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Slept through WWE Smackdown last night, but listened to some of it. I still can't grasp how Christian is the one who's the heel when he gets cheated out of a match, GM lets it fly, and now has to re-earn the shot.

Also, saw this on Punk's Twitter

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Bowser said:
If he's leaving (which sadly I don't doubt), people are speculating it's because he feels he's been mishandled by WWE and that he may just need a break. It also doesn't help that Vince wants to trademark the name "CM Punk" which Punk has no intentions of letting that happen.
Sad.

Punk was one of the bright spots in 'rasslin.
Not one of these roided up monkeys of old.
 
looking at the current roster i see these guys have the best chance of winning mitb on their brands:

Raw : ADR, Drew, Dolph, Kofi or Morrison

Smackdown: Wade, Daniel, Cody or Christian
 
Chavo just tweeted that he asked for his release:

mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
For me to start being a Guerrero again, and start kicking ass again, be able to tell stories in the ring like u know we can. :) win or lose
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Chavo Guerrero
mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
Being happy. I was not happy in WWE anymore. I had a smile on my face last night though when I got my release though! :) now it's time for
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Chavo Guerrero
mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
The most out of ppl & matches. It's our gift, but also our curse. WWE has always used us to make other ppl look good. It all comes down to
22 minutes ago


Chavo Guerrero
mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
Happened to Eddie. After being champ, they still had him working mid card status. Being a Guerrero, we've been taught since diapers to get..
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Chavo Guerrero
mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
Of not being used correctly. Just cuz u can make other ppl look good, doesn't mean they should just have u lose to them. The same thing...


mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
Yes, it's true. My release is the big news I was talking about. But let's get something straight. I asked for my release. I was just tired..
 
Chavo was the last active wrestler left in the company that came over in the WCW invasion. Hope he finds something good to do.
 
Seraphis Cain said:
Good for Chavo. I'm happy for him.

Now here's hoping he goes to CMLL or AAA and not TNA.
This.

WWE definitely misused Chavo, but I alway figured he'd stick around forever to teach the newer superstars...
 
Chavo never had the talent of Eddie and always road on his coat tails, back to the days of him being his slave in WCW. He would have been released long ago if it wasn't for Eddie dying.
 
BoboBrazil said:
Chavo never had the talent of Eddie and always road on his coat tails, back to the days of him being his slave in WCW. He would have been released long ago if it wasn't for Eddie dying.

Bull. Chavo is immensely talented. But there was only so much Chavo could do when he was booked to lose to a midget for 3 years. And even before that WWE kept him down.
 
Jeff Albertson said:
Chavo just tweeted that he asked for his release:

mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
For me to start being a Guerrero again, and start kicking ass again, be able to tell stories in the ring like u know we can. :) win or lose
19 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


Chavo Guerrero
mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
Being happy. I was not happy in WWE anymore. I had a smile on my face last night though when I got my release though! :) now it's time for
20 minutes ago


Chavo Guerrero
mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
The most out of ppl & matches. It's our gift, but also our curse. WWE has always used us to make other ppl look good. It all comes down to
22 minutes ago


Chavo Guerrero
mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
Happened to Eddie. After being champ, they still had him working mid card status. Being a Guerrero, we've been taught since diapers to get..
23 minutes ago


Chavo Guerrero
mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
Of not being used correctly. Just cuz u can make other ppl look good, doesn't mean they should just have u lose to them. The same thing...


mexwarrior Chavo Guerrero
Yes, it's true. My release is the big news I was talking about. But let's get something straight. I asked for my release. I was just tired..

That's a lot of tweeting to say "I'm going to Impact Wrestling and joining the Mexicools."
 
BoboBrazil said:
Chavo never had the talent of Eddie and always road on his coat tails, back to the days of him being his slave in WCW. He would have been released long ago if it wasn't for Eddie dying.
Exactly. He was serviceable in the ring but he couldn't hold a candle to Eddie. Eddies death gave him several more years of making good money.
 
He had supposedly been feeling improperly used lately, which is probably why he's not so heartbroken. He got 10 good years out of the company. Also mixing in 5 years with WCW, who loved to overpay everybody, he's set for life if he saved his money properly.

Eddie's death gave him about six extra years to hang around. He was totally going to get dumped when the Kerwin White thing ran its course.
 
Not to say that Chavo intentionally rode on Eddie's coat tails. He allegedly turned down the post-death Eddie push that Rey eventually got.
 
Here's a live report of CHIKARA's event in Chicago courtesy of MikeandTomPresent.com.

