KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW

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Shipment was designed to be a rush,

and even with that, if you have a working team you can strategies a victory in whatever mode you play on that map.
 
My Arms Your Hearse said:
Damn, you bring up an excellent point I failed to mention in my original post (there are sooooo many horrible things to cover).

The lock on. It's soooo cheap. It's actually one of the dumbest things about the game.
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I still think for the KZ2 beta it makes a difference if your team knows what they're doing, you can always quit out and rejoin the "right team" if you find your team is littered with n00bz. >:3
 
if you have resistance 2 or cod world at war or anything else this month i warn you people DO NOT PLAY THE KZ2 beta.

this game blows away everything that is out right and will ever come out. and the gameplay is very addictive the same way that COD4 was nicknamed Crack of Duty KZ2 will be name: Krackzone 2.:D
 
kenta said:
Getting pretty irritated by the stats bug, but mostly because nobody at GG has said anything about it on the beta forums.* Are the stats down for the rest of the beta? Are we all locked to our current progress? Is it a bug that's known and being worked on? What's the deal here?

(*) As far as I can see. The forums are so freaking slow and horrible to use it's not very easy to see all the updates they give unless they sticky a new thread about it
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You don't really lose stats per se, they just get delayed for some reason, I once had to go back to private but then the next time I log on I got back to sarge major
 
Kittonwy said:
You don't really lose stats per se, they just get delayed for some reason, I once had to go back to private but then the next time I log on I got back to sarge major
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My stats haven't updated since late last week, I should be about 75 points higher than I am right now but I'm not going back into the game until it's fixed. As painful as that is, I just can't stand losing progress
 
I didn't think splitscreen had either been confirmed or denied?
If it hasn't been officially confirmed that there won't be any, can we people stop whining?

I wish (and hope) the game has dedicated hosting. Like COD4, i guess they're expecting too many people and thus are going to use P2P.. but i am from AU and have to play on EU/US to find people at any time and it sucks because it lags quite a bit.
Same with the UI for finding games and the menus. Hopefully it's speedy.
 
AranhaHunter said:
No split screen either? WTF? This has been my only gripe with the game.
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They had to leave it out, i.o. to polish the game and finish it on time for February 2009. IIRC what motherh has said.


@test_account
I have sent you a PM, didn't want to put a discussion which has nothing to do with KZ2 into this thread.
 
Puck said:
I didn't think splitscreen had either been confirmed or denied?
If it hasn't been officially confirmed that there won't be any, can we people stop whining?

I wish (and hope) the game has dedicated hosting. Like COD4, i guess they're expecting too many people and thus are going to use P2P.. but i am from AU and have to play on EU/US to find people at any time and it sucks because it lags quite a bit.
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It has been officially confirmed that the game will not have split-screen. Peeps need to vent and stamp their feet about it and move on
 
Kittonwy said:
I still think for the KZ2 beta it makes a difference if your team knows what they're doing, you can always quit out and rejoin the "right team" if you find your team is littered with n00bz. >:3
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Pretty stupid that people do that, stack a team to win or just pick the faction with most high-ranks. Many times you can get twice as much points on the loosing side than the top player on the winning side, more competition on each kill for them - more 4-kills-rocket situation for us/me. :P

Love the assault class when that happens. :)
 
kenta said:
It has been officially confirmed that the game will not have split-screen.
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Ahh. Do you have a link?
I remember the reason why IG didn't put it into R2 is because they wouldn't have been able to use 'magic' (cheap tricks) to make the game look and play better. And they wouldn't have had the resources, too.
 
fps fanatic said:
Just want to say, you're a beast at this game! I checked my stats for the beta so far and my k/d ratio sucks. You've got some skills at this game. ;) I haven't played in a bit cause the game just kept freezing on me. :( I'm gonna try again tonight...
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Ha thanx man. As I said before tho, I do think "Mr_nothing" is probably more skilled than I, tho I need to see him play for myself ;). I havn't been playing too much recently either, my stats havn't updated since they added the honours. I just tried to play now and it froze twice. oh well, that's what betas are for, to find bugs. They let too many ppl in that's the problem ;)

Oh and about those screens, they were too big to upload anywhere and Megaupload wouldn't let me upload an entire folder for some reason so this is the best I could do :lol

http://www.megaupload.com/?f=0RGM5I8A

Does that work? Yeah I suck. The one with the mech tho, looks like CG. Unbelievable.

I took more but coudn't be bother to upload them! I'll just enjoy them myself!

edit: is it just me or does that link look like it's almost saying "orgasm" ?
 
jett said:
:lol Get the fuck out.
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So you're ok with not having split screen, even when it seems like all of the 360s big games have it?

This is the sole reason I'm even buying World at War, because I have nothing to play on the PS3 when my friends come over. We're all sick of Resistance 1 and CoD4.

What is the reason for not including it? The graphics are too good? It's been a fundamentla staple since Goldeneye to have multiplayer on console FPSs.

Split screen online is good, but that begs the question...why no splitscreen offline?
 
