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Japan charts: Media Create 28 Nov - 4 Dec

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marc^o^

Nintendo's Pro Bono PR Firm
Best iteration of a beloved franchise relased in december on the hottest console with a great advertising? Mario Kart could do +2millions in Japan.
 
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ioi

Banned
marc^o^ said:
Best iteration of a beloved franchise relased in december on the hottest console with a great advertising? Mario Kart could do +2millions in Japan.
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Well I've already said Animal Crossing is on for 1.5m so it's not totally out of the question... the only thing is that most of the "traditional" games have struggled so far compared to Nintendogs, Brain Training and so on.

I really wanna know what "amazing" means, it must be more than 150k surely, but just how much more?
 
I

ioi

Banned
wazoo said:
what was his comment for Animal Crossing ??
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Well we had 250k in first two days (prob something like 200k day 1, 50k day 2) and something like 350k in the first 5 (depending on who you read).

So MK looks like being at least on par, any more than 200k on day 1 would be enormous, don't forget that as I said earlier in the thread Animal Crossing has had the biggest first week for a non-Pokemon Nintendo game since 2000, so better than any GC game and any other GBA game. And it looks like MK will do even better!!
 
I

ioi

Banned
+Aliken+ said:
I thought worse.
So 200k is a bit less.
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200k is less than what?

These are first week sales, so first 2-3 days generally, and Mario Kart games have enormous legs:

Code: 
Mario Kart 64 N64 Nintendo 16/12/96 328,750 328,750 
Mario Kart 64 N64 Nintendo 23/12/96 394,750 723,500 
Mario Kart 64 N64 Nintendo 30/12/96 220,500 944,000 
Mario Kart 64 N64 Nintendo 06/01/97 183,750 1,127,750 
Mario Kart 64 N64 Nintendo 13/01/97 69,500 1,197,250 
Mario Kart 64 N64 Nintendo 20/01/97 42,500 1,239,750 
Mario Kart 64 N64 Nintendo 27/01/97 27,250 1,267,000 
......
Mario Kart 64 N64 Nintendo 16/09/02 250 2,219,500

Code: 
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo 23/07/01 205,250 205,250 
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo 30/07/01 91,250 296,500 
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo 06/08/01 50,250 346,750 
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo 13/08/01 47,750 394,500 
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo 20/08/01 53,750 448,250 
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo 27/08/01 29,750 478,000 
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo 03/09/01 21,750 499,750 
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo 10/09/01 13,500 513,250 
......
Mario Kart: Super Circuit GBA Nintendo 25/10/04 250 898,000

Code: 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 10/11/03 201,000 201,000 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 17/11/03 73,500 274,500 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 24/11/03 42,750 317,250 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 01/12/03 41,250 358,500 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 08/12/03 33,750 392,250 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 15/12/03 40,500 432,750 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 22/12/03 66,250 499,000 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 29/12/03 100,250 599,250 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 05/01/04 110,000 709,250 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 12/01/04 28,750 738,000 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 19/01/04 16,000 754,000 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 26/01/04 10,750 764,750 
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 02/02/04 8,250 773,000 
........
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! GC Nintendo 14/03/05 500 873,500

I guess the closest in terms of release week was Mario Kart 64 which did 2.24m in 1996 after some huge sales first 3-4 weeks and very long legs (still sold well into 2000).
 
C

Chibbi Brady

Member
I'd predict over 350k for MK, don't write off Mushi yet either. All these titles released around now will get quite a boost over the next few weeks, so Mushi and Slime might end up doing very well in the end.
 
F

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
Chibbi Brady said:
I'd predict over 350k for MK, don't write off Mushi yet either. All these titles released around now will get quite a boost over the next few weeks, so Mushi and Slime might end up doing very well in the end.
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I don't think we'll have to wait a few weeks, it'll get a boost on Saturday and Sunday like all Nintendo platform titles.
 
neo2046

neo2046

Member
I forget to write Sinobi's comment about X360

he says only around 20% of the shippment have been resevered (# of pre-order / total of shippment = 0.2)
while DOA4 has been delayed
sales of X360 in Japan will be started slowly and the situation is not good
 
C

Culex

Banned
neo2046 said:
I forget to write Sinobi's comment about X360

he says only around 20% of the shippment have been resevered (# of pre-order / total of shippment = 0.2)
while DOA4 has been delayed
sales of X360 in Japan will be started slowly and the situation is not good
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What was the total shipment? 100,000?
 
E

elostyle

Never forget! I'm Dumb!
marc^o^ said:
160k is not amazing!
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For 1 day? After _that_ many copies of animal crossing had been sold not long ago? People can only buy so many games at a time, you know :)
 
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ioi

Banned
elostyle said:
For 1 day? After _that_ many copies of animal crossing had been sold not long ago? People can only buy so many games at a time, you know :)
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It's great, but not amazing, will prob be around 250-300k for the week then.
 
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marvelharvey

Member
You have to remember that this was released on a thursday. In Japan, thursdays are officially non-easter days. So, the sales will spike up to 350k once the friday data comes in.
 
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Sunski

Member
I predict a 400k opening week of sales for MK:DS.

160k Thursday
120k Friday
90k Saturday
30k Rest of the week
 
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thestopsign

Member
Sunski said:
I predict a 400k opening week of sales for MK:DS.