An absolutely awesome experience was had at the Logan Square Auditorium on Kedzie Avenue in Chicago last night, as Chikara returned to the Chicagoland area for the first time in a few years. It had to be considered a success on many levels, as it was a great show in the ring, they drew a reported 350 fans (no matter what the number was, it was standing room only by belltime) and I didn't hear one person leaving the building who wasn't completely psyched and whose love of Chikara wasn't increased.
First off, the Logan Square Auditorium is an AWESOME building for wrestling. It's very similar to Pro Wrestling Guerrilla's building in Reseda, California, where the ceiling is just low enough to shove the sound down and the crowd's all shoved together, so the crowd noise goes directly to the center.

They sent out a fellow before the show to explain some of the storylines going on in Chikara and the 12 Large Summit (round-robin title tournament) concepts in case they had any first-time fans (he was also in the crowd throughout the night in case anyone needed to ask him questions), but from what I saw, the vast majority of this crowd knew every single character and most (if not all) of the storylines, judging by the reactions in each match.

Gavin Loudspeaker then came out to play a song and open the show. Gavin is proof that there's an exception to every rule. Calling himself "wrestling's only rock 'n' roll ring announcer", Gavin is a character. He's the ring announcer, a role that most think should be some generic dude in a suit who doesn't stand out. On most shows, that'd be what would work, but in Chikara, Gavin's role as the party host absolutely works and adds to the Chikara live experience. Plus, he's one of a few guys on this show who have a commanding presence in person that needs to be seen to be appreciated.

1) The Batiri (Obariyon, Kodama and Kobald) defeated The Throwbacks (Sugar Dunkerton & Dasher Hatfield) and Matt Classic . I loved how much this crowd (which was standing room only, by the way) seemed to recognize, know and be completely familiar with all of the characters. Throwbacks were the first good guy act of the night to be incredibly beloved. Your regular Chikara mid-card trios match with the physicality and the humor all brought together. Way more of Hatfield and Dunkerton than Classic, but Matt got his moments (such as getting really confused over Chikara's lucha tag rules).

2) Ophidian d. Isais Velasquez via cobra clutch Cattle Mutilation. This was one of two matches to cover for the representatives from GALLI Lucha Libre not appearing at the show. Velasquez is a local Chicago guy (I believe he wrestles for the VWAA group out of Midlothian). Like I said on Twitter, this was the best possible "2004 IWA Mid-South unannounced undercard match" where both guys worked hard and looked good. Velasquez didn't become an overnight sensation, but he looked at least good enough to probably lose in the first round of Young Lions Cup. The finishing submission hold looked REALLY neat and I hope Ophidian uses it more often.

3) Team FIST (Johnny Gargano & Chuck Taylor) defeated The Colony. Really darned-good 2011 indie-style big spot-big spot-big-spot type of match. Gargano and Taylor looked tremendous together as a team; that time in Dragon Gate as Ronin has seemingly helped them a lot. Green Ant is already really good for his experience level, but in six months to a year, it'll be scary to think how good he'll be at the hold-for-hold catch style that's similar to how his maestro (Mike Quackenbush) wrestles. They pulled Chuck Taylor's "grenade" (he pulls out an imaginary grenade, drops it on his opponent's chest and blows it up with an elbow drop) out of mothballs, but this time, Soldier Ant avoided the elbow and blew it up with a saluting roaring elbow. The last six-to-seven minutes of this match was gold if you love the move-heavy, fast-paced double-team modern tag team style.

4) Non-Title Bout: Young Lions Cup Champion Frightmare d. Hieracon. This was the second replacement match for the Osirian Portal bout. Hieracon (who's awesome to begin with) really needs to be seen live to be appreciated; he looks so ridiculously silky-smooth. These two had a decent little bout; really hope to see a rematch in the future.

5) 12 Large Summit: Sara Del Rey d. Icarus. I said on the site this past week that I expected this to be a bit of a spectacle where Del Rey would kick Icarus a lot and he would howl. This was maybe the most pleasant surprise in pro wrestling this year. In no other circumstance, this probably wouldn't have been nearly this good. However, the moon and the stars aligned just right (the crowd hated the dastardly Icarus SO much that they treated the top heel group BDK's Del Rey with a queen's welcome, they figured a way to wrestle a perfect match for this crowd, the nearfalls were just right, the finish came at the perfect time off of the perfect spot) that this is, by far, the best Icarus match I've ever seen (up with his Young Lions Cup final with Shane Storm in 2005) and possibly one of the best Del Rey matches I've seen. Icarus went for his Pedigree, but Del Rey powered into a cradle pin for the win to a standing ovation. Mindblowningly great.

