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[AranhaHunter]

25 minutes? What?

I've heard they're around an hour, depending on the level.

I thought it was 11 levels, wth?

 

[MvmntInGrn]

Likely 45min-1hr long. Standard fair. Fine IMO as long as those 8-9 hours kick ass. Not like it doesn't have multiplayer.

Would I prefer 20? DUH but it doesn't surprise me. Curious, where did the 11 number come from?

 

[roMonster]

Likely 45min-1hr long. Standard fair. Fine IMO as long as those 8-9 hours kick ass. Not like it doesn't have multiplayer.

Would I prefer 20? DUH but it doesn't surprise me. Curious, where did the 11 number come from?

There are 11 levels mentioned in the trophies.

EDIT: NM I have that wrong.

 

[gantz85]

wth - only 9 levels at 25 minutes a pop?

in guerrilla games we don't trust

hey look who it is, again

 

[SSM25]

9 levels at 45 minutes each is like close to only seven hours.....that's waaaay too short

 

[MvmntInGrn]

9 levels at 45 minutes each is like close to only seven hours.....that's waaaay too short

Shortest is 45. Longest could be 1hr 30min for all we know.

Mirror's Edge is like 7, Gears 1 is like 5 I hear.

Ideal? no. Hopefully it will be 11 but either way I am expecting a good experience.

 

[Evolved1]

hey look who it is, again

You'd think with the amount of crow that's already been served up by Guerrilla, people would be slower to call them out.

Wrong bird. It's turkey day, folks... :lol

 

[SSM25]

Shortest is 45. Longest could be 1hr 30min for all we know.

Mirror's Edge is like 7, Gears 1 is like 5 I hear.

Ideal? no. Hopefully it will be 11 but either way I am expecting a good experience.

Sounds very good then, I really like the length of resistance 2's campaign and this should be around the same lenght.

Gears 1 is longer than 5, if I remember correctly.

 

[MvmntInGrn]

You'd think with the amount of crow that's already been served up by Guerrilla, people would be slower to call them out.

Wrong bird. It's turkey day, folks... :lol

Good point (about the day). about 16 hours till turkey time here. Mmmmm

Oh god yes.:lol

 

[makingmusic476]

Potential spoiler on that GameReactor cover?

Be warned, the possible spoiler has been circled:

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo15/EliteF50-2/fh-1.jpg

Spoiler

Is that Garza?

 

[My Arms Your Hearse]

Sounds very good then, I really like the length of resistance 2's campaign and this should be around the same lenght.

Gears 1 is longer than 5, if I remember correctly.

Gears of War is like 1.5/2 hours on the normal difficulty if you don't have to redo anything (maybe not even that long... seriously, it's short as hell). I mean, by what standard are we even judging "45 minutes as shortest"?

Is that what they expect on normal difficulty with the expected numbers of death/etc, or is that how long it would take to run through without dying? It's really a meaningless statement without any real information.

I mean, obviously, dying and redoing things will add "length" to a game.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

That looks weird and non-killzonish...

Holy crap, I'm intimidated! Looks pretty cool. I can't wait to see them in action.

 

[icechai]

I don't know what to say to you other than SUPER LIMITED BETA.

And newsflash: anyone who thinks they're hot shit in Beta is going to repeatedly have their ass handed to them on a silver platter once the game is released and hundreds of thousands of people are playing. You know, the people who have 300 thousand kills in COD4 with 70 days played and a 15 to 1 K/D ratio. I've never been in a single MP beta where I didn't do vastly better than in the released product. You're playing against a very small amount of people, and lots of gaming media (who are total scrubs).

I just think a 1 hit (no matter where it hits you) gun with extreme range is LOL. It's bound to dominate most of the maps unless they're specifically designed to avoid it. I hope to hell that thing is ultra hard to aim, but it's never hard to manage one measly hit, especially when the other person has no idea it's coming. One hit to the head? I'm fine with that. It takes aim and skill. In a game like this, you could argue a "heart shot" 1 hit kill. Everything else is completely lame and requires you to basically have a pusle to pull off.

