Jurassic Park is a true masterpiece

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RedShift said:
I had a weird moment last night when reading Jurassic Park. It was describing Grant as wearing sneakers while giving lectures. Sneakers not being a very often used word in the UK it made me think of Grandpa Simpson in the episode 'Homer the Vigilante' saying 'He wore sneakers... for sneaking'. Then I realized the character he was describing, Malloy, was voiced by Sam Neill, who played Alan Grant. Then there's a thread on Jurassic Park. Mind Fuck.
No way!
 
Jurassic Park is a special movie to me, that goes beyond words like favorite, best, or masterpiece. I was very sheltered as a child from movies that my mother considered inappropriate for children. Which naturally led to my sneaking behind her back and watching taboo movies ranging from Gremlins to A Nightmare On Elm Street with my cousins, whom were allowed to watch pretty much anything. The problem with this was that I was never able to see many films in theaters outside of Disney or clearly family friendly pictures.

I was 9-years-old when Jurassic Park hit cinemas, and hadn't even heard of it until opening weekend when my cousins came to my house the night after they had seen it. They were raving on and on about how absolutely mind blowing it was, and how incredibly lifelike the dinosaurs were. Like practically every little boy, I loved dinosaurs. At that point, I regularly watched dinosaur films ranging from Godzilla to, my then favorite, Dinosaurus! But they were extremely adamant about how I'd never seen anything like Jurassic Park. It was about that time that the "controversy" about whether Jurassic Park was appropriate for children started cropping up on the nightly news, and naturally my parents got wind of it. So when I went to them begging to be taken to see it, they flat out refused.

So I spent the next three months obsessing over Jurassic Park. I interrogated my cousins daily, hoping to squeeze the tiniest bit of detail from them they might have forgotten. I collected the Topps trading cards. I even scrapped some loose change from around the house together and bought Michael Crichton's novel. While I was reading books far beyond my grade level at the time, this was my first adult novel. I enjoyed reading it for the most part, but a lot of it just flew over my head, and didn't satiate my desire to see the film.

Finally, after months of pestering and agreeing to give my Game Boy up for a month (they didn't like how much time I spent playing it), I was finally able to persuade my parents to take me to see it. I had never been more excited for anything in my life, and it completely lived up to the hype. That first glimpse of the Brachiosaurus was utterly amazing, and completely blew my mind. The T-Rex break out was the coolest thing I had ever seen, the Gallimimus stampede was exhilarating, everything involving the Velociraptors was terrifying, and Alan Grant was my hero. I left that theater feeling like I had won the lottery, and pulled a fast one on my parents, whom were terrified by what they saw. My obsession with the film only grew from there, and I collected all manner of memorabilia: toys, models, soundtrack, junior novel, comic books, t-shirts, etc.

February the following year I had an accident, breaking my back falling off some bleachers. According to the doctor, had it broken an inch higher or lower, I would have either been paralyzed or died. It was a really depressing time for me, being bedridden in a hospital until a special experimental back brace was made for me. I was going to miss the entire little league baseball season, and was stuck watching the same half dozen movies my family brought from home. That was until my uncle acquired a bootleg VHS of Jurassic Park from a friend of his who ran a movie theater for me. I can't even begin to describe how happy it made me, and it really helped take my mind off what could have happened to me, and what I was going to have to go through to recover. I can't imagine going through that part of my life without it.

To this day, I still watch the film on almost a weekly basis.
 
Falch said:
First movie I can remember watching in the theatre, I was 7 or so. So good.

I wish they would make JP4 already.

Be careful, you might get what you wish for

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Saw DUEL the other day and it's still as great as ever. Friggin love that movie. First time I saw it I was 6 years old - seen it like 20 times since! A TV movie too :o
 
Cheebs said:
Good movie but wouldn't rank too high in a Spielberg top list for me. Which would probably go something like (for the movies I have seen):

Let's not kid ourselves here. It's good, but not Jaws or Munich good.

