Support NeoGAF

[soundwave05]

Are these Famitsu or Media Create numbers?

It doesn't really make sense, Biohazard 4 was at number 1 for a most of the week.

In Japan most games have their highest sales on the first day of release.

So if BH4 got outsold on day one, even if it outsold the other titles for the rest of the week, it doesn't neccessarily out do the other titles.

Its like if you have a movie and it opens at no.3 for the opening weekend, but then is no.1 for the weekdays ... it doesn't mean that movie has made more money simply because its spent more days at no.1. The opening weekend is where the bulk of movie tickets are sold.

 

[GDJustin]

I said it last week, and I'll say it this week:

It's gonna take Sony until fall 2005 to just MATCH Nintendo, let alone surpass them. With each PSP sold at a significant loss and each DS sold at a moderate profit, I think some people need to rethink what is a victory and what isn't.

It a nutshell, its taken a device thats two tech. generations ahead of a Nintendo offering to even think about having a CHANCE to knock Nintendo off their pedestal. By the time Sony is gearing up to finally start making some profit off the PSP, the GameBoy Next will be coming, and the technological advantage of the PSP ceases to exist.

 

[soundwave05]

I said it last week, and I'll say it this week:

It's gonna take Sony until fall 2005 to just MATCH Nintendo, let alone surpass them. With each PSP sold at a significant loss and each DS sold at a moderate profit, I think some people need to rethink what is a victory and what isn't.

It a nutshell, its taken a device thats two tech. generations ahead of a Nintendo offering to even think about having a CHANCE to knock Nintendo off their pedestal. By the time Sony is gearing up to finally start making some profit off the PSP, the GameBoy Next will be coming, and the technological advantage of the PSP ceases to exist.

That's true, but then again, how big of a headstart will the PSP have over the Game Boy Next?

Sometimes I think Nintendo should have have just hung onto the touchscreen idea and gone with a more powerful chipset instead of releasing the DS in between.

 

[SantaC]

That's true, but then again, how big of a headstart will the PSP have over the Game Boy Next?

Sometimes I think Nintendo should have have just hung onto the touchscreen idea and gone with a more powerful chipset instead of releasing the DS in between.

E3 is the answer to everything. The Revolution should decide Nintendo's fate.

 

[GDJustin]

I guess I don't see what all those in the PSP camp are so excited about, and why Nintendo fans feel so defensive about it.

The PSP absolutely BLOWS THE DS OUT OF THE WATER with its tech, screen, graphics, etc. They're hardly in the same stratosphere. Yet the systems are selling at roughly a 6:4 or 7:4 ratio because of Sony's inability to orchestrate a launch/post launch period.

 

[zylo]

By the time Sony is gearing up to finally start making some profit off the PSP, the GameBoy Next will be coming, and the technological advantage of the PSP ceases to exist.

If nintendo releses the next gameboy in 2006 consumers will probably be pissed since they bought a DS only 1 1/2 ago. Also I think most people are thinking that DS is the new gameboy. If the next gameboy comes out in 2007 or later they probably won't beat sony because it would already have a strong foothold in the market.

 

[SantaC]

I guess I don't see what all those in the PSP camp are so excited about, and why Nintendo fans feel so defensive about it.

The PSP absolutely BLOWS THE DS OUT OF THE WATER with its tech, screen, graphics, etc. They're hardly in the same stratosphere. Yet the systems are selling at roughly a 6:4 or 7:4 ratio because of Sony's inability to orchestrate a launch/post launch period.

You are right. Maybe Nintendo never expected the DS to compete with PSP, maybe the sales of the DS is a just a bonus until Game Boy Future is unleashed. At this point I dunno. Nintendo has lots of things to do though in order to compete in the future.

 

[soundwave05]

If nintendo releses the next gameboy in 2006 consumers will probably be pissed since they bought a DS only 1 1/2 ago. Also I think most people are thinking that DS is the new gameboy. If the next gameboy comes out in 2007 or later they probably won't beat sony because it would already have a strong foothold in the market.

