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John Henry Spooner sentenced to life in prison without parole.
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You can't really be this dense can you? So one random 11 year old was able to fend off attackers it means all of them could? The old man was double his size. He wasn't frail at all. It's a black 13 year old kid just accosted by a 75+ year old white man with a gun in his face. The last thing he thought would be that this psycho would shoot him.
Kids can do amazing things, but they can also do stupid things. Trying to attack someone pointing a gun at you is stupid 99% of the time.
I've probably seen dozens of videos where they get blasted in the face because the attacker got the trigger off and only one video where some white skaters got a gun away from some Hispanic gangbanger and beat the shit out of him.
Save the outrage for the old fuck that shot him, not the poor kid who couldn't do anything.
Unlike the Trayvon Martin case, this was investigated as soon as it happened.
The other one was too. Sanford crime scene was there gathering evidence that night.
Not sure why you think I'm outraged. I gave an unemotional opinion. I did not criticize the kid.
doctorcdcs
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Probably because in the heat of the moment, it's impossible to tell what someone is able to do, whether it be to stand up or to freeze up. It's easy to analyze the situation after the fact and point out potential errors that kid may or may not have done.
And then weeks of inaction by the Sanford police department.
If he did that his murderer would have walked even with video evidence.
Just in Florida.
evil solrac v3.0
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you got up today and typed this. all of this. way to go. way to go.
Lonewolf_92
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Armed with a loaded gun that he's pointing in his face.
And get HER shot, then himself. Brilliant!
childplease
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Senile old man.
I am totally not for gun control but when a man becomes old and senile they should by all means have their guns taken away.
I am totally not for gun control but when a man becomes old and senile they should by all means have their guns taken away.
So an 11 year old with a gun fighting off three dues is the same as a 13 year old with no gun being attacked by an old man with a gun?
Insert coins for logic.
Buddha Beam
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As someone who has had a weapon pulled on him during robberies, believe me your fantasies of going all batman on some creep are quite out of line. You 99% likely will freeze up and just try to survive the next 90 seconds or so.
victim blaming needs no logic.
I don't know what I would do in this situation if it played out but let's not pretend here. Any 13 year old could take any 76 year old. This pairing seems like a no brainer, old guy looks like a slight breeze could knock him over.
So you're saying that you'd bet on the 13 year old when the 76 year old has a gun pointed at him.
Am I in some bizarro fantasy-world right now?
Yeah it's really weird. Sure some kids retaliate and that's awesome if it saves them but most people (And I'm betting 99% of people in here) would freeze up and crap themselves or try to defuse the situation in a peaceful manner. Some people do fight back but you CAN NOT act like this kid didn't react the way most people would when you have a crazy man and a gun pointed at you and your family after peacefully putting the trash away.
Exterminieren
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Maybe if Spooner was intending to take him on in unarmed, hand to hand combat, with fair warning, preparation and coaching. Maybe.
That's not what happened here, what with the gun and everything.
gutter_trash
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rot in a jail
You don't see anything. It points a gun at him and he runs away; shot out of screen.
LiveFromKyoto
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Never heard of the Nazi Lowriders before. You just sent me on a pretty stomach-churning wikipedia trip. How do people live like that?
Yeah you're right, 13 year old kids are probably also capable of mounting and ground pounding those geezers right?
Forget the age, sure the man was old, but he was nearly a foot taller, and probably outweighed the kid and probably knew how to fight as well. This was just a boy. A boy putting out the garbage cans who is the accosted by a guy with a gun.
I don't know what kind of 13 year olds you know, or what kind of old people you know, but most probably are thinking about Pokemon and tumblr and not whether I could one punch that old guy.
No, you're on the internet, where people say they can outfight a gun.
Imagine someone saying that in real life. You wouldn't even respond, you'd probably look at everyone else in a sort of "let's just smile and nod and let the little psychopath live his fantasy out."
Forceatowulf
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Awesome news.
It's much harder to pull that wannabe Zimmerman shit outside the south, folks. Sorry.
It's much harder to pull that wannabe Zimmerman shit outside the south, folks. Sorry.
Mammoth Jones
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gutter_trash
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justice has been served
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The Autumn Wind
After reading the second sentence, I have to assume the first sentence was you describing yourself.
freenudemacusers
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lol are people really in here wondering why a 13 year old didn't go badass mode and snatch a gun from a guy pointing it right at him? Is this really happening?
Hale-XF11
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Damn, that video was really hard to watch. My heart was racing the whole time. That poor kid must have been absolutely terrified. I'm not sure how I would have reacted, as I've never had a gun pointed straight at me before by a crazy person standing right next to me, but I imagine that I'd be pretty damn scared out of my mind. I hate guns as it is. Even when I see a cop or someone else with one, I have this sort of reaction inside of me where I tense up a bit and get butterflies in my stomach. I just don't like being around them, regardless of how experienced, sane or responsible the person is who has it. If someone pointed one at me, I wouldn't be surprised if I completely froze up and had a panic attack.
It's only one person.
Two so far, and the night is still young.
freenudemacusers
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people = two
I thought it was just Coins.
I dunno.
There was a moment when the older man lowered his gun, and had it pointing more towards the home than the boy. At that point, the boy should have known that he could have grabbed the arm with the gun in both hands, tucked himself towards the old man's center of mass, twisted his body with a jerk of the man's arm, and hip tossed the old guy. When he lands, he'll be alert but confused, and while the man is still on the ground, the boy could then put him in a elbow-based arm bar, which will force his hands to relax, releasing the gun. He would then keep him immobilized by holding the arm bar yelling for help until his mother showed, or someone called the police.
I mean seriously, he's thirteen. Why WOULDN'T he think of something like this when he has a gun pointed at him? I would have yanked that gun out of his hand and slapped him for making my chores take longer than they should have.
There was a moment when the older man lowered his gun, and had it pointing more towards the home than the boy. At that point, the boy should have known that he could have grabbed the arm with the gun in both hands, tucked himself towards the old man's center of mass, twisted his body with a jerk of the man's arm, and hip tossed the old guy. When he lands, he'll be alert but confused, and while the man is still on the ground, the boy could then put him in a elbow-based arm bar, which will force his hands to relax, releasing the gun. He would then keep him immobilized by holding the arm bar yelling for help until his mother showed, or someone called the police.
I mean seriously, he's thirteen. Why WOULDN'T he think of something like this when he has a gun pointed at him? I would have yanked that gun out of his hand and slapped him for making my chores take longer than they should have.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
such a needless death.
I see Captain Hindsight has finally arrived at the scene of the crime.
Georgia?
Nah, movies help give people valuable tips and tricks on troublesome life scenarios, like a zombie apocalypse, or when your neighbor goes full retard, and points a gun at your chest when you're taking out the trash.
Sad but not surprising iin a country that allows guns to be sold and carried so easily and freely.
Serious question: Do US citizens hope that they can trust human beings not to be violent while allowing them to have guns?
I mean do they read news like this and say "Hopefully, one day people will stop pulling triggers and killing people randomly" or have they already gave up the idea but decided to keep the guns anyway?
Serious question: Do US citizens hope that they can trust human beings not to be violent while allowing them to have guns?
I mean do they read news like this and say "Hopefully, one day people will stop pulling triggers and killing people randomly" or have they already gave up the idea but decided to keep the guns anyway?
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