Joe Montana Football 16
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Rockstar Beaver
Banned
If this game is true and on the Xbox One and PC, I will double dip!
LegalEagleMike
Member
well they need a kick in the ass so that they will actually add features each year rather than removing them.
I agree.
Hugh Swank
Member
Allforce
Member
But not pissed enough that they'd just stop making Madden, or even considering not releasing it for 360/XBO. A bump in the road for them, which could even lead to them innovating a bit. I like Madden 15, trust me, it's the best Madden game in years. But it's still MADDEN in every sense of the word. They've rested on their laurels for 10 years now, maybe this news (if it's true) could light a fire under their ass.
I never said they would stop making it for xbone.
But they definitely would lose atleast a good 300-400k of sales. Especially if the game turns out good.
Birgitte2004
Member
You say John Madden hasn't been involved in the NFL in "like a decade", it's been 2 decades since Joe Montana was.
I'd venture a guess to say that if these rumors are true, it will actually be hurt by the "Joe Montana" label, not helped. If it really wants to seriously compete with Madden, they probably need someone newer.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I can tell you right now if this game is true like the rumors say. It will sell a GOOD amount of consoles if you play madden.
Madden is at the point where every year there should be some drastic increases. The graphics could be 10 fold! Especially for Xbox One/PS4 ea had been slipping.. The game still looks like a up-rezzed 360 madden. Add that to the list of problems this game could fix with its eyes closed that ea refuses to fix.
-Lack of penalties
-Janky animation/engine
-Lack of likenesses
-Minimal improvement on franchise year after year
-Scripted gameplay
-DB/WR interactions animations, just plain terrible and head scratchers 95% of the time.
-No real weather options (only snow, rain, sunny or overcast)
-Commentary consistently SHIT year after year
-Presentation SHIT year after year (Multiple and VARIOUS stats never shown, talked about in game. Halftime show a fucking joke.
-Terrible ball physics, throwing animation in relation to actually throwing the ball is just fucked uo
-Fans in the stadium. Why every fan a 35 year old white or black male? No women no children no inbetween.
-Lack of physical characteristics/animations according to position
-Ratings mean What?
-Zone defense bad
-Man defense bad
-Defense is bad!
-Run blocking bad
-Players seem to lack football IQ.
-Lack of player control
I could go on forever..
SyenceLabb
Member
plz be true, so glad I got an Xbox one last week, and if the July date is true they will beat Madden to the market.
Myplayer store mode yesss plz, Madden player mode is a joke
An NFL-licensed football game that isn't Madden will sell on virtue of being "Not Madden." EDIT: Not "will sell on a mass scale", but "will sell to the niche crowd that does nothing but bash Madden constantly." If the game is good, obviously it will find a larger crowd - but those people are buying sight unseen, regardless.
There should be competition in the market, it makes better options for everyone around (in theory.)
All that being said, don't take those posts from Operation Sports to mean too much. That place gets a little... crazy... when it comes to anything "OMG NOT MADDEN." It's been that way for years and years there.
There should be competition in the market, it makes better options for everyone around (in theory.)
All that being said, don't take those posts from Operation Sports to mean too much. That place gets a little... crazy... when it comes to anything "OMG NOT MADDEN." It's been that way for years and years there.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Is there really evidence that the NFL/EA deal has some first party clause or is everyone assuming that's the case because that's how the MLB deal was structured?
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
source? i don't believe that's true
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
tbh all it needs to do is look prettier than Madden and get onto shelves first and it will shift a decent number of copies if MS get behind it marketing wise.
If they were smart they'd slash 10-15 bucks off the RRP too.
This is what I want to know because this is the first I've ever heard of it with regards to the NFL licence.
LyleLanley
Banned
A quick Google search hasn't cleared anything up, it pretty much just returns a bunch of forum posts of people claiming that there is such a thing. I assume if it was real we would've seen someone try and take a stab at it.
DizzyCaffeine
Member
I love Madden 15 and still play it regularly...but I would definitely buy a new Joe Montana football game AND Madden 16. I don't think the existence of both will necessarily cannibalize sales.
NowhereFaded
Member
Outstanding!!
Iced_Eagle
Member
If they're making it for Windows 10, and it actually is being published by MS, I hope they would do cross-buy, so you get both versions at once. Would be absolutely fantastic.