You would think so, but as long as Nintendo continues to support the DS decently (perhaps as a budget portable, replacing the GBA SP), I don't know if too many people will be complaining. People just don't seem to be anal about new models when it comes to portable (i-Pod photo anyone?).

The bigger issue is by 2006, Sony could have a 10-12 million headstart or more.

I think its going to eventually break down something like this when all is said and done ...

PSP - 70 mill
DS - 40 mill
Game Boy Next - 50 mill

PSP becomes the no.1 handheld, but Nintendo ends up controlling the majority of the handheld market. That would be quite interesting.

 

[Mrbob]

I said it last week, and I'll say it this week:

It's gonna take Sony until fall 2005 to just MATCH Nintendo, let alone surpass them. With each PSP sold at a significant loss and each DS sold at a moderate profit, I think some people need to rethink what is a victory and what isn't.

It a nutshell, its taken a device thats two tech. generations ahead of a Nintendo offering to even think about having a CHANCE to knock Nintendo off their pedestal. By the time Sony is gearing up to finally start making some profit off the PSP, the GameBoy Next will be coming, and the technological advantage of the PSP ceases to exist.

By the time Game Boy Next is here, the PSP will be entrenched in all territories. Now, if the GBNext comes out REALLY soon, like later this year, it'll clip the DS by its knees. I really don't understand the whole PSP/DS sales argument. The PSP is going to outsell the DS by a big margin by the time after everything is said and done. The reason for this is that the DS won't have the same shelf life. Once the GB Next is here do you think Nintendo and 3rd parties will care about the DS anymore? Are 3rd parties going to want to support the DS, GBNext, and PSP? DS will get dropped just like the GBA is getting phased out this year. The only thing that will keep the DS afloat after the release of the GBNext is if the portable actually does become a true 3rd pillar with different types of games we don't see on other systems/portables. Right now Nintendo content on DS is not treating the system as a 3rd pillar. Which is great for DS owners. But at the same time Nintendo isn't establishing the portable to what they first envisioned. Once their franchise games leave DS for GBNext interest goes up for GBNext and fades for DS. Personally, the sooners the GBNext gets there the better. I want the GBNext and PSP to duke it out.

 

[koam]

I know the DS was well intentioned, but Nintendo deserves to get their asses handed to them in a silver plater by Sony on this one. They were too cocky and this is the N64 all over again, mark my words on this one. I've been a Nintendo fan longer than some of you have been alive but when you look at the DS and look at the PSP, you can't help but feel ripped off with the DS. It's no where near the power of the Psp, it can't do stuff that simple cellphones or other portable devices can do, there's just no pull to it. The graphics are laughable when you compare them to the PSP and the lack of analog is just murder. I just didn't have any fun with Mario 64 DS whereas Mario 64 was one of my favorite games of all time.

The only real advantage the DS has, which will probably make me play it more than the PSP, is that it was designed with mini-games in mind, which are perfect for when you're on the go. However, at the same time, It's nice being able to watch episodes of Family Guy on the train with the PSP.

As far as bang for your buck goes, the PSP is just far too appealing.

 

[Izzy]

I guess I don't see what all those in the PSP camp are so excited about, and why Nintendo fans feel so defensive about it.

The PSP absolutely BLOWS THE DS OUT OF THE WATER with its tech, screen, graphics, etc. They're hardly in the same stratosphere. Yet the systems are selling at roughly a 6:4 or 7:4 ratio because of Sony's inability to orchestrate a launch/post launch period.

I said it last week, and I'll say it this week:

It's gonna take Sony until fall 2005 to just MATCH Nintendo, let alone surpass them. With each PSP sold at a significant loss and each DS sold at a moderate profit, I think some people need to rethink what is a victory and what isn't.

