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Oblivion · Dec 8, 2005

gconsole said:
What was capcom thinking ? :lol

Just so you know, RE4 pretty much bombed in all the other territories. And that's on top of that idiot from Capcom announcing the RE4 port before it was released.

monkeyrun · Dec 8, 2005

mckmas8808 said:
This is what I'm talking about.

and more than half of that number came from a new release game on a system with like 75% of the console market.

well, if you claim that's a tie, so be it :lol :lol

Donnie · Dec 8, 2005

RE4 for PS2 did suprisingly well in Japan. Still a failure so far worldwide though (selling less in two territories then RE4 GC sold in the US alone) at this point anyway, perhaps Europe can save the game (though RE4 GC sold 360,000 in Europe on launch so..).

cvxfreak · Dec 8, 2005

We'll see how it did on NPD...

My copy of bio4 still hasn't arrived yet.

*cries* ;_;

Jonnyram · Dec 8, 2005

CVXFREAK said:
My copy of bio4 still hasn't arrived yet.

You should have ordered it from a reliable supplier like me

cvxfreak · Dec 8, 2005

Jonnyram said:
You should have ordered it from a reliable supplier like me

With the replica?

Geez, I really wish I could get all of those.

jj984jj · Dec 8, 2005

jett said:
Holy crap Biohazard 4 was a massive hit. Nfans am cry.

There are GCNfans in Japan still?

GCNfans in NA and EU am laughing, it's so sad.

Frankfurter · Dec 8, 2005

Another really good week, hardware will skyrocket in the next weeks ^^

Slime Mori Mori is a bit disappointing, let's see if it has legs.

P90 · Dec 8, 2005

jett said:
Holy crap Biohazard 4 was a massive hit. Nfans am cry.

jett, why are most of your posts about Nintendo fans being sad? A bit of projection?

ioi · Dec 8, 2005

Looking back to 2001, Smash Bros Melee launched the same week as Animal Crossing and did the following numbers:

Code:

Super Smash Bros Melee	GC	Nintendo	26/11/01	354,750	354,750
Super Smash Bros Melee	GC	Nintendo	03/12/01	62,750	417,500
Super Smash Bros Melee	GC	Nintendo	10/12/01	54,000	471,500
Super Smash Bros Melee	GC	Nintendo	17/12/01	81,750	553,250
Super Smash Bros Melee	GC	Nintendo	24/12/01	151,250	704,500
Super Smash Bros Melee	GC	Nintendo	31/12/01	119,000	823,500
Super Smash Bros Melee	GC	Nintendo	07/01/02	112,750	936,250
Super Smash Bros Melee	GC	Nintendo	14/01/02	25,750	962,000
Super Smash Bros Melee	GC	Nintendo	21/01/02	20,000	982,000
Super Smash Bros Melee	GC	Nintendo	28/01/02	13,750	995,750

Source here (Everything and Nothing)

On it's way to 1.3m

Animal Crossing has actually had an even better start according to the same source (378k, the best non-Pokemon start since Zelda: Majora's Mask in 2000 I think- 393k- source ) and I think it'll actually do even better numbers over the holiday period (three weeks around 15th Dec - 5th Jan) and will hold well into the new year as well.

This is mainly due to the fact that the GC had a userbase of around 500k when Smash Bros came out (hence the huge drop-off to 63k in week 2) and sold about in-line with Smash Bros over the holiday period (about 1.4m by the end 28th Jan so a very very high attach ratio for the game- you can't really expect it to have sold any better).

The DS on the other hand has already sold about 4 million and probably more like 5 by the end of the holiday period so I don't think we'll see such a huge drop-off to 26k like Smash Bros did week ending 14th Jan.

Of course Mario Kart may have an effect (or more likely AC will have an effect on MK), but 1.5m for Animal Crossing total in Japan is not out of the question, and neither is 1.2-1.3m for Brain Training and 1.1m for Brain Training Gentle and Nintendogs at their current pace, so four million sellers in just over a year, and Mario Kart, Wario Ware, Super Mario 64 and Brain Training 2 all closing in...

To put into perspective, GC had one million seller:

Smash Bros Melee 1.33m

GBA had four:

Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire 5.5m
Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green 2.8m
Pokemon Emerald 1.7m
Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros 1.15m

(source)

Grug · Dec 8, 2005

Nintendo... a winner is you!

Juno · Dec 8, 2005

Nice to see Resident Evil 4 get off to a good start in the build-up to Christmas, it's by far my favourite game on the Gamecube. Here's hoping it does better in the US.

