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Kickstarter: Divinity: Original Sin 2 [Over, $2 million funded]

I really do hope Larian can get a significant final 3 day bump. I've seen a few Kickstarters this year that didn't manage to get any increased funding in the last few days. Hopefully that doesn't happen here.
 
spindoctor said:
I really do hope Larian can get a significant final 3 day bump. I've seen a few Kickstarters this year that didn't manage to get any increased funding in the last few days. Hopefully that doesn't happen here.
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They need to get people excited again because at this rate, there is no way that they'll get to Game Master Mode ($2 million). I think they'll be lucky to get Shapeshifting Mask ($1.85 million), tbh. There's always enhanced edition. :/
 
spindoctor said:
I really do hope Larian can get a significant final 3 day bump. I've seen a few Kickstarters this year that didn't manage to get any increased funding in the last few days. Hopefully that doesn't happen here.
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Yea Bard's Tale IV for example didn't manage to garner much of an end campaign bump.

CRPG fans seem to be tightening up their purse strings. You'd think after a 15 year long decline they'd be more anxious to support this stuff.

Ah well, Divinity still blew it's funding goal out of the water so I guess grousing about it is silly.
 
Sinatar said:
Yea Bard's Tale IV for example didn't manage to garner much of an end campaign bump.

CRPG fans seem to be tightening up their purse strings. You'd think after a 15 year long decline they'd be more anxious to support this stuff.
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I strongly doubted the cred of most vocal CRPG proponents anyways. It felt like their life started at BG2.
 
Sinatar said:
Yea Bard's Tale IV for example didn't manage to garner much of an end campaign bump.

CRPG fans seem to be tightening up their purse strings. You'd think after a 15 year long decline they'd be more anxious to support this stuff.

Ah well, Divinity still blew it's funding goal out of the water so I guess grousing about it is silly.
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I disagree. In Bard's Tale case, it's a niche within a niche, InXile has yet to deliver their second KS game, and a lot of people didn't like Wasteland 2.

As for D:OS, it's a successful campaign, no doubt it. I think the main reason it wasn't considerably more successful was out of their hands, which is the fact the percentage of players who actually finished D:OS is very low (6% on Steam). PoE was brand new, TToN is supposed to be a spiritual successor, and WL2 was a sequel to such an old game that it was basically new for everyone.
There was nothing Larian could do it about it, honestly. They're releasing an enhanced edition and that's one the downsides that come with it. There's also the romance stretch goal, which really didn't please the CRPG crowd and prevents a lot of them from upgrading their pledges (myself included).
 
The whole Romance and Such goal really seems like an excuse many were waiting for to gin up some doom & gloom---ties into that likely lack of cred given the above or Dragon Age/Mass Effect seem to be the only vector of baseless attacks they have to work with.

It is more important for many to maintain their self-afflicted status as grizzled curmudgeons that can't get The Good Old Times* that only they could possibly know and/or gatekeep than to actually acknowledge, and support with an at least cordial benefit of the doubt, this crazy good resurgence of cRPGs and whatnot of late that is bringing all sorts to the table outright and back from being lapsed.

Larian's bound to have some stuff in the works for the final lap of it, time'll tell just what kind of final boost they can garner.
 
Fairfax said:
There's also the romance stretch goal, which really didn't please the CRPG crowd and prevents a lot of them from upgrading their pledges (myself included).
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I just don't understand this. It's not like Romances were the final stretch-goal and keeping your pledge low can now avoid them. There's two really good ones left to aim towards and we have a chance to play DMed games in a setting where romance is punishable by execution. ;)
 
Glad to see we will make it to the romance stretch goals. I love some good written romance. It just adds another emotional layer. I thought NWN did that pretty well, but sadly didn't flesh it out.

I don't really care about the other 2 stretch goals. I have no clue what "Two faces" is supposed to mean. I'd rather like to see more face presets icons.
 
Fairfax said:
I think the main reason it wasn't considerably more successful was out of their hands, which is the fact the percentage of players who actually finished D:OS is very low (6% on Steam).
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That's a sad statistic. It's kind of understandable though. The game took me about 70 hours to complete over two and a half months because I played it entirely in co-op with a friend and synchronizing real life schedules is a total pita. It did get exhausting at times. But the game was so good that it was all worth it in the end.

ElectricThunder said:
The whole Romance and Such goal really seems like an excuse many were waiting for to gin up some doom & gloom---ties into that likely lack of cred given the above or Dragon Age/Mass Effect seem to be the only vector of baseless attacks they have to work with.