It a nutshell, its taken a device thats two tech. generations ahead of a Nintendo offering to even think about having a CHANCE to knock Nintendo off their pedestal. By the time Sony is gearing up to finally start making some profit off the PSP, the GameBoy Next will be coming, and the technological advantage of the PSP ceases to exist.

 

[Speevy]

 

[GDJustin]

Cute. I think Sony fans are the ones in denial

Nintendo is probably selling about 100K DS units worldwide, right now. Maybe slightly less, but not much so. Sony, on the other hand, is manufacturing (and quickly selling) 100K PSP units a week. Thats some gap closing.

When the PSP launches in America it'll sell its 250K units or however many, but by that time there will be a minimum of 2.5M DSs sold in America, and possibly more like 3, if we wanna go by Nintendo's recently revised predictions.

Basically, its literally impossible for Sony to close the worldwide DS/PSP gap, for the time being By the time they're starting to, the DS will launch in more territories ahead of the PAP. Its gonna be a long, and very very unprofitable road for Sony, in 2005.

 

[GDJustin]

Don't get me wrong, the PSP should outsell the DS by a huge margin, when all is said and done. The fact that its going to take a year and millions in hardware losses for Sony to do it just makes it sort of a hollow victory, imo. What does that prove? That someone with tech not even in the same stratosphere as a Nintendo handheld can marginally outsell them?

 

[soundwave05]

Cute. I think Sony fans are the ones in denial

Nintendo is probably selling about 100K DS units worldwide, right now. Maybe slightly less, but not much so. Sony, on the other hand, is manufacturing (and quickly selling) 100K PSP units a week. Thats some gap closing.

When the PSP launches in America it'll sell its 250K units or however many, but by that time there will be a minimum of 2.5M DSs sold in America, and possibly more like 3, if we wanna go by Nintendo's recently revised predictions.

Basically, its literally impossible for Sony to close the worldwide DS/PSP gap, for the time being By the time they're starting to, the DS will launch in more territories ahead of the PAP. Its gonna be a long, and very very unprofitable road for Sony, in 2005.

I guess Sony should can the PS3 right now then too, because by the time they launch the Xenon will probably have an even larger head start.

If the GameCube had outsold the PS2 for three straight weeks by a sizable margin in early 2002, people would be going crazy saying Sony was in trouble.

A 1-2 million unit head start isn't a whole lot when you're talking about products that could sell 50-100 million units in their lifespan.

 

[teiresias]

E3 is the answer to everything. The Revolution should decide Nintendo's fate.

Now that's depressing.

 

[Speevy]

The Gamecube has outsold the PS2 in Japan, hasn't it?

 

[soundwave05]

The Gamecube has outsold the PS2 in Japan, hasn't it?

Never for more than one week at a time I believe.

This is actually the second straight week that the PSP has outsold the DS + GBA combined, along with being the third straight week its outsold the DS.

 

[teiresias]

The Gamecube has outsold the PS2 in Japan, hasn't it?

I certainly hope you're referring to some random weekly sales near launch or maybe when there was a big release that Gamecube outsold the PS2 for maybe a week or something. If you honestly think that the Gamecube has outsold the PS2 in Japan overall I feel sorry for you - having been locked in that room with nothing but an NES to play for two decades.

 

[ypo]

" What does that prove?"

It proves Nintendo is ass backwards and that Sony is on its way to take 50%+ of marketshare in the current gen handle market from a virtual monopoly.

 

[soundwave05]

I think PSP will be profitable (probably quite profitable) in the long term.

The way Kutaragi does business isn't actually all that different from Yamauchi's philosophy with the NES/Famicom.

Back then Yamauchi ordered an insane amount of chipsets, because by buying in bulk it cut costs, but there was no gauruntee that Nintendo could actually sell that amount.

So it basically put Nintendo in a position where failure was not an option. If the NES/Famicom had tanked, Nintendo would have been stuck with a ton of unused chipsets which they paid for.

