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Joe Rogan's Podcast |OT|
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Nymphae
Banned
He was already wealthy and sitting pretty. I'd rather have say over what I can air on my own program than suck corporate dick for a few more shekels.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It doesn't really matter how wealthy one already is compared to double, tripling, or quadrupling your wealth overnight. That's very significant no matter how you slice it.
You'd turn down 100 mil that easily?
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Nymphae
Banned
If I was already wealthy and doing well, and running one of the most popular podcasts ever, yeah, you're damn right I'd turn down a pile of cash to be owned and controlled by someone else.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
What is the minimum net worth you'd have to be before you'd turn it down? $50 million? $10 million?
Nymphae
Banned
I would never take a deal that would limit my ability to talk about the things I wanted to talk about with the people I choose. Money isn't really all that important to me.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
How poor would you have to be to take it though? I can't imagine that you'd turn down a deal like that if you've only got $5,000 in your savings account.
Nymphae
Banned
Who cares
bender
What time is it?
Easy to say when you aren't in that situation. That's not just money, that's generational wealth. His kids, their kids and their kids after that will never have to worry about money.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Just curious. Everyone has a price, depending on their priorities and circumstances.
I don't think you have all the information required yet to make that judgement though.
Nymphae
Banned
Joe already had money, and I'd rather keep my credibility personally. He has to run all his guest by corporate now lol.
bender
What time is it?
And now he has enough money that his bloodline never has to worry about money again. He's earned the right to "sell out". Again, it's easy to say what you'd do until you are looking down that barrel of the gun.
Nymphae
Banned
lmao enjoy your corporate approved propaganda
bender
What time is it?
I'm not really a Joe Rogan fan but enjoy shouting hollow virtues from your high horse. LOLOLOLMAO
Am I doing it right?
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O-N-E
Member
Redban turned on beastiality porn in the middle of a Kill Tony episode and was showing it to the band who very clearly did not want to see it. Also he sounds like a dumbass most of the time.
Nymphae
Banned
I shared a news story and commented on it, you should probably chill. Sorry my opinion on the matter triggers you fellas, I thought this place valued freedom of speech but I guess it values selling out more.
Newly Vacant
Member
Whatever I guess. This is why the people you look up to shouldn't still be alive to disappoint you.
It really feels like Joe was silenced in the only way that would be effective for someone like him. Promise him hundreds of millions of dollars and slowly curate his guests. People have been trying to cancel Joe for years, and it never worked. Now, they don't have to. He's part of the corporate machine, and will either be compliant or silent.
It really feels like Joe was silenced in the only way that would be effective for someone like him. Promise him hundreds of millions of dollars and slowly curate his guests. People have been trying to cancel Joe for years, and it never worked. Now, they don't have to. He's part of the corporate machine, and will either be compliant or silent.
Tesseract
Banned
that's gross but i really don't give a shit, he's one of rogan's friends
you should help your friends, not abandon them to the abyss
O-N-E
Member
I don't think Redban is in any trouble with the social media mob. Just pointing out that he's a gross dumbass. I rarely watch Rogan episodes raw and I haven't seen much of the early stuff. Maybe he just doesn't like Redban anymore. It's not difficult to guess why.
Tesseract
Banned
that's fair enough, maybe they parted amicably (with some degree of neutrality)
nobody owes anyone anything
Newly Vacant
Member
I agree, but I agree with your previous sentiment more. Keep you friends, and support them. I had really hoped Joe would use his new platform to break down the censorship, not succumb to it.
Also, Alex Jones needs to be brought back to civilization. I'm tired of him wandering the wilderness.
Edit: spelling
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The Scrivener
Member
I see what you did there.
Wasn't that Steven Tyler (or maybe Joe Perry, or maybe even James Hetfield, or was it Billy Corgan, shit I can't remember) episode all about the dangers of the music industry and mainly Spotify?
I think that hamster Gaffer is probably right, it's just a glitch right now (perhaps).
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Rogan still has his constitutionally protected right to free speech.