And it's so easy to hunt for the hiding invisible sniper when, invariably, his entire team is between the two of you.

you keep mentioning other shooters, but in the maps so far, KZ2 has a far greater variety & vertical scale to the maps than the other shooters IMO. Snipers are pretty awesome (i've racked up some pretty high scores with them), but you have to be on the move and know the map way more than other games simply because of the size of the maps and different skirmish points. It just doesn't pay to camp in an area and snipe, especially since some Saboteur or Assault will eventually figure out the snipe points and rush over there with boost before you know they found you out. Also, not everyone is subject to 1 hit kills by sniper...

Also your thing about "hot shit" in betas don't apply to most GAFers I feel. Yeah, some GAF people were "hot shit" in Warhawk beta, and guess what? Most of the clan still gets #1 on matches when they play by themselves or with a few other clan members. From the skills seen in KZ2 beta, I feel quite a bunch of people also will be good and not get their "ass handed to them on a silver platter."

 

[WHOAguitarninja]

Gears of War is like 1.5/2 hours on the normal difficulty if you don't have to redo anything (maybe not even that long... seriously, it's short as hell).

Okay wait. This just isn't true. Gears is not a long game, but it is without a doubt not "1.5-2 hours on normal". I've heard of speedruns on casual in that time, but the game when played properly is not THAT short.

In regards to Killzone...I can't believe people are already complaining about length (or more specifically, speculating about length, and then complaining about their own speculation). Atleast wait for the NDA's on the damned previews to be lifted before you start jumping to conclusions.

 

[Mr.Squirrel]

Okay wait. This just isn't true. Gears is not a long game, but it is without a doubt not "1.5-2 hours on normal". I've heard of speedruns on casual in that time, but the game when played properly is not THAT short.

In regards to Killzone...I can't believe people are already complaining about length (or more specifically, speculating about length, and then complaining about their own speculation). Atleast wait for the NDA's on the damned previews to be lifted before you start jumping to conclusions.

Killzone's a PS3 exclusive, of course it's going to be trolled.

 

[TheMissingLink]

To those I may have team-killed tonight in the beta, my apologies.

Ran into the first really good Saboteur and he had me jumpy all night...

 

[AranhaHunter]

To those I may have team-killed tonight in the beta, my apologies.

Ran into the first really good Saboteur and he had me jumpy all night...

How was he a really good saboteur? How many team kills did you end up having?

 

[PseudoZ]

:lol :lol :lol

$5.95 PayPal for a Killzone 2 beta share.

Grasping straws, I know. But I just discovered I had $5.95 in my PayPal account. PM me!

 

[Halvie]

$30 paypal for a shared code if I can use it for a full day and it actually works

 

[Ploid 3.0]

To those I may have team-killed tonight in the beta, my apologies.

Ran into the first really good Saboteur and he had me jumpy all night...

:lol I got tricked a lot by those darn dudes. And it's creepy seeing them change or whatever it is.

 

[Cerberus]

A short single-player campaign doesn't really bother me much. Call of Duty 4's campaign lasted around 6 hours for me, but it was really intense and kickass. If Guerrilla can deliver a compelling, well-done campaign, then I'll be happy regardless of how many hours it takes to complete.

 

[JCreasy]

Hey guys, have any of you been able to get lean and peek to work?

I've been trying to based on the how it was explained in one of the early demos, but I can't get it to work.

BTW, this game owns my life right now. It's already exceeded all of my highest expectations . . .

 

[BruceWayneIII]

Hey guys, have any of you been able to get lean and peek to work?

I've been trying to based on the how it was explained in one of the early demos, but I can't get it to work.

BTW, this game owns my life right now. It's already exceeded all of my highest expectations . . .

Lean and peak is not a part of the multiplayer experience - only in single player campaign.

And yes, it's an absolutely joy to play this game. Yesterday I played another console shooter and boy do I miss the KZ2 feeling of weight and movement.

 

[-viper-]

So Killzone 2 will have a 7 hour campaign? That's great (!).

Each level better fucking take at least 1 hour to complete.

edit: If each level is 45 minutes, then K2 will take 6 hours, 45 minutes to complete.

