KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW

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skybastos said:
If the medic is behind cover, then probably some enemy is nearby... and the enemy would see you getting up and will say:

"ooohhh a free kill sweet !"

- and you will die
- and the medic will revive you again
- and you will die again
- and the medic will revive you again
- and you will die again


at this point you will probably be cursing the medic :b
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More often than not you'll a medic reviving a team mate and someone will take both of them out. This happens a lot whenever a medic tries to revive someone during a big fire fight. They're asking for trouble when they do that as they're a sitting duck and so is the person they're reviving.
 
TTP said:
Video 2 is quite active :P
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Something I noticed from video 2:

Iron-sight isn't all that necessary for close up action. In COD4 I was basically using it 95% of the time but it seems you got a decent amount of kills without it, only using it for more distant enemies.
 
SolidSnakex said:
More often than not you'll a medic reviving a team mate and someone will take both of them out. This happens a lot whenever a medic tries to revive someone during a big fire fight. They're asking for trouble when they do that as they're a sitting duck and so is the person they're reviving.
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how are they a sitting duck? I just love the message "icechai killed ___" if you know what I mean :)
 
Private Hoffman said:
KZ2 is in a completely different league than any shooter I've played this gen. It is soo damn addicting. Typically there's some things that I hate about every shooter I play, but I absolutely love every single element KZ2 brings to the table. It is so polished. Here's how I'd rank the big ones:

KZ2 >>> Halo 3 / CoD4 > Gears 1/2 > Resistance 1/2 in terms of competitive multiplayer play

The graphics are the best on any console and by a huge margin, the controls are so damn fluid and awesome (good luck trolling the DS3 for this game, it works beautifully), the class system adds a new layer of depth to a major console shooter, the map designs are brilliant and the best I've seen in a console shooter with tons of diversity and verticality, the weapons are just ridiculously amazing with a realistic sense of weight.

Such a visceral experience all around. I have logged in 50 hours before they reset the stats, and im probably at about 20 right now after they reset them. And that's WITH ONLY 3 MAPS! I can't get enough. This is the first shooter on the PS3 that I can take seriously from a competitive and team play standpoint.

I kind of wish this were releasing now to push PS3 sales because KZ2 is a system seller and it would have definitely lifted sales this season. But, whatever, that's sales-age talk; I'm glad they'll be having even more polish for the final release, and as a gamer that's more important.
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You just said Gears 1 and competitive multiplayer. Now I know you haven't played Gears 1. There are not two more things less compatible with each other. You can't have "competitive" multiplayer with the worst netcode in the history of gaming.

Then again, in a later post, you say it takes a lot of bullets to down someone. Which tells me you have played. Because you're totally wrong. It doesn't take that many bullets to down someone. However, when you're suffering through hellacious lag and host advantage, it certainly seems like it since none of your bullets are actually registering!
 
SolidSnakex said:
More often than not you'll a medic reviving a team mate and someone will take both of them out. This happens a lot whenever a medic tries to revive someone during a big fire fight. They're asking for trouble when they do that as they're a sitting duck and so is the person they're reviving.
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I love it when an enemy medic does this. Easy kill for no work at all. Good stuff :D
 
Fersis said:
Compare R2 to K2 is unfair.
In fact compare any current shooter to K2 is unfair.

R2 is a hell of a game, filled with fun all over the place.
K2 is a technical marvel, far above of anything else. Next year is gonna be K2 year.
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I have seen the single player of both running side-by-side and visually there is just no comparison. They looked a generation apart. The beta is cool and all but the airship landing in the singleplayer really sold me on how good it looks. The lighting, post processing, audio... It just works.
 
west said:
I have seen the single player of both running side-by-side and visually there is just no comparison. They looked a generation apart. The beta is cool and all but the airship landing in the singleplayer really sold me on how good it looks. The lighting, post processing, audio... It just works.
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That is what im saying , R2 is the 'now' and K2 i the 'future' .
Oh and dont make a joke about the SNK 'The future is now' slogan. SNK was so great on his days :'(
 
I looked at some HD videos while I was bored and I had a revelation: textures are overrated. Who really cares if the concrete has a thousand bumps in it from 1 inch away. It almost looks jarringly sharp in some games. Everything is softer in Killzone, and I think the game is better for it because you can throw in more small details, things that you definitely notice (like destructible environments, particles that actually behave realistically, etc.)

I understand this is just multiplayer, but ithe SP pics don't look much different when it comes to textures, at least compared with stuff like Gears and Uncharted.
 