Its the same thing with the PSP, in order for the system to eventually be profitable, Sony has to ensure that the userbase of the handheld is very high so they can draw back yields in the long term.

 

[kaching]

Don't get me wrong, the PSP should outsell the DS by a huge margin, when all is said and done. The fact that its going to take a year and millions in hardware losses for Sony to do it just makes it sort of a hollow victory, imo. What does that prove? That someone with tech not even in the same stratosphere as a Nintendo handheld can marginally outsell them?

Nintendo is well entrenched in the handheld market and it was obviously never going to take anything less than a herculean effort to displace them from near complete dominance - the initial "victory" was never going to be anything but costly. What hasn't been assured is whether they'd actually achieve a measure of victory for the effort put into it, but so far signs are positive.

 

[CloudNL]

OMG those numbers! :lol

Wednesdays are my days on GAF!

Next week on GAF:
"Will the PSP kick DS's butt? What excuse will the N-fans give this time? Just wait till next week to find out!"

 

[soundwave05]

I dunno if Sony is really losing a ton of money on the PSP anyway.

How much would these components really cost Sony (I wonder sometimes) ...

LCD - $40 ... the PSone LCD retails for $50 and is larger with a higher resolution
Battery - Lets say $30. Sony sells replacement batteries at retail for about $45 USD.
Disc Drive - $40
Chipset - $70 About Dreamcast level in power with more RAM
Casing - $30

That'd be about $210 in manufacturing costs, not exactly an insane loss. I think actually Sony probably can get better prices than what I'm quoting. The manufacturing costs go down as production ramps up too.

 

[DarienA]

Don't get me wrong, the PSP should outsell the DS by a huge margin, when all is said and done. The fact that its going to take a year and millions in hardware losses for Sony to do it just makes it sort of a hollow victory, imo. What does that prove? That someone with tech not even in the same stratosphere as a Nintendo handheld can marginally outsell them?

Nobody had a problem trumpeting the sales victory when it was Xbox monthly sales keeping pace and outselling PS2s......

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

If the GameCube had outsold the PS2 for three straight weeks by a sizable margin in early 2002, people would be going crazy saying Sony was in trouble.

The GameCube outsold PS2 a few weeks in 2001, though. If they hadn't provided the supply to do so, it wouldn't be very surprising to see remnants of launch/SSBM/Animal Crossing demand allow it to happen in a slower month like January when other hardware had slowed down.

 

[CloudNL]

I dunno if Sony is really losing a ton of money on the PSP anyway.

How much would these components really cost Sony (I wonder sometimes) ...

LCD - $40 ... the PSone LCD retails for $50 and is larger with a higher resolution
Battery - Lets say $30. Sony sells replacement batteries at retail for about $45 USD.
Disc Drive - $40
Chipset - $70 About Dreamcast level in power with more RAM
Casing - $30

That'd be about $210 in manufacturing costs, not exactly an insane loss. I think actually Sony probably can get better prices than what I'm quoting. The manufacturing costs go down as production ramps up too.

Sony isn't losing a lot of money:

PSP nach Sommer 2005 profitabel

28.01.05 - Sony wird mit dem Handheld PSP nach dem Sommer 2005 Gewinne einfahren. Das bestätigte Sonys Vice President Katsumi Ihara laut Jiji Press auf einem Investorentreffen des Unternehmens.

Gamefront.de

It says that the PSP will profitable starting this summer.

 

[jarrod]

I dunno if Sony is really losing a ton of money on the PSP anyway.

How much would these components really cost Sony (I wonder sometimes) ...

LCD - $50 ... the PSone LCD retails for $50 and is larger with a higher resolution
Battery - Lets say $30. Sony sells replacement batteries at retail for about $45 USD.
Disc Drive - $40
Chipset - $70 About Dreamcast level in power with more RAM
Casing - $30

That'd be about $220 in manufacturing costs, not exactly an insane loss. The manufacturing costs go down as production ramps up too.