Intermission. They must've done some good business since the line for pictures with Mike Quackenbush in the ring was insanely long as there was a mob around the merchandise table.

6) 12 Large Summit: Claudio Castagnoli defeated Hallowicked with crotch-related shenanigans. These two looked so great just trading holds and counter-holds. It started off slow to bring the crowd back up from intermission, but ended up with some hot maneuvers (including a gorgeous-looking sunset flip reversal out of a powerbomb, which I imagine must've been more difficult than usual considering these are two tall, lanky-looking dudes).

7) 12 Large Summit: Ultramantis Black defeated Fire Ant. People like to refer to all independent wrestlers as "indie geeks" who have no presence or superstar aura; they're just regular bums. There are unfortunately a LOT of guys out there like that, but Ultramantis Black is NOT one of them. I don't even think it's the persona or the unique look; he just commands attention from the second he walks out of the curtain. Really awesome match, this was. If you're a big fan of the dramatic near-falls off of big moves, this is for you. These guys took a LOT of big moves, such as Mantis giving Fire Ant a British Bulldog-style powerslam ON THE APRON. Just absolutely ridiculous. The finish came when Mantis spiked Fire Ant with a Michinoku Driver #2, Ant kicked out, then Mantis immediately pulled him up for a Praying Mantis Bomb (double-underhook piledriver) for the victory. Huge reaction for the finish.

8. Eddie Kingston defeated Colt Cabana. Not nearly the styles clash you'd think, considering Kingston is really intense and often has the hard-hitting, punishment-heavy matches and Colt Cabana is, well, Colt Cabana. They did the Cabana comedy before the match, a lot of which was based off of how silly Cabana perceived a spinning backfist (Kingston's finisher) to look. They settled it down, had a serious match where Kingston beat down Cabana (whose selling is INSANELY underrated; he's really good at reaching out into the crowd and helping you feel his pain all the way into the back row), then they came back up for the finish, which was poetic justice as Kingston blasted Cabana with his "Backfist To The Future" for the pin. Cabana, like Mantis, has a commanding presence live and, like many, it blows my mind that World Wrestling Entertainment isn't employing him at this moment.

9) The Soul Touchaz (Acid Jazz, Willie "Da Bomb" Richardson and Marshe Rockett) defeated the BDK (Tim Donst , Jakob Hammermeier and Tursas). I feel like a broken record at this point, but this match was AWESOME. Again, this maybe wouldn't have been so incredible in front of another crowd, but this was Chicago. This is the Soul Touchaz' crowd. The crowd knew that the BDK had laid out the Touchaz' manager C-Red and valet Dimond in Philly (it was explained before the show, but I doubt the reaction would have been so emotional had it just been people being told over the P.A. system before the show) . Huge brawl to open the match with lots of fisticuffs flying, then the BDK settled it down and got their heat. Tim Donst really might be the most improved wrestler of 2011; the guy has gotten SO good. In terms of pure work, he was on the top end of guys on this show. Really, really hot finish to this match, as Claudio Castagnoli tried running out of the crowd to interfere, but C-Red (looking positively svelte; a lot thinner than I remember him ever being) blasted Claudio with a pipe. Tursas tried getting at C-Red, but Willie Richardson used his girth to pounce the super-heavyweight Tursas out of the ring. Marshe Rockett gave Tim Donst an Ace Crusher, then Jakob got blasted with the pipe by Acid Jazz, leading to Willie (who, like I said, is a thick fellow) going up top and giving Jakob the legdrop (stalling before jumping to let the crowd rise to their feet in awe) for the win. INSANE, insane reaction for the finish, as the crowd were all up on their feet, hooting and hollering like a hometown pro sports team had just won their given championship. An absolutely incredible ending to what I have to assume Chikara has to think is a perfect re-entry into the Chicago market. The match and its ending renewed my love in wrestling; it was exactly how storytelling is done and showed the magic that can be created when you just stick to the basics and let the heroes triumph over their dastardly foes at the end of the day and blow up the proverbial balloon until it has to pop. The crowd was so hyped after that match that they wouldn't stop chanting "PLEASE COME BACK!"" and Gavin kept having to delay his goodbye speech.

I really, really hope this translates to DVD, as it was an awesome live experience. I haven't been to a ton of shows since 2006, but this was easily the best live event I've seen since the 2006 Ted Petty Invitational and only rivaled by the 2004 and 2006 TPI's (which were incredible live events in their own rights). You couldn't ask for a better indie wrestling experience; the staff runs the show like clockwork on a level you NEVER see on independent wrestling shows, they try and give every venue a little bit of a "Chikara" look on the shoestring budget they have (with banners and such), it's an insanely fan-friendly experience, all of the wrestlers know their roles and play them to perfection, and every little touch that every other group seems to miss is one that Chikara makes sure is covered in spades. I cannot recommend this show and the Chikara live experience enough.
 
