Journalism Is Dead.

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Any jackass on Twitter with a few spare seconds and 140 characters can affect an entire news cycle.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/did-...iring-30-minutes-of-hardcore-porn-last-night/

The fake "CNN Porn" story is the latest and most-damning example of the crisis journalism is facing.

"Fake news" and misinformation has long-lasting effects. Even when a story is corrected or retracted, most people never follow up on a story and continue to spread the misinformation to others who, in turn, will not fact-check and will continue the proliferation.

Credibility is taken for granted, no one even checks the source. Hell, most poeple get their news from Facebook and Reddit, cesspools of humanity that they are.

Even when provided with the facts, more and more people are choosing their truths and discrediting outlets that don't regularly conform to their worldview.

What should (or can) real journalists do to combat the wave of ignorance and slander? The fucking President-elect is out there calling all of our major news organizations liars, not to be trusted. On one hand, he is full of shit and trying to undermine the validity of reports about himself. On the other, he is kinda... right? I mean, as far as "not believing everything you read online" goes. Outlets are only too happy to post an inflammatory headline before being responsible about the information they are disseminating.

Then you have Anon. Anon is not held accountable for liable or bullshit, yet Anon is ceaseless in its attempts to undermine information. Smear campaigns are everywhere, all day, every day. No one can stop it because the number of people involved is staggering.

I don't know guys. Aside from being responsible for myself and doing my own research, I just don't know what can be done about any of this. One thing is for sure, I am really getting tired of telling my dad that he is insane.
 
People are no longer willing to listen to the media.

I write for a small newspaper that serve approximately 20,000 people and I get calls from angry Trump supporters claiming our paper is part of the liberal agenda and that our articles make him look bad. (Articles are from AP)

Last call I received ended with me hanging up the phone when a woman told me to hang myself for not reporting the real news about how good and caring Trump is.

It's dead, I'm leaving as soon as possible lmao
 

Context please?

They are talking about this

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Was wondering how long it'd take for someone to blame millenials.

Imagine someone ruining the planet and taking responsibility for it. There's a reason it's never mentioned in any scifi story.
 

Context please?

Raiden: Cut the crap! If you're immortal, why would you take away individual freedoms and censor the Net?
Rose: Jack, don't be silly.
Colonel: Don't you know that our plans have your interests -- not ours -- in mind?
Rose: Jack, listen carefully like a good boy!
Colonel: The mapping of the human genome was completed early this century.
As a result, the evolutionary log of the human race lay open to us.
Rose: We started with genetic engineering, and in the end, we succeeded in digitizing life itself.
Colonel: But there are things not covered by genetic information.
Human memories, ideas. Culture. History.
Rose: Genes don't contain any record of human history.
Colonel: Is it something that should not be passed on?
Should that information be left at the mercy of nature?
Rose: We've always kept records of our lives. Through words, pictures, symbols... from tablets to books...
But not all the information was inherited by later generations.
Colonel: A small percentage of the whole was selected and processed, then passed on. Not unlike genes, really.
Rose: That's what history is, Jack.
Colonel: But in the current, digitized world,
trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness.
Never fading, always accessible.
Rose: Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander...
Colonel: All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate.
Rose: It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution.
Colonel: Raiden, you seem to think that our plan is one of censorship.
Raiden: Are you telling me it's not!?
Rose: You're being silly! What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.
Raiden: Create context?
Colonel: The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards
development of convenient half-truths.
Just look at the strange juxtapositions of morality around you.
Rose: Billions spent on new weapons in order to humanely murder other humans.
Colonel: Rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims.
Rose: Although there are people suffering in poverty, huge donations are made to protect endangered species.
Everyone grows up being told the same thing.
Colonel: Be nice to other people.
Rose: But beat out the competition!
Colonel: "You're special." "Believe in yourself and you will succeed."
Rose: But it's obvious from the start that only a few can succeed...
Colonel: You exercise your right to "freedom" and this is the result.
All rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect each other from hurt.
The untested truths spun by different interests continue to churn and accumulate
in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems.
Rose: Everyone withdraws into their own small gated community, afraid of a larger forum.
They stay inside their little ponds,
leaking whatever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large.
Colonel: The different cardinal truths neither clash nor mesh.
No one is invalidated, but nobody is right.
Rose: Not even natural selection can take place here. The world is being engulfed in "truth."
Colonel: And this is the way the world ends. Not with a bang, but a whimper.
Rose: We're trying to stop that from happening.
Colonel: It's our responsibility as rulers.
Just as in genetics, unnecessary information and memory must be filtered out
to stimulate the evolution of the species.
Raiden: And you think you're qualified to decide what's necessary and not!?
Colonel: Absolutely. Who else could wade through the sea of garbage you people produce,
retrieve valuable truths and even interpret their meaning for later generations?
Rose: That's what it means to create context.
Raiden: I'll decide for myself what to believe and what to pass on!
Colonel: But is that even your own idea?
Rose: Or something Snake told you?
Raiden: Ahh
Colonel: That's the proof of your incompetence, right there.
You lack the qualifications to exercise free will.
Raiden: That's not true! I have the right --
Rose: Does something like a "self" exist inside of you?
Colonel: That which you call "self" serves as nothing more than a mask to cover your own being.
Rose: In this era of ready-made 'truths',
"self" is just something used to preserve those positive emotions that you occasionally feel...
Colonel: ...Another possibility is that "self" is a concept you conveniently borrowed under the logic
that it would endow you with some sense of strength...
Raiden: That's crap!
Colonel: Is it? Would you prefer that someone else tell you? Alright then. Explain it to him.
Rose: Jack, you're simply the best! And you got there all by yourself!
Raiden: Rrrr...
Colonel: Oh, what happened? Do you feel lost? Why not try a bit of soul-searching?
Rose: Don't think you'll find anything, though...
Colonel: Ironic that although "self" is something that you yourself fashioned,
every time something goes wrong, you turn around and place the blame on something else.
Rose: It's not my fault. It's not your fault.
Colonel: In denial, you simply resort to looking for another,
more convenient "truth" in order to make yourself feel better.
Rose: ...leaving behind in an instant the so-called "truth" you once embraced.
Colonel: Should someone like that be able to decide what is "truth"?
Rose: Should someone like you even have the right to decide?
Colonel: You've done nothing but abuse your freedom.
Rose: You don't deserve to be free!
Colonel: We're not the ones smothering the world. You are.
Rose: The individual is supposed to be weak. But far from powerless --
-- a single person has the potential to ruin the world.
Colonel: And the age of digitized communication has given even more power to the individual.
Too much power for an immature species.
Rose: Building a legacy involves figuring out what is wanted, and what needs to be done for that goal.
All this, you used to struggle with. Now, we think for you.
 