Pojo said:
So you're ok with not having split screen, even when it seems like all of the 360s big games have it?

This is the sole reason I'm even buying World at War, because I have nothing to play on the PS3 when my friends come over. We're all sick of Resistance 1 and CoD4.

What is the reason for not including it? The graphics are too good? It's been a fundamentla staple since Goldeneye to have multiplayer on console FPSs.

Split screen online is good, but that begs the question...why no splitscreen offline?
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Bioshock
 
The mistake was clearly not allowing me to play the game against a friend who is at my house in the comfort of my own living room, which I've been doing since Goldeneye and am currently doing in Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4.
 
Pojo said:
The mistake was clearly not allowing me to play the game against a friend who is at my house in the comfort of my own living room, which I've been doing since Goldeneye and am currently doing in Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4.
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We are crystal clear then.

-1 sales from you. Move along.
 
Pojo said:
So you're ok with not having split screen, even when it seems like all of the 360s big games have it?
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I hate split-screen, and with the advent of online-enabled multiplayer on consoles, have no use for it, so yes, I'm okay with it. :P
 
Pojo said:
The mistake was clearly not allowing me to play the game against a friend who is at my house in the comfort of my own living room, which I've been doing since Goldeneye and am currently doing in Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4.
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Continue playing Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, cross Killzone 2 off your list, and please leave us alone then dude
 
I just want to know why. For all the technical wizardry that Guerilla is exhibiting, this is a strange decision.

If it's something like "the maps are too big for 2-4 players", at least let it be known.
 
My Arms Your Hearse said:
What the fuck is the problem with sony-exclusive FPS and horrible/broken/buggy stat tracking?

IS IT SO HARD?
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*looks at Killzone 2 Beta*

oh look, it's a BETA

Pojo said:
I just want to know why. For all the technical wizardry that Guerilla is exhibiting, this is a strange decision.

If it's something like "the maps are too big for 2-4 players", at least let it be known.
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dude, no one here knows why. Only person that knows is senior management at Sony/GG, and they'ren ot gonna say it. So until someone who worked on the game says it, no one knows
 
Pojo said:
I just want to know why. For all the technical wizardry that Guerilla is exhibiting, this is a strange decision.

If it's something like "the maps are too big for 2-4 players", at least let it be known.
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Look at the engine. Who cares? Don't buy the game and miss out on a stellar SP and MP experience.
 
Pojo said:
I just want to know why. For all the technical wizardry that Guerilla is exhibiting, this is a strange decision.

If it's something like "the maps are too big for 2-4 players", at least let it be known.
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They throw around a lot of geometry. Maybe at this level of detail its simply not stable to try to have splitscreen. They could gimp visuals to make it work probably but I think that's not what they are shooting for.

In fact... have you tried the beta yet? After trying it you might still want splitscreen but you most certainly won't want them to change the visuals.
 
Pojo said:
I just want to know why. For all the technical wizardry that Guerilla is exhibiting, this is a strange decision.

If it's something like "the maps are too big for 2-4 players", at least let it be known.
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The game is vastly superior to any other shooter on consoles. The game in total package/presentation as a fps challenges Crysis. I'm sure GG has a reason for it. 360 can have all the split-screen mp in the world far as I care since online mp is the way to be. But if you're worried about appeasing friends when they come over, perhaps the wii is an even better choice for you.

Only of the impersonal, lonely variety.
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32ppl > 2ppl.
 
UntoldDreams said:
In fact... have you tried the beta yet? After trying it you might still want splitscreen but you most certainly won't want them to change the visuals.
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Inorder to allow my to play it, yes I would. I've been "putting up" with that for years now.

The game is vastly superior to any other shooter on consoles. The game in total package/presentation as a fps challenges Crysis. I'm sure GG has a reason for it. 360 can have all the split-screen mp in the world far as I care since online mp is the way to be. But if you're worried about appeasing friends when they come over, perhaps the wii is an even better choice for you.
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So wanting to play games while friends are over is a crime now? Why not just make Rock Band online only? Or Smash Brothers? Mario Kart! Who needs friends!
 
I could care less about split screen MP or SP for that matter. Not that it isn't a nice feature, but when I play this game I want all of it's glory covering every inch of my TV screen. :D
 
Pojo said:
I just want to know why. For all the technical wizardry that Guerilla is exhibiting, this is a strange decision.

If it's something like "the maps are too big for 2-4 players", at least let it be known.
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I don't think split-screen is as easy to do as most of you guys assume. It's evident in games like RB6 Vegas, were the split-screen visuals are abysmal compared to SP and MP... it's practically unplayable.

Not sure why some games can pull it off and others can't.... but the fact that some don't indicates it's not an easy thing to do.
 
Pojo said:
So you're ok with not having split screen, even when it seems like all of the 360s big games have it?

This is the sole reason I'm even buying World at War, because I have nothing to play on the PS3 when my friends come over. We're all sick of Resistance 1 and CoD4.

What is the reason for not including it? The graphics are too good? It's been a fundamentla staple since Goldeneye to have multiplayer on console FPSs.