Follow the cord of the controller. Looks like it's a third party Playstation 2 controller. Definitely not a DS4. DS4 has the pretty distinct grips with the two types of plastic in it, and the controller in the tweet does not.
Steverulez
Member
If they want their cross-buy/play thing to succeed, they gotta lead from the front
SyenceLabb
Member
Just speculation mostly from what I've read. One thing to point out though - EA has been noticeably more coy about license exclusivity details with this latest contract extension with the NFL.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Looks like they were playing it on a PS2 Slim which would explain the controller but it looks like a crappy 3rd party pad
All it needs is a semi-competent online franchise mode and I'll buy it regardless of licence.
Definitely not gonna have the NFL license. Can tell by the jersey hes wearing and the fact EA wont come off it. So it would have to be a really fun and accurate sim to convince people to switch over from Madden. I'll bite as well if its not just a madden clone but brings something different to the table
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Yeah idk when or if it has always been like this but gameloft and others have been making NFL games along with madden on mobile every year.
The situation as I understand it is that EA had exclusive rights, including 1st party, but that deal has expired. It would seem that now anyone can make an NFL game on console. It's just so expensive to acquire the license to begin wih, coupled with development cost and the fact that Madden is so established that nobody has attempted to create a competitor thus far.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I think making a football simulation that relies on communities to create and run their own teams/leagues, and provide robust team/league/player editors can have success, just not at $60. I thought this was 2K's biggest mistake with All Pro. They spent all this money getting all these has-been football players to sign over their likenesses and had to charge full price.
SolidSnakex
Member
Yeah I took another look, I guess that must be the case.
Officerrob
Banned
An area of need across the board is a Madden alternative
Steverulez
Member
If MS are getting back into the sports arena... perhaps Baseball is next.
As of 2014, EA had the exclusive license for 'a couple more years'.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ive-license-from-nfl-for-a-couple-more-years/
MS deal with EA probably lasted 10 years... they made them jettison all their sports franchises
So this may be the starting point for bring back a good portion of their sports library.with that said... maybe Microsoft will bring back High Heat Baseball. They bought that game through auction iirc just before that EA Xbox Live nonsense
So many quality games MS knifed from their lineup... RalliSport, Amped, Top Spin... ugh. still pissed
They own the high heat license.
LyleLanley
Banned
If MS really was getting back into making sports games wouldn't a baseball game be the logical starting point instead of a competitor to one of their biggest partners most valuable franchises?
NFL Fever sold pretty darn well tho
Steverulez
Member
Focusing on their strengths? Who knows, this opportunity presented itself NFL so thats the logical starting point? Who knows
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
MS deal with EA probably lasted 10 years... they made them jettison all their sports franchises
with that said... maybe Microsoft will bring back High Heat Baseball. They bought that game through auction iirc just before that EA Xbox Live nonsense
So many quality games MS knifed from their lineup... RalliSport, Amped, Top Spin... ugh. still pissed
Top Spin was the shit
funkystudent
Member
IF MS was getting back into sports I dont think they would start with a NFL game and immediately tick off their BFF EA.
That post reads a bit like fanboy dribble anyway as well.
That post reads a bit like fanboy dribble anyway as well.
lol yep. I didn't know shit about tennis and played that game and had a blast. No idea if it was a good "simulation" of tennis though.
Barkley's Justice
Member
Bring this back too
Best baseball game I ever played.
Man...Those were really cool back in the day. Joe Montana 2: Sports Talk was great as well.
I was just thinking: Who made that Sports Talk technology? Some developer had to, right?
I looked it up. Wikipedia says:
Blue Sky Software of course did a lot of Sega's sports games, including Montana 2. Looks like they worked with ESS quite a bit:
http://gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/BlueSky_Software
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Same, I'd just hit the ball as hard as possible with loads of top spin regardless of the situation
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Even if all we get is an alternate football game without the license, as long as it was good and they make it easy to mod and share mods I think a lot of people would be fine with that.
Having a good PC version of a sports game would be enough of a win.
There is still a big Madden 08 community for pc, if something new comes to pc, there will be plenty of support.
perfectsil
Member
why can't there be a football game that let you design your own plays? If they are worried about exploits/OP plays then that shows how bad the game engine is. Front Page Sports Football on PC back in the day let you design your own plays, I learned all about football rules from that game.
FirmBizBws
Becomes baffled, curling up into a ball when confronted with three controller options.
Why was this bumped? Is it actually coming?
