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[caliph95]

 

[JadedWriter]

WHAT THE FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING FUCKING FUCK AM I READING? So Diavolo is to suffer an eternity of dying in his head? That's what GER does...it mind rapes you?

 

[Matsukaze]

WHAT THE FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING FUCKING FUCK AM I READING? So Diavolo is to suffer an eternity of dying in his head? That's what GER does...it mind rapes you?

It's a bit more metaphysical. It's more like he's stuck in his own little pocket dimension of constant death loops while everyone else in the world goes about their business.

 

[cntr]

Giorno, the son of god, sent the devil...to hell.

 

[JadedWriter]

It's a bit more metaphysical. It's more like he's stuck in his own little pocket dimension of constant death loops while everyone else in the world goes about their business.

How does this even make sense? No wonder why people said GER can defeat Ultimate Kars. He'd just trap him in a pocket dimension and have him witness his own death constantly till he says fuck it and stops thinking.

 

[caliph95]

Well also the fact it has the powers of "no sell"

 

[JadedWriter]

Why is Fuego at the dead mans buffet? He's supposed to still be alive. Must be a flashback...

 

[cntr]

The idea is that King Crimson essentially erases actions (via erasing time) and skips directly to the results, so Gold Experience Requiem allows actions, but erases results from happening. So Diavolo is dying, but can't ever get to actual death.

Plus, as implied by Silver Chariot Requiem, GER has the power to control souls (specifically for GER, willpower), and thus stands. So he didn't just trap Diavolo in a death loop, he destroyed King Crimson and all of Diavolo's willpower.

...and since GER did that all on his own, Giorno doesn't know shit about what happened.

 

[JadedWriter]

The idea is that King Crimson essentially erases actions (via erasing time) and skips directly to the results, so Gold Experience Requiem allows actions, but erases results from happening. So Diavolo is dying, but can't ever get to actual death.

Plus, as implied by Silver Chariot Requiem, GER has the power to control souls (specifically for GER, willpower), and thus stands. So he didn't just trap Diavolo in a death loop, he destroyed King Crimson and all of Diavolo's willpower.

...and since GER did that all on his own, Giorno doesn't know shit about what happened.

And Part 6 is supposed to be more mind bending than this? I already need to lie down.

 

[caliph95]

Somewhere a

Spoiler

dark skinned priest and his brother

are laughing

 

[cntr]

oh, don't worry about that, lol

Part 5 isn't the bizarrest part, but it never gets so confusing and abstract again. Maaaaaybe Soft 'n Wet, but that's still straight-forward compared to Part 5.

 

[caliph95]

Part 7 (which probably why i like it so much) is the most straight forward while still "bizzare"

Spoiler

well besides some stuff with spin

 

[cntr]

SBR's a lot more subdued, but it's bizarre af once you start thinking about it

Spoiler

the book of mormon is canon in jojo

 

[Matsukaze]

Whitesnake >>>>>>>>> King Crimson

That is all.

 

[JadedWriter]

oh, don't worry about that, lol

Part 5 isn't the bizarrest part, but it never gets so confusing and abstract again. Maaaaaybe Soft 'n Wet, but that's still straight-forward compared to Part 5.

So pretty much Part 5 is Araki taking a magic puff puff while listening to Rush and Pink Floyd while writing and Part 6 is just more bat shit whacky stand hijinks?

 

[cntr]

So pretty much Part 5 is Araki taking a magic puff puff while listening to Rush and Pink Floyd while writing and Part 6 is just more bat shit whacky stand hijinks?

Pretty much. There's still some subtle stuff, but only in the sense that "you might forget about it". It never gets as mindbending weirdo thematic as VA.

Whitesnake >>>>>>>>> King Crimson

That is all.

Whitesnake, Killer Queen, and D4C are my favorite main villain stands.

 

[caliph95]

Whitesnake >>>>>>>>> King Crimson

That is all.

Spoiler

Priest

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mafia boss with mpd

 

[JadedWriter]

I'm not even sure who got the worse death deal anymore. Kira or Diavolo?

 

[caliph95]

Kira amusingly enough became a ghost detective IIRC in a spin off

 

[RecRoulette]

I'm not even sure who got the worse death deal anymore. Kira or Diavolo?

Diavolo is still dying as we speak.

 

[cntr]

Kira got a pretty karmic afterlife, but I think Jaded meant Kars.

Tough call. What's worse, infinite boredom or being killed endlessly?

 

[JadedWriter]

Kira got a pretty karmic afterlife, but I think Jaded meant Kars.

Tough call. What's worse, infinite boredom or being killed endlessly?

I honestly did mean Kira. Though I guess once the novelty of getting your head crushed by an ambulance wears off, it's pretty mundane. Kars got done dirty...would've actually one. Diavolo...fuck...that's a kill that even Kurama would be proud of.

Diavolo is still dying as we speak.

For all we know during one of his deaths Trish kills him.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Kira got a pretty karmic afterlife, but I think Jaded meant Kars.