Pojo said:
I looked at some HD videos while I was bored and I had a revelation: textures are overrated. Who really cares if the concrete has a thousand bumps in it from 1 inch away. It almost looks jarringly sharp in some games. Everything is softer in Killzone, and I think the game is better for it because you can throw in more small details, things that you definitely notice (like destructible environments, particles that actually behave realistically, etc.)

I understand this is just multiplayer, but ithe SP pics don't look much different when it comes to textures, at least compared with stuff like Gears and Uncharted.
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You're a joke.
 
KZ2 will obviously be the "shooter to beat" and "king of console FPS" when it launches, but please, quit comparing it to other console shooters. It's just not a fair comparison.

KZ2 has been in development for over twice as long as most other "top shooters" and it's Sony's flagship baby. There's just no way you can compare this game to other games that has much less production budget, time, and development team size.
 
Maggot9 said:
oh my god fuck resistance 2
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Oh my god... shut the fuck up about Resistance 2.

It's pretty sad everyone is hating on R2. To be honest, no currently released FPS looks better than Resistance 2 on consoles.

If you don't like it, fair enough, but I'm getting pretty tired of constantly seeing 'oh r2 sux lololz'.
 
-viper- said:
Oh my god... shut the fuck up about Resistance 2.

It's pretty sad everyone is hating on R2. To be honest, no currently released FPS looks better than Resistance 2 on consoles.

If you don't like it, fair enough, but I'm getting pretty tired of constantly seeing 'oh r2 sux lololz'.
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Well here is a combobreaker:

oh r2 roxxs!
 
Seiken said:
You're a joke.
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No, the textures are. This is a fact, look at the videos. They are not detailed, at least compared to the trendy games this gen. The game looks amazing because of all the effects, which I think is better in the long run.

And I agree about Resistance 2. Nothing looks better than that right now on consoles, I'm sick of the crap.
 
Pojo said:
No, the textures are. This is a fact, look at the videos. They are not detailed, at least compared to the trendy games this gen. The game looks amazing because of all the effects, which I think is better in the long run.

And I agree about Resistance 2. Nothing looks better than that right now on consoles, I'm sick of the crap.
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You're wrong, there aren't any console games that are really much better. We had this discussion the other day, no one could provide an example that stood up.

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Pojo said:
No, the textures are. This is a fact, look at the videos. They are not detailed, at least compared to the trendy games this gen. The game looks amazing because of all the effects, which I think is better in the long run.

And I agree about Resistance 2. Nothing looks better than that right now on consoles, I'm sick of the crap.
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Well the new rule here is : 'to say something good about K2 you must bash R2'.
Stop with it. its a K2 thread ,lets talk about K2.
 
Pojo said:
No, the textures are. This is a fact, look at the videos. They are not detailed, at least compared to the trendy games this gen. The game looks amazing because of all the effects, which I think is better in the long run.

And I agree about Resistance 2. Nothing looks better than that right now on consoles, I'm sick of the crap.
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Videos? I am playing the game and the texture work is definitely on the same level as Uncharted, plus there is a lot more of it all over the place and it remains consistent up close/through a scope.
 
The graphics, the animations, the lighting, the effects, the amazing frame rate , the destructible environments, the fucking blood, the head shots...

These MP videos are fucking unbelievable.

Anyone has a spare beta code? I will give you a sealed SOCOM:Confrontation for a KZ2 beta code :D :D :D
 
the_prime_mover said:
Videos? I am playing the game and the texture work is definitely on the same level as Uncharted, plus there is a lot more of it all over the place and it remains consistent up close/through a scope.
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Since you're in the beta, can you tell me what happens to the destructible environments parts that blow up? Do they stay in the level until the round ends or do they mysteriously disappear after a few seconds?
 
jmonteiro said:
Since you're in the beta, can you tell me what happens to the destructible environments parts that blow up? Do they stay in the level until the round ends or do they mysteriously disappear after a few seconds?
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Honestly, I am not too sure what the limits of the NDA are and don't want to betray the trust that has gotten me into these various betas. However, from reading the forums it seems that the media is not under the same NDA as regular players are (thus the reason why we are getting more videos). If I am off base, and this is information that I can disclose I will be happy to do so.
 
jmonteiro said:
Since you're in the beta, can you tell me what happens to the destructible environments parts that blow up? Do they stay in the level until the round ends or do they mysteriously disappear after a few seconds?
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Small bits disappear, large bits don't. Or at least that's what it seems from the videos.
 
jmonteiro said:
Since you're in the beta, can you tell me what happens to the destructible environments parts that blow up? Do they stay in the level until the round ends or do they mysteriously disappear after a few seconds?
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heh thats goya isn't it? damn he has some pretty dark stuff
 
nelsonroyale said:
heh thats goya isn't it? damn he has some pretty dark stuff
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Yeah, I fucking love Goya during his madness period... the painting on my avatar was actually painted on one of the walls of his house and later carefully removed and put on a frame. It's at Prado in Madrid, Spain. A must see museum :)
 
jmonteiro said:
The graphics, the animations, the lighting, the effects, the amazing frame rate , the destructible environments, the fucking blood, the head shots...