The game has been in development for far too long, and is that all they could conjure up in that time? Only features 8 multiplayer maps as well, doesn't it? Haven't they got 200 people working on the game? It doesn't even have offline split-screen.

Killzone 1 was a far longer game than that. Still will buy it, but that is so disappointing.

 

[Private Hoffman]

So Killzone 2 will have a 7 hour campaign? That's great (!).

Each level better fucking take at least 1 hour to complete.

edit: If each level is 45 minutes, then K2 will take 6 hours, 45 minutes to complete.

The game has been in development for far too long, and is that all they could conjure up in that time? Only features 8 multiplayer maps as well, doesn't it? Haven't they got 200 people working on the game? It doesn't even have offline split-screen.

Killzone 1 was a far longer game than that. Still will buy it, but that is so disappointing.

havent we seen all of the corinth river lvl? seemed short

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

So Killzone 2 will have a 7 hour campaign? That's great (!).

Each level better fucking take at least 1 hour to complete.

edit: If each level is 45 minutes, then K2 will take 6 hours, 45 minutes to complete.

The game has been in development for far too long, and is that all they could conjure up in that time? Only features 8 multiplayer maps as well, doesn't it? Haven't they got 200 people working on the game? It doesn't even have offline split-screen.

Killzone 1 was a far longer game than that. Still will buy it, but that is so disappointing.

killzone 2 will have a 3-4hour campaign.

now i know why there's lots of dlc planned for the game - they're planning to rape your wallet with episodic chapters.

tempy?

 

[-Winnie-]

Hmm... who would pay money for DLC chapters of Killzone, but from a Helghast campaign?

I WANT TO PLAY AS HELGHAST, DAMNIT.

 

[tiddles]

Potential spoiler on that GameReactor cover?

Be warned, the possible spoiler has been circled:

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo15/EliteF50-2/fh-1.jpg

Spoiler

Is that Garza?

It's not him - it does look a bit like him because of the way they've cropped it for the cover, but it's actually supposed to be one of the generic ISA soldier types (you can just about see the goggles on the cap for example).

 

[borsdy]

