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Jez Corden: Microsoft handheld will be a high-end, Steam deck like console

Draugoth

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Edit: lmao:

Clintizzle said:
Lmao.

I asked because everything that is in the OP was said by SneakerSO in post - https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...ccording-to-jez-corden.1678510/post-269916140

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The high-end unit is being positioned more as something for their core console userbase, which is drastically shrinking , and at a rate they couldn't have anticipated. It will be available in fewer regions and markets than ever before, and even distribution in regions where they do have a market (NA/UK) may take on a more direct purchase approach instead of going with the method of stocking it with traditional retailers, aka -you buy it directly from Microsoft. It helps keep costs down and gives them a much more solid margin, especially when they already know the market ceiling is so much lower. Very similar approach to how they retail their Surface line. Its really only intended for the folks who haven't minded the turd in the punchbowl for the last 15 years anyway"
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For the handheld, its being positioned more in the sort of vector that Steam Deck is in, but for the Windows Gaming/PC Desktop app, over being an extension of the Xbox-hardware ecosystem itself. What that means is, imagine it as a handheld windows PC, with a wrapper for the PC Microsoft Gaming app that most PC users utilize to buy Xbox games or use Game Pass on PC. What they are hoping for is that it, along with them extending this OS to other handheld PC makers like ASUS and some others, is that it'll strengthen the userbase and onboarding of users into the Xbox PC/WIndows Gaming Store experience, as they are beginning to view Steam and the growth of SteamOS as a potential threat to their dominance over gaming in the OS space.
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rm082e

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This is like Microsoft announcing they're going to make a laptop.

For any Xbox fans who might be interested in this, you can already choose from a variety of existing handheld PCs that are on the market right now and install the Xbox PC app. If this is their plan, it's nothing new, there's no reason to wait on their unit if you want this, and there's no incentive to buy the Xbox branded one over other competitors. Go check out the Legion Go, Asus ROG Ally, Steam Deck, etc.
 
Guardian Monkey

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😂 wtf. Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Good ficking luck with that. This already exist mostly. Great job MS! Here is windows you can play pc games with it but it’s a handheld from us. If it’s not a custom os and just a wrapper this is screwed. 😂 😂 😂
 
Punished Miku

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Deft Beck said:
I really doubt this is going to be all that appealing to people who probably would rather buy a Steam Deck or an existing competitor.
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Really no reason it couldn't hit 2nd place in handhelds if its well made. Don't those smaller hardware companies have like zero reliable customer service?
 
Sebastian1295

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At most i think this sells 10 million units and that's if the pricing is super low. I just don't see people buying this thing or playing it over the switch 2 in all honesty.
 
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Kdad

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Spending millions trying to get me to think that everything is an xbox including my fridge. How are they then going to convince me to buy their specific hardware.
 
Crayon

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rm082e said:
This is like Microsoft announcing they're going to make a laptop.

For any Xbox fans who might be interested in this, you can already choose from a variety of existing handheld PCs that are on the market right now and install the Xbox PC app. If this is their plan, it's nothing new, there's no reason to wait on their unit if you want this, and there's no incentive to buy the Xbox branded one over other competitors. Go check out the Legion Go, Asus ROG Ally, Steam Deck, etc.
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Loyalty. Pride. Silly, but at the same time, fine. We're all just consuming corpo product, here. Going ride or die with a brand is a weird aspect of enjoying consumerism, but no weirder than preordering a digital game out of pure hype.

Hari Seldon said:
I'm curious if they will allow steam on this or not.
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They are already trapped. A pc handheld that blocks steam might as well be a brick. And one with steam will be mostly used for steam no matter how hard it tries to push another store.

If ms is trying to react to steamos, they are not doing it in a timely way. Steamos being in consumers hands, though it's not in any number to threated windows, is a point of no return. Steam has escaped the need for any particular os or api. Once they have good arm translation baked in proton-style, it's on like donkey kong. Any attempt to undermine steam on windows just makes windows worse and drives more people to the alternative. If it's not too late for ms to muscle in on steam, it's very very close.
 
