has a similar style but with more of an emphasis on explosive moves all of a sudden. The Shield rock the three-man-tag matches, a convention that they basically kept going for a solid year just because they were so damned good at them. Kofi Kingston, Sincara and Rey Mysterio are all that same WWE-but-with-many-flips style that lacks substance because there's no flow to them. It's a style they're trying to fix and one of the NXT hopefuls, Adrian Neville* (AKA PAC), has a damned good hold on it at the moment.
There's a ton more, I just wanted to point out that for every Curtis Axel or John Cena, there's someone bringing something unique to the table.
*WWE has a problem naming people these days, and I think that plays a part in people thinking everyone's too samey. Gone are easy to understand named like Undertaker, Stone Cold, Mankind, or Kane. Now everyone has names that feel like they were pulled out of a phone book. Current names of people in development: Tyler Breeze, Adrian Neville, Corey Graves, Alexander Rusev, CJ Parker, Aiden English. Just try to guess personalities based on those names.
I missed this, beef you son of a bitch
UberTag
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Everything means something when Y2J is booked in a program with it at stake.
Heath Slater, Evan Bourne and Fandango have all had clean pinfall victories against Y2J.
The Intercontinental Championship was resurrected because Y2J wanted to establish himself as the greatest of all-time.
The problem is that once you remove Y2J from all of those equations, WWE Creative always takes a dump on everything he devoted himself to building.
It's like nobody else in the company "gets" what he tries to do as a returning veteran.
I fucking hate Cena. YOUVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR LIKE 15 YEARS NOW!
It looks like Cena is going for a higher spear sell. If Reigns caught him up there it would've looked really good. Like when Dolph would DDT Cena.
Evening Musuko
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I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think they expected the crowd to shit on them before the match even started.
Even if Cena decided to go Brock Lesnar on Orton, I don't think the crowd would have cared.
Khrysler Jerikho
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Just saw the Rumble. Those last few minutes was really depressing. Even in the past Rumbles where unpopular fan choices won the boos were insignificant.
Batista felt like he had this "why are they booing" look too.
One thing I wondered though: why Sandow stayed for a bit at ringside. Was he supposed to be a part of a spot which didn't push through?
As for Big E, I'd like him to face Rusev. Even if Bo is a perfect fit for the Honky Tonk role.
Batista felt like he had this "why are they booing" look too.
One thing I wondered though: why Sandow stayed for a bit at ringside. Was he supposed to be a part of a spot which didn't push through?
As for Big E, I'd like him to face Rusev. Even if Bo is a perfect fit for the Honky Tonk role.
I assume Sandow is getting repackaged soon. His promo before the Rumble, his quick elimination and reaction, and then not being on or mentioned on Raw makes me think he's probably going to be taken off TV for a while and given a tweaked gimmick. Probably more vicious or something. I wouldn't be surprised to not see him until after Mania.
bean breath
Member
You could see Lawler facepalming in the distance.
...possibly. If they'd gone that route, we might have gotten something other than the coloring book of wrestling matches. Biggest takeaway though is that it's apparent that the two top guys in the company just didn't care to tell the story in the ring at one of the Big 4.
Is Brock the only believable monster in WWE at this point?
Henry was close. Big E gets a lot of the monster spots. reigns, Kane, and it looks like Sheamus fill that roll.
Tyler Breeze and Aiden English are amazing names
bean breath
Member
What?
Frankman is gross.
So if Cena did beat Taker at Mania he'd be a heel for life, that's a great idea except he's never going heel.
Dark Ninja
Member
Nah they don't have time to waste on Sandow its over i bet they turn him into a commentator or interviewer
Khrysler Jerikho
Member
Sandow becomes the next Barrett?
If that means he gets to be the commentary partner for BNB then I can jump on it.
bean breath
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That dang old Daniel Bryan and his chants ruined the story! I think it's pretty clear that Orton isn't good at deal with crowds who aren't into what he's doing. It throws him off and he just gives up. Cena I think is used to it/likes it, but Orton doesn't react well to it.