http://elhabib.at/2008/11/26/welt-exklusiv-absolut-alle-trophies-von-killzone-2/


copypasta...just click the fucking link

 Collect all Kilzone 2 Trophies  Platinum 
2 Complete all missions Complete all missions on Elite difficulty level Gold 
3 Career Ribbon Achieve an online rank of General Gold 
4 Valor Grand Cross Achieve weekly online honor rank #4 Gold 
5 Maelstra Ribbon Complete Maelstra Barrens on any difficulty level Silber 
6 Survivor Complete all missons on any difficulty level Silber 
7 Valor Cross Achieve weekly online honor rank #3 Silber 
8 Corinth Ribbon Complete Corinth River on any difficuly level Bronze 
9 Blood Ribbon Complete Blood Meridian on any difficulty level Bronze 
10 Visari Ribbon Complete Visari Square on any difficulty level Bronze 
11 Salamun Ribbon Complete Salamun District on any difficulty level Bronze 
12 Bridge Ribbon Complete Salamun Bridge on any difficulty level Bronze 
13 Suljeva Ribbon Complete Suljeva Village on any difficulty level Bronze 
14 Tharsis Ribbon Complete Tharsis Refinery on any difficulty level Bronze 
15 Cruiser Ribbon Complete The Cruiser on any difficulty level Bronze 
16 Popcorn Ribbon Watch all Killzone 2 cut scenes Bronze 
17 Pallbearer – Kill 20 Helghast Kill 20 Helghast soldiers Bronze 
18 Undertaker – Kill 200 Helghast Kill 200 Helghast soldiers Bronze 
19 Reaper – Kill 1000 Helghast Kill 1000 Helghast soldiers Bronze 
20 Field Agent – Collect all intel Collect all intel within the game Bronze 
21 Iconoclast – Destroy all symbols Destroy all Helghast symbols within the game Bronze 
22 Untouchable Complete all missions on any difficulty level without dying Bronze 
23 Babysitter – Revive 25 Buddies Revive your buddies a total of 25 times Bronze 
24 Safari Hunter – Kill each enemy type with a melee attack Kill one of each enemy type with a melee attack Bronze 
25 Killing Spree – Kill 5 Helghast in 15 seconds Kill 5 Helghast in 15 seconds whilst on foot and maintaining at least 85 % health Bronze 
26 Bullet Counter – Manually reload 150 times Manually reloaded your weapon 150 times. Bronze 
27 Safety first – Shoot of 100 helmets Shoot off 100 Helghast helmets during battle Bronze 
28 Berserker – Kill 25 Helghast with melee attacks Kill 25 Helghast using melee attacks Bronze 
29 Barrel of Death – Kill 2 Helghast using your environment Kill 2 Helghast at once using the surrounding environment Bronze 
30 Professional – 3 revolver headshots in a row Get 3 headshots in a row using the M4 Revolver Bronze 
31 Fragmerchant – Killed 3 Helghast using a single grenade Kill 3 Helghast at once using a single frag grenade Bronze 
32 Fragmartyr – Kill 2 Helghast whilst taking your own life Kill 2 Helghast at once and take your own life using a single frag grenade Bronze 
33 Melonpopper – 15 headshots using the snipper rifle Get 15 headshots using the PR-6 sniper rifle Bronze 
34 Blade Runner – 10 kills with a knife Killed 10 Helghast using the knife Bronze 
35 Run and Gunner – Kill 3 Helghast with one burst of assault rifle fire Kill 3 Helghast using an M82 or StA52 assault rifle without releasing the trigger Bronze 
36 Defensive Fighter – Killed 30 Helghast with an emplaced weapon Kill 30 Helghast using either the StA3 or M10 Twin fixed gun emplacement Bronze 
37 Valor Medal Achieve weekly online honor rank #2 Bronze 
38 Valor Citation Achieve weekly online honor rank #1 Bronze 
39 Cross-Training Ribbon Acquire all badge specific medals Bronze 
40 Veteran Ribbon Acquire all mission specific medals Bronze 
41 Expert Ribbon Acquire all combat specific medals   Bronze 
42 Wargod Ribbon Wargod Ribbon Bronze 
43 Blitzkrieg Ribbon Win 50 online matches Bronze 
44 Elementalslayer – Kill the ArcTrooper within 1 minute 30 seconds Kill the Tharsis Refinery ArcTrooper in under 1 minute 30 seconds Hidden 
45 Giantslayer – Kill the Heavy within 1 minute Kill the Blood Meridian heavy in unter 1 minute Hidden 
46 Dragonslayer – Kill the ATAC within 1 minute 30 seconds Kill the Salamun Bridge ATAC in under 1 minute 30 seconds Hidden 
47 Demonslayer – Kill Radec within 20 minutes Kill Radec at Visari Palace within 20 minutes Hidden 
48 Stick Around – Nail 20 Helghast to the wall Nail 20 Helghast to a wall using the Boltgun VC-21 Hidden 
49 Master Conductor – Electrocute 3 Helghas Electrocute 2 Helghast with a single burst from the Electricity Gun AR-X Hidden 
50 Can Opener – Destroy a Helghast APC Destroy any Helghast APC during battle Hidden 
51 Spare Parts – Destroy all Leech Pods Destroy all Leech Pods in The Cruiser Hidden 
52 Treadhead – Kill 30 Helghast whilst in the tank Take 30 Helghast lives whilst using the ISA tank Hidden 
53 Mechspert – Stomp 10 Helghast Stomp 10 Helghast with your Exoskeleton in Maelstra Barrens Hidden

here it is again http://elhabib.at/2008/11/26/welt-exklusiv-absolut-alle-trophies-von-killzone-2/

 

[LALILULELO]

killzone 2 will have a 3-4hour campaign.

now i know why there's lots of dlc planned for the game - they're planning to rape your wallet with episodic chapters.

tempy?

It will not be 3-4 hours it be around the 8+ mark.
depending on your skill and diff. ofcourse.

 

[Stillmatic]

Just had a +99 match. I can't believe i've had this much fun on just 3 maps.

Does the beta end tomorrow (28th here in NZ) or the day after?

 

[TTP]

It will not be 3-4 hours it be around the 8+ mark.
depending on your skill and diff. ofcourse.