Found a second row ticket in the public on sale for Night of Champions and grabbed it. This Canadian Mail strike better end soon so I can get rid of my 4th row ticket once I get it.
 
Well, sucks to hear about Chavo, but at least he's happy with it. Can't blame him when he was put to job to Hornswoggle who ended the existence of the Cruiserweight belt.
 
Just watching Smackdown now. Someone should really come up with a bingo card for all things Booker says during commentary. I bet everyone would win every week.
 
dream said:
I remember reading about Alberto Del Rio trying to keep the company from signing Sin Cara too.
Yeh, when Sin Cara was in negotiations with WWE Del Rio tried to warn CMLL. He really shouldn't worry about him though. Del Rio's mic skills make him a better fit for WWE than for Mexico.
 
Soooo, my account finally got activated, and I've been visiting this thread since foreeeveeeer. I am a huge wrestling fan, feels good to actually post now

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Screw Warriors' freaky pink towel arms, Best in the World 2011 is TODAY!

ROH - BEST IN THE WORLD 2011 - JUNE 26th - NYC - iPPV

http://www.rohwrestling.com/bestintheworld/

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ROH WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH; Eddie Edwards (c) vs Davey Richards

The American Wolves collide as Davey Richards challenges his long-time tag team partner Eddie Edwards for the ROH World Heavyweight Title. This wasn't a match that Davey sought, but Eddie felt the need to prove that he could defend his belt against Richards, a man that many thought would be the next world champ after Roderick Strong. Eddie has been through a number of gruelling title defences against the likes of Chris Hero and Roderick Strong, can he withstand this fresh test or will Davey Richards become the 15th ROH World Champion? And what will either outcome mean for the future of the American Wolves?

Eddie vs Davey: American Wolves Collide - Hype Video

Eddie Edwards & Davey Richards final words before Best in the World

Richards vs Edwards: Highlights of their 2010 TV Title Classic

ROH WORLD TAG TEAM TITLE - 4-WAY ELIMINATION MATCH; Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team (c) vs The Kings of Wrestling vs The Briscoe Brothers vs The All-Night Express

It doesn't get much bigger than this and Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas will surely have their work cut out for them as they attempt to defend their ROH Tag Team Titles against not one, but three of the top teams in ROH today. The Kings of Wrestling will be looking to recapture the belts they held for over a year, but the inclusion of the volatile Briscoe Brothers and up-and-comers Kenny King & Rhett Titus of the All-Night Express complicates matters. And speaking of The Bricoes & ANX, can their hatred be put on standby while they challenge for the belts? Or will this blood feud reignite in New York City?

The Briscoe Brothers: Day One

ROH TV TITLE MATCH; Christopher Daniels (c) vs El Generico

With the sale of ROH to the Sinclair Broadcasting Group and the imminent return of ROH on TV in a month or two the ROH TV Title has been brought out of hiatus, but since ROH on HDnet ended the ROH TV Champion Christopher Daniels has become a changed man, turning on his friends and fans by joining up with the insidious Truth Martini's House of Truth faction. But he'll have a tough time keeping hold of his belt as he has to face 'The Generic Luchadore' El Generico, one of the most celebrated wrestlers on the independent circuit today. Can 'The Fallen Angel' Christopher Daniels retain his title in NYC, or will it be a celebration for the former ROH Tag champ El Generico?

GRUDGE MATCH; Homicide vs Rhino

Homicide has had a fair amount of problems with Prince Nana's Embassy these past few months, losing to The Embassy's Crown Jewel Tomasso Ciampa on not one, but two occasions (albeit due to foul play on the part of The Embassy). However, when Homicide snapped in Atlanta over WrestleMania weekend and attempted to attack Prince Nana and Princess Mia, the crown prince of Ghana West Africa went in search of a bodyguard to put 'The Notorious 187' Homicide out of action for good. That man is 'The War Machine' Rhino, a former ECW World Champion and WWE & TNA alumni who will make his debut in Ring of Honor as The Embassy's hired bodyguard.

Prince Nana's Bodyguard Revealed

SPECIAL CHALLENGE #1: Jay Lethal vs 'The Prodigy' Mike Bennett

After many years Jay Lethal makes his long awaited return to the company where he first gained fame, first as Hydro, a member of disliked faction Special K, and later as Jay Lethal, Samoa Joe's student and tag team partner and a 1 time ROH Pure Wrestling Champion. His first match back is against Mike Bennett, a man whose very presence in ROH is a divisive one. Bennett has all the tools of the trade, but he's not out to prove himself to the ROH fans, he's not out to impress them, or the guys in the back. Bennett wan't victory, and with his trainer 'Brutal' Bob Evans he'll be looking to upset Jay Lethal return home.