Parazels

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Somehow, my intuition tells me, that SteamOS is better ready for handhelds, than... What does Microsoft offer for handhelds?
 
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BennyBlanco

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Only way this will move units is if it’s heavily subsidized, and you have to ask yourself why they would do that.

If it can run Steam games, everyone will just use it for that which gets MS nowhere. If it can’t run Steam games and is just a walled garden device tied to their terrible PC store, then it’s DOA.

Day late and dollar short.
 
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I assume how you can set Steam to start at startup and start in big picture mode, this is how this handheld windows PC will be. I wonder if they would have the pull to get general windows to allow users to select a launcher like on Android or desktop Linux. On Android you can install Pixel Launcher, Microsoft Launcher, Nova Launcher, etc. There's gaming ones like Beacon Launcher. On Linux, you can install a bunch of desktop environments side by side and set on as a default and usually on the login screen, there's a dropdown to select which you want. It'd be more ideal than booting into the full blown windows desktop and then you see an Xbox splash wind that eventually loads you into a full screen application. I'm not betting on that but it'd be the ideal way.I don't know if Windows has improved on this front yet, being able to put the device into standby/sleep and then turn on and the game is good to go. Standard on consoles. Works on Linux. Don't know how well it works on Windows anymore. And the worse thing on Windows with gaming handhelds is when you set a TDP limit sub-10w. Linux you'll play Hades set to 4w and get 5-6 hours playing Hades. Windows, if you set your handheld to power limit to 4w for the CPU/GPU, stutterfest in any game. Slow and stuttery just navigating Steam big picture mode at 4w on Windows compared to Linux
 
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Bernardougf

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I really dont see the appeal in hand consoles... I go from work to my house... in my house I sit and play on my tv ... its good for traveling though.. but than again when traveling Im usually entertained by other things...

I can assume people prefer to play this hand consoles even at their homes ... to each their own I guess.
 
ChorizoPicozo

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I'm just going to say this:

Does it make sense for Xbox as a publisher to make another console (even if it's something like the Surface laptops or Steam Deck)? No.
having additional SKUs would make development more complicated and costly, adding unnecessary hurdles that Xbox really doesn't need now. if they intend to maximize revenue from software, adding more platforms would be counterproductive.

Does it make sense for Xbox as MS´s Gaming Division to have its own console?...Yep.
So I understand this pursuit, but as always with MS, it is at odds with their current situation. Buying this kind of High End "console" would be retarded IF by the same price point, you could buy a Mid High-End GPU (´70s series). As for a Handheld, that market is already too crowded, and if Sony makes one to, well...what can I tell you? Play Station, Steam, and Nintendo. Thats gaming for you moving forward.
 
Bry0

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Bernardougf said:
I really dont see the appeal in hand consoles... I go from work to my house... in my house I sit and play on my tv ... its good for traveling though.. but than again when traveling Im usually entertained by other things...

I can assume people prefer to play this hand consoles even at their homes ... to each their own I guess.
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I like to use my deck in bed, especially if I’m sick. Sometimes out by the pool, sometimes on the couch, I brought on a trip and gamed with some friends. I strongly prefer MacBooks over windows laptops so it fills that role. Some gaming laptops are better than others, but I can’t say I’ve ever owned one that didnt feel compromised in some way. The deck (oled particularly) actually gives significantly longer game time on battery than any laptop I’ve had too.
 
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ZehDon

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So, reads like it's not going to be a proper handheld Xbox after all, and a straight handheld PC. That's disappointing to read, and further signals the death of the Xbox brand. Depending on cost and when it launches, it may be a nice spec upgrade on the Steam Deck, but Windows has a lot of bloat and needs a lot of optimisation for these handheld devices.
 
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