And where did that BS 70K number come from?!

marc^o^ · Dec 8, 2005

8 potential million sellers on DS already in Japan O_O
What next? Mario Bros, Final Fantasy, Mario Party, Brain Training 2 ?

ziran · Dec 8, 2005

very good re4 sales, far more in line with expectations.

amazing ds sales! psp also has very good sales.

ac approaching 500k is very impressive.

ioi said:
Of course Mario Kart may have an effect (or more likely AC will have an effect on MK), but 1.5m for Animal Crossing total in Japan is not out of the question, and neither is 1.2-1.3m for Brain Training and 1.1m for Brain Training Gentle and Nintendogs at their current pace, so four million sellers in just over a year, and Mario Kart, Wario Ware, Super Mario 64 and Brain Training 2 all closing in...

4 potential million sellers on ds within a year is incredible!

ioi · Dec 8, 2005

ziran said:
very good re4 sales, far more in line with expectations.

amazing ds sales! psp also has very good sales.

ac approaching 500k is very impressive.

4 potential million sellers on ds within a year is incredible!

Well Nintendogs and Brain Training are already confirmed. Animal Crossing is a cert, and Brain Training Gentle will sail past in the next month.

All "non-games" as well

ziran · Dec 8, 2005

ioi said:
All "non-games" as well

it's great to see something new and different become popular in such a big way

neo2046 · Dec 8, 2005

Famitsu's numbers are out (software only)

Code:

 1 NEW PS2 Biohazard 4                         234,917   234,917 
 2 2   NDS ANIMAL CROSSING                     142,869   478,294 
 3 NEW PSP Monster Hunter Portable             118,317   118,317 
 4 4   GBA Rockman EXE 6 (2 VERSIONS)           51,409   241,694 
 5 10  NDS TAMAGOTCHI                           47,349   449,304 
 6 NEW NDS SLIME MORIMORI DRAGON QUEST 2        43,995    43,995 
 7 5   GBA POKEMON FUSHIGI NO DUNGEON RED       42,468   221,774 
 8 NEW NDS Dragon Ball Z                        42,280    42,280 
 9 3   NDS POKEMON FUSHIGI NO DUNGEON BLUE      39,701   234,618 
10 11  NDS ADULT BRAIN Training DS              33,092   828,702 
11 NEW NGC SD Gundam GASHAPON WARS              30,018    30,018 
12 6   NDS DAREDEMO ASOBI TAIZEN                27,414   186,130 
13 17  NDS GENTLE EXERCISE TRAINING             24,055   707,519 
14 13  NGC NARUTO 4                             22,342   110,012 
15 12  PS2 RATCHET & CLANK 4th                  19,630   108,127 
16 --  NDS NINTENDOGS (3 VERSIONS)              19,059   806,560 
17 8   NGC MARIO PARTY 7                        18,765   149,253 
18 --  PS2 IKUSAGAMI                            17,051    71,191 
19 NEW NDS Pawapuru Kun Pocket 8                16,215    16,215 
20 1   PS2 GUNDAM SEED UNION vs Z.A.F.T.        16,081   392,133


Ratio (according to the Top 20 softwares)
NDS  436,029   43% 
PS2  287,679   29% 
PSP  118,317   12% 
GBA   93,877    9% 
NGC   71,125    7%

ziran · Dec 8, 2005

neo2046 said:
NDS 436,029 43%
PS2 287,679 29%
PSP 118,317 12%
GBA 93,877 9%
NGC 71,125 7%

:O

elostyle · Dec 8, 2005

15 / 20 O___O

Matt · Dec 8, 2005

NDS 436,029 43%

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!

Mashing · Dec 8, 2005

That's some PS2 like domination right there... insane.

I have to stop and think that the Revolution really has a chance to sell neck and neck with the PS3... but their different kinds of markets so I'm not sure. One thing is certain, Japan is in love with the DS.

Fuzzy · Dec 8, 2005

NDS 436,029 43%

That's more software in a week than the DS software has done in 6 of the first 12 months in the US.

Drakken · Dec 8, 2005

I hope some people weren't thinking 436,029 DSes were sold. :lol

Mashing · Dec 8, 2005

Well, I can't speak for the others but, no I didn't. I was speaking from a marketshare standpoint in software sales.

Fuzzy · Dec 8, 2005

Drakken said:
I hope some people weren't thinking 436,029 DSes were sold. :lol

I can guarantee a few thought that. :lol

ioi · Dec 8, 2005

neo2046 said:
Famitsu's numbers are out

Code:

NDS 436,029 43% PS2 287,679 29% PSP 118,317 12% GBA 93,877 9% NGC 71,125 7%

Take away the 234,917 for RE4 and you get 53k for PS2.