1. Jaws
2. Schindler's List
3. Raiders of the Lost Ark
4. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
5. Munich
6. E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial
7. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
8. Empire of the Sun
9. Catch Me If You Can
10. Saving Private Ryan
11. Minority Report
12. Jurassic Park
13. Duel
14. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
15. The Sugarland Express
16. War of the Worlds
17. The Terminal
18. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
19. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence
20. 1941
21. The Lost World: Jurassic Park
22. Hook

IJ4 over AI and Hook? :lol
 
Mr. Sam said:
He was, like, master of the universe in some science show. It was fucking epic. He was throwing asteroids at Earth and shit. That's edutainment.
Yes, great space doco! I've actually seen the whole series twice. First was on late night tv then months later in class. Sam Neill just has such an awesome narrating voice and him playing god and destroying worlds with black holes and asteroids was epic. I've got to buy this series somewhere.
 
i've actually still got my ticket stub from the jurassic park sneak preview i went to. this has been my favorite movie ever since. i don't know if it's the best movie ever, if that makes any sense, but it is by far my favorite movie.
 
question for GAF parents - what would you consider the minimum age to watch this? I have a 5-year old girl who loves dinosaurs, and an 8-year old boy.

I watched it again last night to check things over, and its definitely a jumpy movie, with lots of scares, but its not *that* violent. Its also pretty slow for the first half. Famous rainy T-rex attack scene doesn't start until 1 hour in, but after that its pretty much non-stop thrills and scares

- 'thats a big pile of shit' is the only swear word I can remember. We avoid swearing in front of our kids, but I'm sure my elder son knows them. Don't fancy my daughter repeating them
- guy in toilet gets eaten by T-rex, but no blood or bits go flying
- Samuel L Jackson's arm is probably the most bloody and in your face, and it goes on for quite a few seconds.
- kids in jeep with sunroof being nearly eaten by T-rex.

I think overall though its the amount of shocks and especially those shocks often involving the kids being in peril that mean they might need to wait a few years. Plus the girl does a terrified face really bloody well.
 
Dabookerman said:
I'm just watching the making of, and it's amazing to see how primitive the software they used to do all the CGI.

Amazing stuff man.
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Bow motherfuckers, bow.

mrklaw said:
question for GAF parents - what would you consider the minimum age to watch this? I have a 5-year old girl who loves dinosaurs, and an 8-year old boy.

I watched it again last night to check things over, and its definitely a jumpy movie, with lots of scares, but its not *that* violent.
Which is why I hated it. The book was raw, bloody and visceral, whereas the movie ended up being a terror film for kids. I walked out immensely disappointed, and I must say that Spielberg was a GOD to me. I think he began to lose his edge around that time.
 
I was six when I saw it, it was the most awesome thing I'd seen at the time, but the bit with the raptors and the kids hiding in the kitchen scared me a little, nothing really bad though. It's an incredible kids film.
 
In terms of film, what they did with the T-Rex was impressive, and the Raptors.

I watched it as a kid a lot, but I don't think I have any mad itch to rewatch it again.
 
I watched the trilogy a few months ago.

They all still look fucking phenomenal. I was expecting to go in noticing all sorts of fuzzy and dated graphics. Like a lot of people, I was blown away that this is actually a 15-year-old movie. That T-Rex is still the best looking computer generated thing ever made.

The movie itself is definitely '90s Spielberg, though. I can look past it I guess because of nostalgia, but I imagine anyone watching it for the first time now would wonder why anyone else gives a shit other than the T-Rex scenes.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I watched the trilogy a few months ago.

They all still look fucking phenomenal. I was expecting to go in noticing all sorts of fuzzy and dated graphics. Like a lot of people, I was blown away that this is actually a 15-year-old movie. That T-Rex is still the best looking computer generated thing ever made.

The movie itself is definitely '90s Spielberg, though. I can look past it I guess because of nostalgia, but I imagine anyone watching it for the first time now would wonder why anyone else gives a shit other than the T-Rex scenes.

Completely destroys all CGI today. Animatronics is a lost art these days. It brought us the awesome live action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and the amazing dinosaurs from Jurassic Park.

CGI really has been a step backwards for this decade. Things like the dinosaur chase in King Kong remake just make me cringe at how awful they are. Might as well just show the green screen with filler "Dinosaurs here!" text super-imposed.
 
The thing about the CG in Jurassic Park is really the animation. The textures unfortunately do not stand the test of time. But the animation was just so well done, and really, the dinosaurs are not made to do ridiculous things like what CG is used for most of the time today. Usually CG looks the most credible when they just do the most basic things.

The T-Rex in JP animated a lot like a predator today would move and attack, and it's this attention to detail that really sells it. In King Kong, the Dinos were doing really over the top things, the whole stampede would never happen, especially the dinos of that size. That's my view on it anyway.