It is more important for many to maintain their self-afflicted status as grizzled curmudgeons that can't get The Good Old Times* that only they could possibly know and/or gatekeep than to actually acknowledge, and support with an at least cordial benefit of the doubt, this crazy good resurgence of cRPGs and whatnot of late that is bringing all sorts to the table outright and back from being lapsed.
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Everyone has their own reasons and motivations to do what they do. I have to say that I do find it slightly petty for people to want to indirectly 'punish' Larian for suggesting that they would add romances. I don't understand the chain of thought that goes along with it. "I hope they get less money so that they make a lesser game and hopefully they don't implement an optional feature that I don't like"?

Where did this backlash against RPG romances come from anyway? Is it entirely because of Bioware? Because their writing has been a shitshow for years now.

This bias against romances sounds like the complaints of people who say that they don't want their science fiction to contain religious themes. Like it or not, sci fi has always been steeped in themes of social inequalities, religion, ecology etc. You can't just rip something out of the genre entirely because of some instances where it was poorly handled.
 
Yeah, I'd reckon the outstanding majority of it is purely vs Bioware in the guise that including it cheapens and dumbs down the game's experience via wasted money and dev time because that is totally how it works guyz~

Probably there's some correlation on the likes of this and nudity/sexual scenes outright/minority representation outright that are all newly "dramatic" vectors in sci-fi and fantasy anything of late as some vocal mobs want nothing more than The Good Old Days right on down the stereotypical formulas. Amusing especially considering such a "metric driven" approach is what led pubs and devs alike to vacate from proper cRPGs outright for so many years much to lament...

I mean, this is even discounting that "Romance" is only part of the goal---I'd expect them to frankly have more room to work with on the Rivalry and such aspects really.
 
As of this post, 1,858 people are very disappointed in the latest KS update.


I wonder what origin Avellone will write? Undead is my hope.
 
Swen needs that shapeshifting mask, you guys.

We all do.
Durante said:
I just backed the physical KS edition via Paypal, do we know what's the total there so far?

No, you'll have to find a way to change the font size ;)
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Paypal's around 10k.
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We’ve had a good few questions about how our PayPal fundraising is going, and the answer is: It’s going well! We’re currently at $9885 raised through PayPal, and while these totals don’t show up on our Kickstarter page, they will ultimately go toward any stretch goals on the last horizon. To pledge via PayPal, click here or on the button below!
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I still think it should be possible to do a pretty damn good M&M like game even with the sales expectations you can have from M&MX. Not with "AAA" polish of course, but also not just at a garage indie level.

foobarry81 said:
There's a physical edition?
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Well, it gives you physical stuff, including a cloth map. I love cloth maps.

No game disc, but I really don't care about that one (I don't even have a disc drive in my current PC).
 
I've seen this guy's name before on other Kickstarters. He seems very popular. Will he be writing the story or just some minor characters?
 
Praise the Codex and MCA. Didn't see this one coming anymore, at least not this way.
Oh well, just when I thought I wouldn't upgrade my pledge, they pull me back in.. too bad my currency is worth shit at the moment (also devalued another 15% just during the campaign so far) and a good tier would make me bankrupt.

Here's the link to the full update #13, by the way.

epmode said:
Not a stretch goal! That Bard's Tale failure must've really shaken him up.
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That was InXile who placed him as a stretch goal and it ended up being too high. He already said he's up for that stuff stretch goal or not, and that he even worked for free on FTL.
 
I love MCA and all, but I really want him to do his own Kickstarter as the lead, rather than him doing trivial parts in other people's projects.
 
Llyranor said:
I love MCA and all, but I really want him to do his own Kickstarter as the lead, rather than him doing trivial parts in other people's projects.
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It doesn't seem to be a trivial part at all, which is suprising considering the game's advanced production.

As for his own KS, rumor has it that it'll be Van Buren, as MCA did in fact discuss making a spiritual successor thing with Brian Fargo and the latter decided to register the trademark afterwards.
 
Fairfax said:
too bad my currency is worth shit at the moment (also devalued another 15% just during the campaign so far) and a good tier would make me bankrupt.
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This is a real issue. China is dragging down the currencies of virtually every country in the world right now. We'll all end up paying more when the pledge is finally collected than we were going to when we actually pledged a month ago.

So... all you guys who deal with US dollars natively need to step up :P
 
Didn't see that one coming! I wonder if that means the tone of the game will be fairly different from the goofiness of the original.
 
Just backed the Divine Hoodie Redux II pack on Paypal, really looking forward to play that game, the art is magnificent.
 
After everything that supposedly went on between Avellone and Obisdian during Pillars, I'm not getting my hopes up in Avellone joining the writing staff. Who knows how much he will contribute.

Plus, I'm backing like 5 or 6 other kickstarters right now so I don't really have the money to spare or I would increase my pledge.
 
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