This is obviously based on the top 20 games shown there, so not the best comparison as the 20th place game is still doing 16k, but there are a lot more DS games just below that as well.

neo2046 · Dec 8, 2005

Drakken said:
I hope some people weren't thinking 436,029 DSes were sold. :lol

oh yes, thanks
need to edit the chart

NWO · Dec 8, 2005

Donnie said:
RE4 for PS2 did suprisingly well in Japan. Still a failure so far worldwide though (selling less in two territories then RE4 GC sold in the US alone) at this point anyway, perhaps Europe can save the game (though RE4 GC sold 360,000 in Europe on launch so..).

Izzy on Europe sales said:
It flopped - not as badly as say, Sonic Rush, but still... :-\

elostyle · Dec 8, 2005

PSP SW 118,317
PSP HW 89,000

:-/ either monster hunter sold to 75% new PSP owners or the japanese buy it without games.

Izzy · Dec 8, 2005

elostyle said:
PSP SW 118,317
PSP HW 89,000

:-/ either monster hunter sold to 75% new PSP owners or the japanese buy it without games.

There's a lot of PSP games outside of top 20 you know...and MH is the only game in the top 20.

Ratio (according to the Top 20 softwares)
PSP 118,317 12%

3 NEW PSP Monster Hunter Portable 118,317 118,317

elostyle · Dec 8, 2005

I missed that these was only top 20 games added up.

ioi · Dec 8, 2005

Izzy said:
There's a lot of PSP games outside of top 20 you know...and MH is the only game in the top 20.

Ratio (according to the Top 20 softwares)
PSP 118,317 12%

3 NEW PSP Monster Hunter Portable 118,317 118,317

Yeah I mentioned that above, although to be honest there's not an AWFUL lot more on PSP outside the top 20, from Dengeki top 50:

24 Brain Training ~13k
32 Everybody's Golf Portable (the Best) ~10k
34 Talkman ~9k
44 Harvest Moon ~6k

Another 38k, call it maybe another 60k or so with other games as well, still only 180k total software with 90k hardware sold?

DS must be about 600-700k on 170k hardware.

ioi · Dec 8, 2005

elostyle said:
I missed that these was only top 20 games added up.

....

ioi said:
This is obviously based on the top 20 games shown there.

elostyle · Dec 8, 2005

ioi said:
....

I apologize to you too kind sir.

It's still obvious that not many games get moved per psp though.

ioi · Dec 8, 2005

I don't know if anyone can translate the following, at the bottom of the thread:

http://www2.realint.com/cgi-bin/tarticles.cgi?ralva+1327

I think it's talking about software sales a year after release:

DS
1 Brain Training 828,702
2 nintendogs　806,560
3 Sawaru　800k
4 Mario 64DS　780k
5 Gentle Brain Training　707,519
6 Animal Crossing　478,294
7 Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon　456,392(Blue version 234,618)
8 Tamogotchi　449,304
9 Jump Super Stars 430k

PS2
1 Onimusha 770,525
2 Ridge Racer Ｖ　579,597
3 Gekkikutan Pro Baseball AT THE END OF THE CENTURY 1999　464,856
4 Tekken TAG TOURNAMENT　432,733
5 The Bouncer　325,217
6 Kessen　322,342
7 Mobile Suit Gundam Giren　313,695
8 DEAD OR ALIVE 2　304,974

GBA
1 Super Mario Advance　804,151
2 Mario Kart: Super Circuit　737,508
3 Super Mario Advance 2　642,795
4 Yugioh 5 Expert　399,253
5 Warioland 4　346,900
6 Golden Sun　338,097
7 F-Zero Advance　334,145

And hardware:

DS 3.8m
PS2 3.6m
GBA 4.9m

Combined

NDS Brain Training 828,702
NDS nintendogs　806,560
GBA Super Mario Advance　804,151
NDS Sawaru　800k
NDS Mario 64DS　780k
PS2 Onimusha 770,525
GBA Mario Kart: Super Circuit　737,508
NDS Gentle Brain Training　707,519
GBA Super Mario Advance 2　642,795
PS2 Ridge Racer Ｖ　579,597
NDS Animal Crossing　478,294
PS2 Gekkikutan Pro Baseball 1999　464,856
NDS Tamogotchi　449,304
PS2 Tekken Tag 432,733
NDS Jump Super Stars 430k
GBA Yugioh 5 Expert　399,253
GBA Warioland 4　346,900
GBA Golden Sun　338,097
GBA F-Zero Advance　334,145
PS2 The Bouncer　325,217
PS2 Kessen　322,342
PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam Giren　313,695
PS2 DEAD OR ALIVE 2　304,974

neo2046 · Dec 8, 2005

Hardware numbers (Nov 28 - Dec 4)