Estimating $50 for the LCD is rather generous (really, it blows away the PSone LCD and every other handheld screen on the market today), and I bet the chipset's actually closer to $50 really being it's mostly custom inhouse MIPS design (though RAM/WiFi might drive the costs up). Obviously PSP's costs will plummit as economies of scale get up to speed but right now I think it's fair to guess they lose a good $50-$150 per unit.

 

[soundwave05]

Sony isn't losing a lot of money:



Gamefront.de

It says that the PSP will profitable starting this summer.

Yeah, more or less what I'd expect.

The PSP is made up of five main components (the LCD, the battery, the chipset, the disc drive, and the casing), and really I think all of those components probably cost Sony $40 or less, except maybe the chipset (I'm including WiFi as part of the chipset).

The PSP LCD has a higher contrast ratio/brightness so it looks better than most LCDs, but really the resolution of the LCD display or the size (4.5 inches) is definitely a step down from the 5 inch PSOne 640x480 LCDs that Sony has been selling for a while now. You can buy those at the store for $50-$60.

 

[refreshZ]

With each PSP sold at a significant loss and each DS sold at a moderate profit, I think some people need to rethink what is a victory and what isn't.

How's is that a good thing for the consumer? If it wasn't for Sony we probabaly wouldn't even be playing on a handheld N64 yet judging by how Nintendo were pacing their technology roadmap. Sony are taking it in the ass to bring us an absolutely astonishing bargain in the PSP. Its cutting edge technology that's left Nintendo standing and shown us (as if we didn't know) just what kind of play-it-safe, milk-the-monopoly hogs they are and that the market has let them become. The PSP's arrival is a victory for the consumer and THAT is what matters.

 

[jarrod]

The PSP is made up of five main components (the LCD, the battery, the chipset, the disc drive, and the casing), and really I think all of those components probably cost Sony $40 or less, except maybe the chipset.

Nope, Kutaragi specified the high end screen, 32MB RAM and WiFi chip as being the big costs in PSP. Those 3 parts alone could be above the unit's MSRP actually. The MIPS chipset is pretty cheap probably and the UMD/casing is probably under $20 each.

 

[soundwave05]

Nope, Kutaragi specified the high end screen, 32MB RAM and WiFi chip as being the big costs in PSP. Those 3 parts alone could be above the unit's MSRP actually. The MIPS chipset is pretty cheap probably and the UMD/casing is probably under $20 each.

Those are the core costs, but I seriously, seriously, seriously doubt a 4.5 inch LCD, 32MB of RAM, and a WiFi chip (even the DS has one of these) costs Sony $200 alone to manufacture. Infact I doubt those three components cost Sony more than $100 all together.

Especailly at the rate they're placing orders for this thing, production is already up to almost 1 million/month.

They should be profitable by summer time.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Nobody had a problem trumpeting the sales victory when it was Xbox monthly sales keeping pace and outselling PS2s......

For one that's comparing apples and bowling balls: launch demand versus deal/game-created demand 2-3 years after launch. For another sure people had a problem with it. There are dozens of mindsets running around here; just because you see posts that contradict each other doesn't make them from the same people.

 

[jarrod]

If it wasn't for Sony we probabaly wouldn't even be playing on a handheld N64 yet judging by how Nintendo were pacing their technology roadmap.

Actually, releasing Nitro/DS in 2004 would've been following Nintendo's technology roadmap to a tee. All Sony's really done is bring the technology arms race into handhelds by going with bleeding edge technology and an upfront loss strategy.... which elicited a "Nintendo crazy" response in the DS featureset. :/

 

[DarienA]

For one that's comparing apples and bowling balls: launch demand versus deal/game-created demand 2-3 years after launch. For another sure people had a problem with it. There are dozens of mindsets running around here; just because you see posts that contradict each other doesn't make them from the same people.