These MP videos are fucking unbelievable.

Anyone has a spare beta code? I will give you a sealed SOCOM:Confrontation for a KZ2 beta code :D :D :D
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And take into account that the videos and GIFs don't do the game justice :P
 
stuburns said:
Small bits disappear, large bits don't. Or at least that's what it seems from the videos.
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I saw that too but was wondering if they will stay there all the way to the end of the round. That would be freaking amazing.
 
jmonteiro said:
I saw that too but was wondering if they will stay there all the way to the end of the round. That would be freaking amazing.
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I would guess they don't. You would really make the engine chug quite quickly.
 
stuburns said:
I would guess they don't. You would really make the engine chug quite quickly.
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Nooby question, the AAA games dont use DMA while on game right ?
 
I know there is a ton of hyperbole in this thread. But I honestly think KZ2 may be one of the best shooters I've ever played and I've only played the multiplayer. It's one of those games where everything just cohesively "clicks". It's gorgeous, it has a unique feel, it's addictive as hell, and it's got a level of polish that few games this generation have seen. I can't believe that the sequel to a shooter I absolutely despise is one of the best shooters I've played this gen. Kudos GG and SCEE.
 
Can anyone link me to the Beta forum? I wanna see what other testers are talking about....Also I don't know what those little figures are so I never know how many kills, deaths, etc I have after each round.
 
jmonteiro said:
Anyone has a spare beta code? I will give you a sealed SOCOM:Confrontation for a KZ2 beta code :D :D :D
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There were better offers like $150 for a KZ2 MP beta code ...

I can't believe I'm out of this shit ...
 
Are there any COD4-ish ''Hardcore'' modes in which you die really quickly? Or is it more a la Resistance 1 where you have to shoot someone for half an hour?
 
AranhaHunter said:
Can anyone link me to the Beta forum? I wanna see what other testers are talking about....Also I don't know what those little figures are so I never know how many kills, deaths, etc I have after each round.
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Well, only Beta members can access the forums - so a link won't help you.
 
AranhaHunter said:
Can anyone link me to the Beta forum? I wanna see what other testers are talking about....Also I don't know what those little figures are so I never know how many kills, deaths, etc I have after each round.
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Killzone.com for info. (Not the beta boards)
Plus the full leader boards are there if you want to check out stats.

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PS: I just noticed the leader boards list 84224 players? I said wow!
 
EnthusiasTech said:
There were better offers like $150 for a KZ2 MP beta code ...

I can't believe I'm out of this shit ...
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Really? I think I would sell my key for 150 bucks and then proceed to go pre order the game and buy another game and still have some money left over.
 
BruceWayneIII said:
Okay, my mistake. The link to the beta forums is in his mail, so I thought he wouldn't have to ask... Carry on :D
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Fair enough but all I did was look at that code and download the beta, I didn't really read the email lol.
 
I've been playing the single-player campaign since Tuesday, and without saying too much...this is probably the best FPS game I've ever played.
 
AlphaSnake said:
I've been playing the single-player campaign since Tuesday, and without saying too much...this is probably the best FPS game I've ever played.
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double omg

are there any doubters left? I THINK NOT
 
The single player campaign certainly is impressive. Come December 4 you guys are going to drown in your own drool (or whatever).
 
Wow at those gifs! I've been in the haters side of Killzone 2, nothing I've seen so far made me want this game, but those gifs are pretty! I'll be paying a little closer attention.

Too bad this isn't coming out in November, PS3 could really use it I think (if it turns out to be good).
 
fanduck said:
Wow at those gifs! I've been in the haters side of Killzone 2, nothing I've seen so far made me want this game, but those gifs are pretty! I'll be paying a little closer attention.

Too bad this isn't coming out in November, PS3 could really use it I think (if it turns out to be good).
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Right now the main issue is the crazy ammount of great games to play.
Im playing R2 and LBP.
 
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