DS 176000
PSP 92000
PS2 32000
GC 6000
GBM 7000

PSP Fukufuku island 16000
PSP Harvest Moon ~Boy & Girl~ 11000
NDS Sonic Rush 5000
GC Harvest Moon World 4000+

mj1108 · Dec 8, 2005

neo2046 said:
Hardware numbers (Nov 28 - Dec 4)

DS 176000
PSP 92000
PS2 32000
GC 6000
GBM 7000

O.O

Next week will be absolutely nuts with Mario Kart numbers. DS over 200k next week for sure. Maybe even 250k.

sprsk · Dec 8, 2005

holy jebezus

AirBrian · Dec 8, 2005

neo2046 said:
Hardware numbers (Nov 28 - Dec 4)

DS 176000
PSP 92000
PS2 32000
GC 6000
GBM 7000

PSP Fukufuku island 16000
PSP Harvest Moon ~Boy & Girl~ 11000
NDS Sonic Rush 5000
GC Harvest Moon World 4000+

Those are just nuts!

ioi · Dec 8, 2005

neo2046 said:
Hardware numbers (Nov 28 - Dec 4)

DS 176000
PSP 92000
PS2 32000
GC 6000
GBM 7000

PSP Fukufuku island 16000
PSP Harvest Moon ~Boy & Girl~ 11000
NDS Sonic Rush 5000
GC Harvest Moon World 4000+

I really am speechless!

dkeane · Dec 8, 2005

neo2046 said:
Hardware numbers (Nov 28 - Dec 4)

DS 176000
PSP 92000
PS2 32000
GC 6000
GBM 7000

PSP Fukufuku island 16000
PSP Harvest Moon ~Boy & Girl~ 11000
NDS Sonic Rush 5000
GC Harvest Moon World 4000+

Are GBA numbers added into those Micro numbers?

Meier · Dec 8, 2005

Boy, Mario Party 7's sales have *seriously* fallen off. I know it usually has solid legs and bounces back (should sell until late January), but that's a disappointment for Nintendo to be sure. I wonder if they'll try a DS version of it'? The GBA version didnt do anything spectacular in terms of sales (or reviews), but the stylus and mic + online could be neat for a DS version.

Chibbi Brady · Dec 8, 2005

Those DS and PSP numbers are fantastic, normally it's around Dec 15 before we see an upswing in numbers. Judging by the low numbers of the other machines I'd say the increase is more to do with games booasting the hardware, namely AC and MHP. Great to see.

John Harker · Dec 8, 2005

Meier said:
Boy, Mario Party 7's sales have *seriously* fallen off. I know it usually has solid legs and bounces back (should sell until late January), but that's a disappointment for Nintendo to be sure. I wonder if they'll try a DS version of it'? The GBA version didnt do anything spectacular in terms of sales (or reviews), but the stylus and mic + online could be neat for a DS version.

Imagine it was online?!!
Hey, it fits the 4 player model...

However, getting 4 people to stay connected for like, an hour or more... yeaaa, so not gonna happen.

PhoenixDark · Dec 8, 2005

neo2046 said:
Hardware numbers (Nov 28 - Dec 4)

DS 176000
PSP 92000
PS2 32000
GC 6000
GBM 7000

PSP Fukufuku island 16000
PSP Harvest Moon ~Boy & Girl~ 11000
NDS Sonic Rush 5000
GC Harvest Moon World 4000+

OH SNAP!

Amazing DS numbers. Aren't those higher than last weeks numbers?!?

PSP had a great week, it's just the DS had a freaking amazing week.

marc^o^ · Dec 8, 2005

When is Mario Kart unleashed? Edit: It seems it was today. Next week numbers should be phenomenal. Spectacular. What is the most climax word we could use to describe it?

Forgotten Ancient · Dec 8, 2005

marc^o^ said:
When is Mario Kart unleashed? Edit: It seems it was today. Next week numbers should be phenomenal. Spectacular. What is the most climax word we could use to describe it?

It will make you say WOW? Sorry...I couldn't resist.

norinrad21 · Dec 8, 2005

Jeez come next week the DS will crush everything

PhoenixDark · Dec 8, 2005

norinrad21 said:
Jeez come next week the DS will crush everything and peace will reign throughout Japan

Fixed.

NINTENJUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED

neo2046 · Dec 8, 2005

something I forget to mention
the hardware sales numbers are credible
but I am not sure the numbers are depended on which chart figure that guy provides
there may be some difference when you see the media create numbers later today

marc^o^ said:
When is Mario Kart unleashed? Edit: It seems it was today.

yes, today (Dec 8)

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