Comparing apples to bowling balls is the norm in this forum.

 

[jarrod]

Those are the core costs, but I seriously, seriously, seriously doubt a 4.5 inch LCD, 32MB of RAM, and a WiFi chip (even the DS has one of these) costs Sony $200 alone to manufacture.

Especailly at the rate they're placing orders for this thing, production is already up to almost 1 million/month.

They should be profitable by summer time.

Problem being, this isn't just any 4.5" LCD screen. Marco's gone into detail before, but it's a part of Sharp's new high visibility line and probably isn't too comparable to PSone's 1999 LCD cost wise (which debuted at $149 btw, $249 for the combo). I'm not too knowledgable about screen technologies, so this might be like the blind leading the blind on my part, but Marco or anyone who knows more should feel free to jump in.

 

[UltimateMarioMan]

This will not last. Nintendo really should have waited a few more months to let 3rd partys get their games ready. Once the 3rd party games start coming out on a regular basis (Which should be fairly soon) the DS will leave the PSP in the dust.

 

[soundwave05]

Problem being, this isn't just any 4.5" LCD screen. Marco's gone into detail before, but it's a part of Sharp's new high visibility line and probably isn't too comparable to PSone's 1999 LCD cost wise (which debuted at $149 btw, $249 for the combo). I'm not too knowledgable about screen technologies, so this might be like the blind leading the blind on my part, but Marco or anyone who knows more should feel free to jump in.

Even so, the rate that Sony manufacturers these suckers at, they're probably getting a pretty heavy discount.

The 5-inch 640x480 Sony LCDs are nothing to scoff at either, the picture quality is great.

 

[soundwave05]

This will not last. Nintendo really should have waited a few more months to let 3rd partys get their games ready. Once the 3rd party games start coming out on a regular basis (Which should be fairly soon) the DS will leave the PSP in the dust.

Meh, I'd say third party support between the two is more or less even. I'd give DS a slight edge in Japan because of Final Fantasy III, and PSP an edge in North America because of Grand Theft Auto PSP/EA stuff.

The "style" of games on the systems is different, the DS being more of a extension of the Game Boy and N64-era stuff, while the PSP software would probably appeal to those who enjoy the Sony-style of gaming (more emphasis on arcade games, older-appealling software, sports titles). Its gonna come down to which "style" more people prefer.

 

[Razoric]

This will not last. Nintendo really should have waited a few more months to let 3rd partys get their games ready. Once the 3rd party games start coming out on a regular basis (Which should be fairly soon) the DS will leave the PSP in the dust.

:lol :lol :lol riiiiiiiight

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

This will not last. Nintendo really should have waited a few more months to let 3rd partys get their games ready. Once the 3rd party games start coming out on a regular basis (Which should be fairly soon) the DS will leave the PSP in the dust.

Wait, you think Nintendo would've been bettetr off... not selling the few million worldwide in December? To make for a somewhat better spring launch against a PSP which has already sold a million units?

 

[Lord Error]

Problem being, this isn't just any 4.5" LCD screen. Marco's gone into detail before, but it's a part of Sharp's new high visibility line and probably isn't too comparable to PSone's 1999 LCD cost wise (which debuted at $149 btw, $249 for the combo). I'm not too knowledgable about screen technologies, so this might be like the blind leading the blind on my part, but Marco or anyone who knows more should feel free to jump in.

Yeah, PSP screen is pretty much latest what Sharp's got as far as handheld screens go, and I think it's also using Sony's new "Xbrite" screen filter/coating (or Sharp's variation of it, anyways) The latests tech is always on a pricey side, but I won't pretend I know the deal between the Sony and Sharp and how much money is being exchanged there.

What does that prove? That someone with tech not even in the same stratosphere as a Nintendo handheld can marginally outsell them?