160k Thursday
120k Friday
90k Saturday
30k Rest of the week
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Sorry bud, sales are Sunday through the next Saturday. So Mario Kart just gets 3 days of sales. Also you are overestimating. The most I expect to see is 260k. With Mushiking and Animal Crossing around it selling well that looks tremendous. As the DS has a smaller userbase than the PS2 and will probably beat it out in software sales this month.
 
F

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
Stopsign said:
Sorry bud, sales are Sunday through the next Saturday. So Mario Kart just gets 3 days of sales. Also you are overestimating. The most I expect to see is 260k. With Mushiking and Animal Crossing around it selling well that looks tremendous. As the DS has a smaller userbase than the PS2 and will probably beat it out in software sales this month.
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If you're going to try and correct someone I suggest you know what you're talking about. There's a reason this thread is titled "Japan charts: Media Create 28 Nov - 4 Dec" (Monday-Sunday).
 
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Sunski

Member
Well ok then, take my 30k off. 360k in sales my prediction. Mushi was slated in reviews and they all bought the GBA edition so 60k for that. Animal Crossing will do 90k.
 
R

Rogerkiller

Member
sales

1. Nintendo DS 176.958 (2.455.449)
2. PSP 92.121 (1.746.545)
3. PlayStation 2 32.042 (1.691.490)
4. Game Boy Micro 7.911 (361.835)
5. Game Boy Advance SP 6.797 (614.916)
6. GameCube 6.494 (193.894
7. Game Boy Advance 386 (23.015)
8. Xbox 149 (11.408)


Source
 
H

heidern

Junior Member
jett said:
100k for a game that cost 20 million? BOMBA, YES!! Die Sega, you fuckers.
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That means for every copy of the game sold so far, $200 was spent on development. This game has a long way to go if it is to break even.
 
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thestopsign

Member
Fuzzy said:
If you're going to try and correct someone I suggest you know what you're talking about. There's a reason this thread is titled "Japan charts: Media Create 28 Nov - 4 Dec" (Monday-Sunday).
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Weird I always thought that the weeks were from Sunday to Saturday. Maybe that is just in America.
 
G

Gahiggidy

My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
jett said:
DS has completely replaced the GBA in Japan...I wonder why that didn't happen overseas?
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I dunno. My guess is that in JPN the DS is better percieved as an "upgrade" to the GBA as its backwards compatable. Not sure that is as easily understood in America.
 
B

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
jett said:
DS has completely replaced the GBA in Japan...I wonder why that didn't happen overseas?
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$99. Japanese and Europeans generally don't abide by the "sweet spot" pricing like americans do. You want the DS to replace the GBA, drop its price to $99.

The thing is.... Nintendo knows this. However I guarantee they saw much higher profit margins off of those ~800K GBAs sold than they did off of those ~400K DSes. My guess is DS will be $99 by next summer at the latest.
 
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Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Mario Kart DS - amazing!
Rogue Galaxy - 150k sold on first day (300k shippment)
Ryu ga Gotoku - no problem for 100k in one week
Sengoku Musou PSP - oh no
Metal Gear Ac!d 2 - oh no
Mushiking DS - oh no
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Damn it! I want numbers, not descriptions! And looks like poor Mushiking bombed because of Mario Kart :(.
 
E

Error

Jealous of the Glory that is Johnny Depp
borghe said:
$99. Japanese and Europeans generally don't abide by the "sweet spot" pricing like americans do. You want the DS to replace the GBA, drop its price to $99.

The thing is.... Nintendo knows this. However I guarantee they saw much higher profit margins off of those ~800K GBAs sold than they did off of those ~400K DSes. My guess is DS will be $99 by next summer at the latest.
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I say a redesign DS with a $99 price tag(doubt they'll launch DS SP at this price though) with Pokemon Pearl as the game launching with the redesign will pretty much confirmed a GBA->DS transition
 
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Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Random question, just have to know. How much did Kingdom Hearts sell in Japan?
 
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cvxfreak

Member
Oblivion said:
Random question, just have to know. How much did Kingdom Hearts sell in Japan?
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KH, if I remember correctly, sold 800K and the Final Mix version sold 350K. They're probably much higher now thanks to re-releases.
 
B

BorkBork

The Legend of BorkBork: BorkBorkity Borking
Error2k4 said:
I say a redesign DS with a $99 price tag(doubt they'll launch DS SP at this price though) with Pokemon Pearl as the game launching with the redesign will pretty much confirmed a GBA->DS transition
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If you look at Nintendo's recent pricing strategies, I doubt that the redesigned DS will go for $99. More likely they will introduce DS SP at a higher price, and drop the DS old model to $99. As for Pokemon launching with the redesign, that would be pretty killer.
 
H

Hero

Member
borghe said:
$99. Japanese and Europeans generally don't abide by the "sweet spot" pricing like americans do. You want the DS to replace the GBA, drop its price to $99.

The thing is.... Nintendo knows this. However I guarantee they saw much higher profit margins off of those ~800K GBAs sold than they did off of those ~400K DSes. My guess is DS will be $99 by next summer at the latest.
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Exactly. The 99.99 pricepoint is the ideal consumer value. Once the DS hits this, it'll dominate. I think this is because at 149.99 it wasn't regarded that much since it didn't have many games and you could get any of the current gen systems for that much. Now that it's 129.99 it's easier to swallow, but it's still not low enough for the soccer moms and stuff. First month of 99.99 DSes at retail Nintendo should sell a ridiculous amount. Hopefully they'll time it with Pokemon P/D.
 
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