SPECIAL CHALLENGE #2; Steve Corino w/ Jimmy Jacobs vs Michael Elgin w/ Truth Martini

Steve Corino is a man with a chequered past. A former ECW world champion, Corino has held belts the world over and made a name for himself as one of the premier western talents wrestling in Japan. However, his career in ROH isn't quite as glorious. He was embroiled in a savage and brutal feud with Homicide that ended in a disgusting no-rope barbed wire match, and more recently he convinced Kevin Steen to go on a path of rampage through ROH, alienating him from the fans and the wrestlers in the back. But now Corino is out for redemption, and with his sponsor Jimmy Jacobs at his side he's looking to return the path of honour and redeem himself in the eyes of the fans and wrestlers. However, Corino is no fool, he knows the House of Truth will have the numbers advantage in New York City, so Corino has called the one man he knows will stand up and protect his & Jimmy's back; Kevin Steen, the monster of ROH, although while ROH officials have decreed that Steen won't be allowed in the building Steen has never been one to play by the rules and it will be interesting to see how this will unravel in NYC on Sunday.

Will Kevin Steen be in NYC?

SINGLES ACTION; Colt Cabana vs Tommaso Ciampa w/ The Embassy

Colt Cabana has had his troubles with The Embassy in the past, but more recently has been feuding with Christopher Daniels and The House of Truth. But in New York City he's going to go up against against the new Crown Jewel of Prince Nana's Embassy, Tommaso Ciampa, who has been making waves this past year in ROH and by winning the ECWA Super 8 Tournament last month. Cabana will certainly have his work cut out for him in NYC as The Embassy will be at ringside to support Ciampa, but if anyone knows the dangers of playing against the numbers game, it's Colt Cabana.

Live from New York City's Hammerstein Ballroom on June 26th at 4PM EST/9PM GMT via Internet Pay Per View for just $14.99;

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Hyped, can't wait for the show - also glad it's an early start, normally I'm up till 4/5AM watching US PPVs.
 
Plywood said:
^lol

Meanwhile at CM Punk's twitter:

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I thought the same exact thing when watching that. I was like "wow... this feels like wrestlin!" By the way, I'm really coming around on the Usos. Hopefully we can get a few more tag teams with some steam and reinvigorate that division.
 
GBONZZZZ said:
Soooo, my account finally got activated, and I've been visiting this thread since foreeeveeeer. I am a huge wrestling fan, feels good to actually post now

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Welcome to wrasslin' GAF!
 
GBONZZZZ said:
Soooo, my account finally got activated, and I've been visiting this thread since foreeeveeeer. I am a huge wrestling fan, feels good to actually post now

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Welcome!

im just in as well, but yeah feels great to post


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In other things, I just watched Botchamania 178 (yes just now)

And i think, if i go to one WWE live event in my life, one of the first things i would is chant BA-TIS-TA, it alwasy makes me laugh

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Also, Punk leaving maybe just a Trolling on his part (like Y2J after night of champions)
 
New NOAH;

NOAH - "GREAT VOYAGE 2011 IN TOKYO VOL. 2" - 08.05.2011
Tokyo Ariake Colosseum
4,400 Fans

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PLDE96A587C1C97F5F

01. Kensuke Office (Katsuhiko Nakajima, Kento Miyahara & Satoshi Kajiwara) vs Atsushi Aoki, Taiji Ishimori & Mikey Nicholls

02. Akira Taue & Kentaro Shiga vs Yoshinari Ogawa & Masao Inoue

03. Kensuke Office (Kensuke Sasaki & Takashi Okita) vs The Pink Gordy (Takeshi Morishima & Yutaka Yoshie)

04. Go Shiozaki vs Shuhei Taniguchi

05. Mohammed Yone vs No Mercy (Genba Hirayanagi, Yoshinobu Kanemaru & KENTA)

GHC JR. HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH;

06. Kotaro Suzuki (c) vs Ricky Marvin

GHC TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH;

07. Yoshihiro Takayama & Takuma Sato (c) vsJun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito

GHC WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH;

08. Takashi Sugiura (c) vs Minoru Suzuki

Good show, all the singles matches are great, especially enjoyed Shiozaki/Taniguchi and Suzuki/Marvin, although I'm getting kinda bored of Suzuki's run, which he'd dropped the belt to Nakajima.
 
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