Do you not think that with his 100 million, he is in a better position to "further the cause", so to speak, now that he has more resources at his disposal? I don't think you're looking at the big picture here. We live in a capitalist society. You either play the game or subsist on the fringes. This is the same reason why actual socialists have a hard time getting a foothold in the traditional power structures of mainstream America.
Things aren't that black and white.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That's actually not my position. That could be a possible explanation or it could be something else, or a mix of both.
My position is that we don't yet know enough information to say for sure what the reason for any of this is, so it's still all speculation at this point.
Tesseract
Banned
rogan wasn't subsisting off the fringes, he was the apex predator with plenty capital to spare
of course now he's in a position to use that fuck you money to fly out and host everyone under the sun, which opens doors to good and bad with reroutes along the way
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Nymphae
Banned
He built the most popular podcast in the world with no corporate help, he does not need corporations. He was a wealthy man already. BUT MORE IS BETTER! I don't really have much else to say about this. I think it was a retarded move that made his show worse.
The Scrivener
Member
Statues say hello?
Trump. Do it. (Then Joe "think about that" Biden.)
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I know - I wasn't applying that rule of thumb to Rogan's situation specifically. He played the game very well in the mainstream of alternative media and is the best at it. Generally speaking though, A black or white view that turns down all potential energy automatically concedes the opportunity to convert that energy (money) into useful work.
That rule of thumb when applied to Rogan, however, shows that he can subsist and thrive in the (relative, not absolute) fringes, but can also potentially make a big splash now that he has access to 100 million dollars. Lots of potential energy in a wad of cash that big. Enough to start the process of turning fringe into mainstream. Possibly.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Time will tell.
bender
What time is it?
I'm the other side of the pillow, daddy-o. I don't care about you at all. "This place" is not a monolith but rather a collection of voices with different thoughts and opinions. If you want a solitary voice, you'd be better off just conversing with yourself. OMG TRIGGERED
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Nymphae
Banned
He can't interview who he wants to anymore, and they can't even leave the old goddamn podcasts up! I don't see how it could possibly be the same or better.
Nymphae
Banned
Then stop quoting me retard lol
Tesseract
Banned
yeah, i'll agree with most of this
another thing to consider is the types of expectant censorship coming down the pipe of youtube v. spotify, he may be hedging his bets toward the latter (since the former has nipped his production time again)
maybe he's doing what he must to hold the line, sometimes that means dancing with the dark
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
You don't have enough information to know that (yet)
Nymphae
Banned
Yes them going back and culling old episodes certainly bodes well for future appearances from those guests
bender
What time is it?
But, but, but my freedom of speech.
I'd call you stupid, but I don't want to insult stupid people.
Nymphae
Banned
But, but, but my freedom of speech.
I'd call you stupid, but I don't want to insult stupid people.
I didn't say you can't or shouldn't be able to talk. Enjoy obsessively replying to someone you don't care about.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Do you mean spotify v. youtube? I can see that. With spotify, there's an actual contract with clearly laid out terms. Youtube has no contract, just a TOS that they can abuse at their whims if they feel you become a problem.
The "Corporate boogeyman" interpretation of Rogan's actions naively forgets that Google is one of the biggest corporations on planet Earth with its own agenda as well.
Tesseract
Banned
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That could be exactly what they're doing. But there are alternative explanations. We don't know for sure what is what yet. We can guess, but we need to be honest with ourselves that all it is is guessing at the moment.
bender
What time is it?
I'm sorry you think a conversation is obsessive. I assure you, I'll not think of about you again after this topic slips from mind which should take long given my advanced age.
Nymphae
Banned
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Nymphae
Banned
Seems like a fairly safe guess tbh, what else would the reason be
manfestival
Member
I had a hard time finding out how to pull the video(still haven't) from the desktop app of spotify. I tried using the browser base first but I kept getting 500 errors from it. What a mess.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Cool to see. Now get the Hodgetwins on Joe! Or Dave Chappelle. Or Norm Macdonald. lol