From the article,

And those weren’t the only news outlets: Complex. Fox News. Esquire. The Daily Caller. Red State. Yahoo. All writing about the same story.​

It's a super low-stakes goofball story that ran on what amount to a bunch of gossip rags (plus Fox News lol).

There's plenty of good and quality journalism available in the world. I'm inclined to take an angle more like "news consumers aren't very savvy" but like. Duh of course they aren't. That isn't some new phenomenon.
 
From the article,

And those weren’t the only news outlets: Complex. Fox News. Esquire. The Daily Caller. Red State. Yahoo. All writing about the same story.​

It's a super low-stakes goofball story that ran on what amount to a bunch of gossip rags (plus Fox News lol).

There's plenty of good and quality journalism available in the world. I'm inclined to take an angle more like "news consumers aren't very savvy" but like. Duh of course they aren't. That isn't some new phenomenon.

I don't believe in "low-stakes" journalism when your credibility is what's at stake.

uses journalism as proof journalism is dead

Doesn't understand what a figurative statement is.
 
That's bullshit.

This is a byproduct of blogs and social media. That is not tied to any one generation.

I'm pretty sure tabloid newspapers were popular long before social media happened, people always preferred to read about the latest scandal real or not over actual news. I can't even pretend I'm any different even if I try to follow actual news as well.

Social media just made the whole thing worse but I'm pretty sure sensational media reporting been a problem for longer then the internet been around. There is just more/easier scandals now.
 
Can we please ban any kojima talk in off topic?

And journalism has been pushed aside and some impostor has taken it's place for decades now.
 
I'm pretty sure tabloid newspapers were popular long before social media happened, people always preferred to read about the latest scandal real or not over actual news. I can't even pretend I'm any different even if I try to follow actual news as well.

Social media just made the whole thing worse but I'm pretty sure sensational media reporting been a problem for longer then the internet been around. There is just more/easier scandals now.

Most people knew a tabloid when they saw one. People can't even distinguish "sponsored content" from actual news anymore.
 
It's definitely worrying that the amount of misinformation that gets spread on social media is so high, and that without extremely diligent fact checking it can be very difficult to discern the truth.

And as the average person probably doesn't bother fact checking their information and data it's a huge problem.

The Trump campaign and #Leave were both run on significantly higher amounts of misinformation than their opposition, and the British media has huge influence with rags like TDM spreading hateful opinion and cleverly worded propaganda to twist the info and data to suit.

It is a worrying time to be alive in this context.

Sure, and I wish I had the army of fanboys defending said farts as high art like Kojima does.

But that's irrelevant to the thread.

So is your posturing, really
 
Journalism isn't entirely dead, but it will be soon enough. No one thinks its worth paying for, so everyone migrates towards ad revenue instead.
 
Traditional journalism is dying. Journalism itself isn't dead, and won't die. Journalism encompasses more than just major news stations - it can be local websites, video, etc.

There's a huge issue with false stories, but that's always been a constant issue when it comes to reporting and sourcing. If journalism can survive a period where it was a race to the bottom as people flat out made up stories to sell newspapers (yellow journalism), it can sure as shit survive a few fake news stories being thrown around.
 
Bad Journalism killed journalism, a bunch of fact checkers on a regular basis just rip to shreds the main media on my country, exposing their manipulation of facts and this happens because the main news outlets during the crisis were left at the mercy of the political powers and this happen with both right and left, but mostly with the right wing because one of the founders of the main right wing party over here is a media tycoon.
 
Journalism isn't entirely dead, but it will be soon enough. No one thinks its worth paying for, so everyone migrates towards ad revenue instead.

This is definitely a big part of it, but Joe Schmoe isn't doing this for ad revenue on social media.
 
Journalism isn't entirely dead, but it will be soon enough. No one thinks its worth paying for, so everyone migrates towards ad revenue instead.

A huge factor too. Click-bait pays more than real investigative journalism. Social media is making people lazy in terms of the effort they're willing to put in to reading these things.
 
That's bullshit.

This is a byproduct of blogs and social media. That is not tied to any one generation.

It's people choosing free news over a reputable source. Because they've been weaned on the idea that everything should be free.

You can get all indignant, but it's true. I've seen it in action.

I worked in newspapers for a spell while circulations and ad revenue plummeted. People who once chased the news began to chase readers. It didn't help because no one wanted to pay.

And I lived through it with some very popular game magazines. We produced a quality product each month, but lived on razor-thin margins. And we died when scans of the magazine were readily available before subscribers got their copies and the issues hit the newsstands.
 
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