InfiniteBento
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Tried listening to his album the other the day and it just doesn't click with me for some reason. I don't understand the hype either, OP. Maybe I should give it another listen and skip the more popular songs.
Kendrick Lamar hype.... I don't get it.
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Snowman Prophet of Doom
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http://mic.com/articles/113046/11-b...-prove-he-s-the-most-visionary-man-in-hip-hop
Take your pick. The whole album is full of corny, badly-written, intellectually laughable lines. And this is an article that's trying to PRAISE him!
Why would you even try to compare them like that? Mos is coming from an entirely different aspect than Kendrick.
As I said earlier in the thread, my point in comparing them is to point out how far behind in intelligence, depth, and wit the so-called best of modern hip-hop are when compared to an album that came out 16 years ago. Obviously, they're very different artists, but that doesn't preclude comparison. Yasujiro Ozu was a very different artist from Ridley Scott, directing different kinds of films in a different era on a different continent, but Ozu was far and away the superior artist in every respect.
I didn't compare him to Oprah, but to an Oprah book. Oprah's Book Club was notorious for promoting facile, easily-digestible crap that trivialized important subjects via the poorness of their writing. I said that Kendrick was like this "much of the time", thereby granting him his few moments of glory while still capturing the reality that, more often than not, the dude is just preachy and obvious - as captured in the lyrics in the link, above, and plenty others on the album.
breakfuss
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BWHAHAHA What? People rely on the mainstream way too much. Plenty of rappers have things to say.
There are plenty of better lyricists than Kendrick, too. He is a good artist though, but I also feel he is overrated.
While the glibness of his observations and the quality of his writing are clearly just not something we can come to an agreement on, I think you're flatly wrong on how easily his words can be digested. In the article you posted alone there are multiple viewpoints and semi-contradictory statements. Maybe you puzzled them together swiftly for yourself and it all persisted in seeming shallow, but that people are debating and will surely continue to debate exactly what kendrick is stating about power and rap culture and how to grow from here demonstrates the album can't be so universally reduced. TPAB is not The Help
breakfuss
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I like that he went all in. I mean he even took out the nice radio friendly version of I. I can't imagine the pressure of having all of the race relations stuff thrust in your lap and knowing that so many people are going to form their opinions on the situation based on how he reacts. I think he handled it the best way possible. Looking back to blackploitation, looking forward to the violence that may come, accepting some responsibility as a public figure while also putting some of the responsibility back on the listeners. He managed to do it without sounding preachy or cheesy. Using influences from decades worth of black music, he weighed in on the subject as honestly as he could but ultimately left the question of how to proceed going forward up to listeners to answer. I don't think that works as well if people can just find a radio friendly single to cling on to and ignore the rest of the album.
nelsonroyale
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This is the best Lamar tune I have heard...remixed by 20syl (who is amazing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LJbNSZ_X0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LJbNSZ_X0
I can never understand what some people define as corny. Sometimes I tend to think all hip hop is corny with the way some people on here use the word.
I didnt even catch that. Ill sit in my corner with my dunce hat on now.
My apologies.
in this instance "I don't like thing" = corny
The way I see it is goofy as fuck.
PhoenixDark
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go listen to some funk lmao
If anything this album exposed how musically illiterate people are beyond contemporary rap, pop, rock, etc.
To OP: it's hype. That's it. If enough people hype something, or someone, it gets huge.
I like, like two songs by Kendrick Lamar: "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe" and "I", but i like 'em because of the the melody, the tunes - not the lyrics. If i had the instrumentals i'd most likely listen to those, instead of the "lyrical versions".
I like, like two songs by Kendrick Lamar: "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe" and "I", but i like 'em because of the the melody, the tunes - not the lyrics. If i had the instrumentals i'd most likely listen to those, instead of the "lyrical versions".
Only musically? He's referencing a somewhat well known book too.
haven't you guys heard? if you don't like something it's unquestionably:
shit
trash
awful
corny
and if someone actually likes something you don't they're:
dick riders
bandwagoners
fools
not true fans
and the person who's work you don't like? well they might as well set themselves on fire and jump off a building cause they're everything that's wrong with the world today.
shit
trash
awful
corny
and if someone actually likes something you don't they're:
dick riders
bandwagoners
fools
not true fans
and the person who's work you don't like? well they might as well set themselves on fire and jump off a building cause they're everything that's wrong with the world today.
Feel the Swift
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King Kunta is a fucking jam, fuck your opinion OP.
RealityPales
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I'm inclined to agree with OP - wasn't feeling To Pimp a Butterfly.
Not a big fan of it.
Not a big fan of it.
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