Tough call. What's worse, infinite boredom or being killed endlessly?

Well

Kars has the fact that he might crash into a planet or be picked up by aliens one day.

So dying constantly is worse.

I honestly did mean Kira. Though I guess once the novelty of getting your head crushed by an ambulance wears off, it's pretty mundane. Kars got done dirty...would've actually one. Diavolo...fuck...that's a kill that even Kurama would be proud of.

For all we know during one of his deaths Trish kills him.

KURAMA FROM YU YU HAKUSHO

I LOVE KURAMA

HES SMART AND PRETTY AND RUTHLESS

 

[cntr]

Kira's afterlife is him never being able to get a peaceful and quiet life ever again, doomed to be forever lost and worried. It's pretty karmic.

still want to know how that girl with the balloon would've killed Diavolo

 

[RecRoulette]

Well

Kars has the fact that he might crash into a planet or be picked up by aliens one day.

So dying constantly is worse.

Still waiting for Kars (Rock People) or King Crimson (Higashikata stands) to show up in Jojolion

 

[Thud]

Diavolo is still dying as we speak.

Basically Kenshiro's you are already dead in a loop.

 

[JadedWriter]

KURAMA FROM YU YU HAKUSHO

I LOVE KURAMA

HES SMART AND PRETTY AND RUTHLESS

Yeah Diavolo's death makes me think that Araki read YYH, it's too similar in a way to the Elder Toguro death, except one's in the mind, the other is just literally in a death loop. Like Diavolo's playing COD, but he's forever being spawn camped.

 

[Matsukaze]

Still waiting for Kars (Rock People) or King Crimson (Higashikata stands) to show up in Jojolion

Remember when Karera Sakunami showed up and her debut was blinding Josuke with light? I seem to recall some speculation at the time, though obviously not nowadays.

 

[JadedWriter]

Star Platinum just got turned into a Stand CD...I think...I think this is too much Jojo for one day...

 

[cntr]

Remember when Karera Sakunami showed up and her debut was blinding Josuke with light? I seem to recall some speculation at the time, though obviously not nowadays.

Huh, really? That's a stretch.

 

[Matsukaze]

Huh, really? That's a stretch.

It was way early on, like first couple chapters with her. I think it was folks' desire to see a new Kars leading their hearts astray.

 

[cntr]

I kind of like the idea of those band members we saw during the Joshu chapter being Jojolion Pillar Men + Red Hot Chili Peppers.

totally baseless theory of course, but still

 

[caliph95]

Star Platinum just got turned into a Stand CD...I think...I think this is too much Jojo for one day...

There is never too much

 

[JadedWriter]

There is never too much

But my head hurts.

 

[cntr]

Jaded is Jodone for the day.

 

[JadedWriter]

Jaded is Jodone for the day.

After GER I couldn't even be bothered with the damn epilogue...dead dudes eating during a flashback? I'm out.

 

[cntr]

I think they haven't finished the last few chapters yet.

 

[JadedWriter]

It's not done yet? Holy shit. Please tell me I at least survived peak bat shit?

 

[cntr]

Yeah. There's only the wrap-up and then the Rolling Stones epilogue.

 

[sir_bumble_bee]

Anybody feel like VA was rushed at the end?

 

[cntr]

Yeah, it ended a bit fast.

I guess Araki was worn out, since he took that hiatus right after?

 

[JadedWriter]

Anybody feel like VA was rushed at the end?

Diavolo is such a half baked villain. He's got no swag to him outside of that one moment where he takes off his shirt.

 

[sir_bumble_bee]

I guess I was expecting more of an actual fight with Diavolo, I guess Araki wanted to try something different by having the race to the Stand Arrow being the climax moment of the story?

 

[cntr]

Diavolo's neat if you read between the lines too, but yeah he ranks in the lower half of the Jojo villain scale for me. I read part 5 mainly for the Gang, not him.

(King Crimson's face is the best tho.)

 

[Zonic]

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Note that while it's $10 cheaper than Rightstuf, you won't get the "word effects" deep purple cotton bandanna.

 

[sir_bumble_bee]

Diavolo is such a half baked villain. He's got no swag to him outside of that one moment where he takes off his shirt.

Funny choice of words, considering you still have Doppio in the equation, who can be considered Diovolo's alternet, unmatured self

 

[cntr]

 

[JadedWriter]

Funny choice of words, considering you still have Doppio in the equation, who can be considered Diovolo's alternet, unmatured self

And Doppio was KO'd for the final battle and almost got killed by an edge lord named Risotto Nero.

 

[Matsukaze]

And Doppio was KO'd for the final battle and almost got killed by an edge lord named Risotto Nero.

Edge lord? Nero's one of the most dangerous minor antagonists in the series.

 

[JadedWriter]

Edge lord? Nero's one of the most dangerous minor antagonists in the series.

I know. I was mostly using that term to poke fun at his stand ability. He almost beat the main villain. At least in a logical sense. Can't say the same for GER.