Split screen online is good, but that begs the question...why no splitscreen offline?
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Big 360 games this season
Gears 2- 2 player split screen
BK: N&B- 4 player split screen
L4D- 2 Player split screen

Big PS3 games this season
R2- 2 player split screen
LBP- 4 player on one screen
Motorstorm: PR- 4 player split screen

Yea, I see what you mean. Whats with all those "big ps3 games" not having any split screen!?

Oh, and you don't have Warhawk? Fail!
 
Pojo said:
Inorder to allow my to play it, yes I would. I've been "putting up" with that for years now.

So wanting to play games while friends are over is a crime now? Why not just make Rock Band online only? Or Smash Brothers? Mario Kart! Who needs friends!
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Emphasis mine.

You can go away now.
 
recklessmind said:
I don't think split-screen is as easy to do as most of you guys assume. It's evident in games like RB6 Vegas, were the split-screen visuals are abysmal compared to SP and MP... it's practically unplayable.

Not sure why some games can pull it off and others can't.... but the fact that some don't indicates it's not an easy thing to do.
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Just draw a line down the middle and copy and paste the guy. lrn2developgames noob.
 
recklessmind said:
I don't think split-screen is as easy to do as most of you guys assume. It's evident in games like RB6 Vegas, were the split-screen visuals are abysmal compared to SP and MP... it's practically unplayable.

Not sure why some games can pull it off and others can't.... but the fact that some don't indicates it's not an easy thing to do.
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That's just the thing, though. I loved R1 multiplayer, so imagine my surprise when I couldn't find the split screen option in R2. Why? Insomniac won't give me a clear answer.
 
Q: But my question is WHY was it decided to inlcude offline against bots but not a 2 player splitscreen like killzone 1 with bots? 2 player splitscreen offline with bots in kz1 was one of my favourite features of kz1. Just me and my brother killing bots. Is it a technical problem, or was it just decided not important enough? Because offline competitive is really important to alot of people.

Thanks for your time to respond to all of these, Seb.

A: Sorry, there is no split-screen I am afraid. The amount of work out-weighed the benefits. Would have delayed the game too much.

Seb Downie - QA Manager - Guerrilla Games
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Got it ?..
 
Pojo said:
Inorder to allow my to play it, yes I would. I've been "putting up" with that for years now.

So wanting to play games while friends are over is a crime now? Why not just make Rock Band online only? Or Smash Brothers? Mario Kart! Who needs friends!
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dude. Do you not read? It's something along the line of visuals. The best possible explanation is that making it split screen could cause a drop in visual/frame rates that the dev deemed unacceptable for what they're trying to build.

And if you're trying to compare K2 visuals to Halo3/Gears 2 visual...well, you're gonna fail before you even begin
 
recklessmind said:
I don't think split-screen is as easy to do as most of you guys assume. It's evident in games like RB6 Vegas, were the split-screen visuals are abysmal compared to SP and MP... it's practically unplayable.

Not sure why some games can pull it off and others can't.... but the fact that some don't indicates it's not an easy thing to do.
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Is your avatar an ingame pic?
 
Nafai1123 said:
Big PS3 games this season
R2- 2 player split screen
LBP- 4 player on one screen
Motorstorm: PR- 4 player split screen

Yea, I see what you mean. Whats with all those "big ps3 games" not having any split screen!?
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Resistance 2 has split screen multiplayer? Yes, it has co-op which is made particularly difficult b/c you can only have 2 players, and one pretty much has to be a medic. At least they half-assed tried, though.

And hey, the Motorstorm guys must be improving, because Motorstorm 1 didn't have MP.

EDIT: Thank you for answering that. Now the rest of you can stop assaulting me because I pointed out a missing feature in your messiah. Hopefully, they'll patch it in when they get the time.
 
Pojo said:
I just want to know why. For all the technical wizardry that Guerilla is exhibiting, this is a strange decision.

If it's something like "the maps are too big for 2-4 players", at least let it be known.
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We had to sacrifice too many goats to get things running on one screen. We ran out of goats for two.
 
Pojo said:
Resistance 2 has split screen multiplayer? Yes, it has co-op which is made particularly difficult b/c you can only have 2 players, and one pretty much has to be a medic. At least they half-assed tried, though.

And hey, the Motorstorm guys must be improving, because Motorstorm 1 didn't have MP.

EDIT: Thank you for answering that. Now the rest of you can stop assaulting me because I pointed out a missing feature in your messiah.
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You realize that online co-op also allows for split-screen, right? If you are too good to interact with anyone other than the friend sitting next to you, you can always not use headsets.
 
Pojo said:
EDIT: Thank you for answering that. Now the rest of you can stop assaulting me because I pointed out a missing feature in your messiah.
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You're sitting there asking us why our Thanksgiving dinner doesn't have cranberry sauce, telling us cranberry sauce is essential for Thanksgiving. We're telling you to shut up about cranberry sauce because the turkey is freaking awesome and nobody cares about cranberry sauce

Get off the cross, dude
 
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