Also.. Rain seems to make everything look good ;p
 
Dabookerman said:
The thing about the CG in Jurassic Park is really the animation. The textures unfortunately do not stand the test of time. But the animation was just so well done, and really, the dinosaurs are not made to do ridiculous things like what CG is used for most of the time today. Usually CG looks the most credible when they just do the most basic things.

The T-Rex in JP animated a lot like a predator today would move and attack, and it's this attention to detail that really sells it. In King Kong, the Dinos were doing really over the top things, the whole stampede would never happen, especially the dinos of that size. That's my view on it anyway.

Also.. Rain seems to make everything look good ;p

That's pretty much it. I totally agree.
 
Seen the film loads and went to the cinema multiple times. It was great. I haven't seen it in a while but I'll be certain to pick it up on Blu-ray whenever that day happens...
 
bengraven said:
The fact that we haven't got a recent, commercial release of a JP FPS is atrocious. Now is the time, now is the technology, fucking make it. Take Far Cry 2, add jungles and dinosaurs and set it on Site B/Isla Sorna. Let me find amber and dinosaur eggs. Let me drive in first person like FC2, with a side mirror that's reflective so as to see the dinosaur's jaws as they come toward me. Let me have a Winnebago with armor and a science kit inside to be my safehouse and have it be attacked by a Spinosaurus toward the end, forcing me to hoof it on foot. Let me call in new vehicles and health/food/weapons via cell phone. Let me choose my side: Biosyn mercs that airlift baby dinos to the mailand and shoot anyone on sight or InGen conservationists who collect scientific data.

Make it so, very quickly. I hunger for this game.

This is a brilliant idea!
 
Cheebs said:
In what ways? And don't say its cause of JP, it's a 90's generation only thing to list JP near the top.

SPR should be higher on the list. Crystal Skull much lower. Empire of the Sun and Catch me if you Can lower. WotW higher.

Jonm1010 said:
This is a brilliant idea!

I wish more people felt that way. :(

Jurassic Park by all rights is the most abused franchise. It's sci-fi mixed with dinosaurs mixed with adventure mixed with survival horror and it works. What's the problem, Universal?
 
Jurassic Park is perfection. I don't understand the "meh" comments.

It's a fantastic film. I still am in awe of the special effects. I feel that we rediscovered dinosaurs the same moment the characters did on the film. An amazing feeling, soundtrack and all.

Plus, it's one of the few epic movies that doesn't have a love story intertwined in the story. That's tough to do.
 
Just finished watching all three of them back to back. Cameron, Bay, Nolan (yes even Nolan) take a LOOK, THIS is what you STILL haven't surpassed. It's funny, supposedly CGI has gotten "better" these days with new techniques but the T-Rexes in all 3 movies absolutely smokes the movies that release today. :lol Pathetic. It's like inventing a car and going back and using a horse carriage.
 
NightBlade88 said:
Avatar's CGI is amazing, but not "OMFG it looks so REAL!!" amazing.
I totally disagree, well, I don't, in that it doesn't all look 'real', but then, neither does JP, but Avatar is a lot closer to it. There are digital environments I could mistake for being real for sure, all of it that looks like places on earth pretty much, the fantasy locations, no matter how good they looked I wouldn't say they looked real.
 
NightBlade88 said:
Just finished watching all three of them back to back. Cameron, Bay, Nolan (yes even Nolan) take a LOOK, THIS is what you STILL haven't surpassed. It's funny, supposedly CGI has gotten "better" these days with new techniques but the T-Rexes in all 3 movies absolutely smokes the movies that release today. :lol Pathetic. It's like inventing a car and going back and using a horse carriage.
Nolan prefers using limited CG and his two action films look fantastic.
Cameron practically invented CG films.
Michael Benjamin Bay (born February 17, 1965) is an American film director and producer.

You are very wrong.
 
SanjuroTsubaki said:
Cameron practically invented CG films.
Yes, what Cameron did with T2, and Aliens, was fantastic, revolutionary even. But JP's Dinos looked more real than anything at the time, and still do now. Because the fact that these creatures once lived adds to illusion of realism.
 
NightBlade88 said:
Yes, what Cameron did with T2, and Aliens, was fantastic, revolutionary even. But JP's Dinos looked more real than anything at the time, and still do now. Because the fact that these creatures once lived adds to illusion of realism.
JP's dinos were mostly animatronic. The quality was greatly reduced with each sequel in my opinion.
 