So what happened with the old mantra that superior technology does not matter with handhelds? (often quoted Gamegear vs. Gameboy example, etc.)

 

[sonycowboy]

Don't get me wrong, the PSP should outsell the DS by a huge margin, when all is said and done. The fact that its going to take a year and millions in hardware losses for Sony to do it just makes it sort of a hollow victory, imo. What does that prove? That someone with tech not even in the same stratosphere as a Nintendo handheld can marginally outsell them?

I think you're being pretty unfair in your analysis.

"The fact that its going to take a year"
Right now, it's all about supply. I don't think you can knock them for not outselling the DS LTD when the DS launched first (and is alone in the US right now) and both the PSP & the DS have been highly contstrained.

"and millions in hardware losses for Sony"
Funny how Sony thinks it will be profitable in very, very short order. In addition, it's tough to throw out money here. Millions would be easily worth it to break into the market. Tens of millions would be tough to swallow. Hundreds of millions would be a disaster. Billions, well only Microsoft can do that

Also, if they only lost $5 per unit, that would be $5M when a million units are shipped. This is true of all hardware and that's why they charge royalties and invest heavinly in first party development. The platform revenue is what's important.

"That someone with tech not even in the same stratosphere as a Nintendo handheld can marginally outsell them"

or

"Don't get me wrong, the PSP should outsell the DS by a huge margin, when all is said and done. "

Which is it? Will they outsell the DS by a HUGE margin or will they only marginally outsell them. Personally, I'd agree with your latter statement that it's going to outsell by a huge margin.

 

[jarrod]

Even so, the rate that Sony manufacturers these suckers at, they're probably getting a pretty heavy discount.

Sure but this is bleeding edge screen technology. Even at hypothetically $90-100 per screen, that might already be a rather hefty discount... plus Sharp's out to make cash of the deal. The Samsung factor complicates things too there, which probably affected on how big Sony's Sharp order is.

The 5-inch 640x480 Sony LCDs are nothing to scoff at either, the picture quality is great.

But at the same time it's ancient tech and really not a good basis for anything. Guessing the PSP's screen is super cheap because you can get a clearance PSone screen for $50 is sort of laughable.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

"That someone with tech not even in the same stratosphere as a Nintendo handheld can marginally outsell them"

or

"Don't get me wrong, the PSP should outsell the DS by a huge margin, when all is said and done. "

Which is it? Will they outsell the DS by a HUGE margin or will they only marginally outsell them. Personally, I'd agree with your latter statement that it's going to outsell by a huge margin.

He's saying that right now the weekly difference is marginal, especially considering the current totals. However, Nintendo will have a new Game Boy before Sony will have a new PSP, which will obviously steal a lot of attention from DS.

 

[Prine]

This is nothing. Once PSP are readily available then watch the beatdown PSP will give DS.

GReat news, but expected.

GO PSP GO!

 

[radioheadrule83]

I hate posting long posts at the bottom of a page.

 

[soundwave05]

Nintendo DS is a good product, the real problem with it is its a year too late.

Nintendo really needed a headstart of 10-12 million units, not a mere 1-2 million if they're going to hold off a product as strong as the PSP.

The snail's pace at which Nintendo has pushed the portable market basically has finally just bit them in the ass really. Sony has caught them with their pants down.

 

[sonycowboy]

He's saying that right now the weekly difference is marginal, especially considering the current totals. However, Nintendo will have a new Game Boy before Sony will have a new PSP, which will obviously steal a lot of attention from DS.

But it's not a competitively accurate delta between the two systems, when both are in such short supply. We simply don't know how many either system could be selling (or how much other software might already be released) if there were more units available.

You could argue that the situation is what it is, but in the end the PSP is barely outselling the PSP, and that's true. But to say that somehow that signals a failure of the system to "defeat" another system is competely ridiculous.

 

[Razoric]

i have a DS so i dont want it to fail... id like to see some stratagy games come out for it. :O