SanjuroTsubaki said:
JP's dinos were mostly animatronic. The quality was greatly reduced with each sequel in my opinion.
*nods* I agree, but you couldn't tell what was animatronic and what was CGI most of the time unless you looked REALLY hard. I honestly think movies today should use animatronics and CGI to make it better overall. But I agree it did drop in quality.
 
NightBlade88 said:
*nods* I agree, but you couldn't tell what was animatronic and what was CGI most of the time unless you looked REALLY hard. I honestly think movies today should use animatronics and CGI to make it better overall. But I agree it did drop in quality.
How long has it been since you saw the film? It's no where near as convincing as I think you think it is. The difference between the CG and the puppets is pretty clear.

I agree with your thoughts about how it's easier to appreciate the realism of something like a dinosaur over a Na'vi for example, but that's why it's better to judge something like that based on the 'real' things in newer films. The forrest in Avatar blows away anything in JP. And it's not surprising given the amount of time between them. I imagine when Spielberg does another similar film, he'll do something very cool with it.
 
stuburns said:
How long has it been since you saw the film? It's no where near as convincing as I think you think it is. The difference between the CG and the puppets is pretty clear.

I agree with your thoughts about how it's easier to appreciate the realism of something like a dinosaur over a Na'vi for example, but that's why it's better to judge something like that based on the 'real' things in newer films. The forrest in Avatar blows away anything in JP. And it's not surprising given the amount of time between them. I imagine when Spielberg does another similar film, he'll do something very cool with it.
The Forest in Avatar blows away every thing that's ever been created on a computer. :P I saw the film just a few minutes ago as I pointed out in an earlier post. I was watching on surround sound, and was taken back to '93, so I guess, you could say I was sucked in and didn't look for faults.
 
CharlieDigital said:
The T-Rex "rain scene" was done with an animatronic.

Both.

And to the people who are saying the CG is still better than most movies today.

No it is not, it isn't better. The technology has vastly improved, and there is no arguing with that. It's what you do with that technology ;p
 
Cheebs said:
Good movie but wouldn't rank too high in a Spielberg top list for me. Which would probably go something like (for the movies I have seen):

Let's not kid ourselves here. It's good, but not Jaws or Munich good.

1. Jaws
2. Schindler's List
3. Raiders of the Lost Ark
4. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
5. Munich
6. E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial
7. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
8. Empire of the Sun
9. Catch Me If You Can
10. Saving Private Ryan
11. Minority Report
12. Jurassic Park
13. Duel
14. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
15. The Sugarland Express
16. War of the Worlds
17. The Terminal
18. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
19. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence
20. 1941
21. The Lost World: Jurassic Park
22. Hook

Close Encounters is way too high.. have you watched that recently? its aged terribly.
 
Kastro said:
Close Encounters is way too high.. have you watched that recently? its aged terribly.
His whole damn lists needs to be re worked. :lol. Jaws over Schindler's List? For me it would be

1)Schindler's List
2)Raiders of the Lost Ark
3)Saving Private Ryan
4)Jurassic Park
5)ET
6)Hook
7)Jaws
8)AI
9)Munich
10)Land Before Time
11)Everything else is just irrelevant.
 
The Wispy Scoundrel said:
Don't ... just don't. I try not to think about it because deep down I know it will never come.

:(

I've been in pain for 24 hours just thinking of it.

Coming out of a maintenance shed and reloading your shotgun with the shells you found inside to find a raptor in the trees ahead of you, staring. You click right mouse button quickly to pull up your iron sights but are suddenly critically attacked by the two raptors you didn't see coming from either side of you.

Clever girls.
 
Funny, I started reading the book some weeks ago and really liked it until Malcom goes on on all those rants about how science sucks. Then I lost interest and stopped reading. Maybe it reminded me too much of all the "global warming is a scam, Jesus rode a raptor, lol" people.

But I really, REALLY cringe when I think about the things you could do nowadays with animatronics. Loaded with chips and cotrolled per wi-fi and possibly mo-cap (from animals), made from compound materials for really huge ones and sweet, sweet love ;_;

Also the stop motion in the making of really impressed me, I never knew they could get it to be better than most cgi stuff. Just wow. I just remember the hilarious looking ones from Terminator or Robocop:lol

CGI isn´t bad IMO, but many film makers seem to get lazy because of it and it shows in the end.
 
Dabookerman said:
I'm just watching the making of, and it's amazing to see how primitive the software they used to do all the CGI.

Amazing stuff man.
I remember they used Amiga based LightWave 3D to do pre-visualization work and thinking "fuuu, they used my home computer to make Jurassic Park."
 
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