That's not enough to be honest. It's just 2 hrs more compared to the shortest PS3 game ever (Heavenly Sword).

 

[Private Hoffman]

That's not enough to be honest. It's just 2 hrs more compared to the shortest PS3 game ever (Heavenly Sword).

How is that not enough?

Uncharted was about 8-9 hours, and that didn't even have an awesome multiplayer mode.

Halo 3 was like 6 hours, and Gears of War 1 was about 5. Gears of War 2 was about 8.

Seems about right to me. I don't mind a short campaign so long as it is awesome.

 

[nofi]

http://elhabib.at/2008/11/26/welt-exklusiv-absolut-alle-trophies-von-killzone-2/

Nevermind me, being thick.

 

[neorej]

Even if Killzone 2 had 150 hours of single-playercampaign runthrough time, people would be bitching it's too short. Gameplay-hours != awesomeness of experience people!

I'd rather have 12 hours of kickass gameplay than 50 hours of dragging the story on and on and on and on through dull gameplay.

 

[SolidSnakex]

That's not enough to be honest. It's just 2 hrs more compared to the shortest PS3 game ever (Heavenly Sword).

It's basically as long as the majority of shooters coming out now. Their longevity comes from their multiplayer.

 

[Fersis]

How is that not enough?

Uncharted was about 8-9 hours, and that didn't even have an awesome multiplayer mode.

Halo 3 was like 6 hours, and Gears of War 1 was about 5. Gears of War 2 was about 8.

Seems about right to me. I don't mind a short campaign so long as it is awesome.

Damn ,MGS4 was like 3-4 hours without cutscenes and it was amazing.
8-9 hours is fine for a FPS shooter.
The replay value comes with the top-notch multiplayer mode, i want to thanks GG for putting offline bots, i loved Killzone 1 so much because of that.

 

[Private Hoffman]

Damn ,MGS4 was like 3-4 hours without cutscenes and it was amazing.
8-9 hours is fine for a FPS shooter.
The replay value comes with the top-notch multiplayer mode, i want to thanks GG for putting offline bots, i loved Killzone 1 so much because of that.

It's a good thing I've clocked in over 70 hours in the freaking BETA of Killzone 2. KZ2Obsessed has clocked in over 100.

That tells you how damn good the MP is. It's freaking incredible.

8 hours of single player goodness on par with uncharted, and multiple playthroughs on higher difficulties is A-OK with me. 8 hours is longer than most of the shooters we get these days

 

[DrPirate]

I beat R2 is 6:31.

What the fuck are you people complaining about?

Halo 3, Gears 1 and 2, Call of Duty 4, (etc etc etc every shooter in this pile) took me about that long...How is 8 hours a travesty?

I play all my games on the hardest difficulties once more anyways, and if the campaign is amazing and memorable, what gives?

People trying to make it sound like the game just lost it's spark.

I can't wait until you all find out God of War 3 is 6-7 hours long. (which is actually longer than the first 2).

 

[Fersis]

It's a good thing I've clocked in over 70 hours in the freaking BETA of Killzone 2. KZ2Obsessed has clocked in over 100.

That tells you how damn good the MP is. It's freaking incredible.

8 hours of single player goodness on par with uncharted, and multiple playthroughs on higher difficulties is A-OK with me. 8 hours is longer than most of the shooters we get these days

the MP is gonna be a huuuuge success.
The beta have bots?
Again : I love GG for putting bots !

 

[TTP]

It's basically as long as the majority of shooters coming out now. Their longevity comes from their multiplayer.

Well, COD4 was longer. R1 was (much) longer. R2 is longer. GOW2 is longer. I don't know to which majority you are referring to TBH. Of course I can't express a final opinion about KZ2 length as I didn't play all of it, but let me just say as I reached lvl 6 in the preview code and looked over the trophy list to see how much was left I had a huge "is that it?" feeling. Perhaps those last 2 levels or so are going to be so OMG awesome and the ending so good, you wont feel unsatisfied.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Well, COD4 was longer.

What? I beat it in less than 8 hours. And one of the first reviews to come out for COD4 mentioned that despite how good the single player campaign is, it'll only take you around 5 hours to complete it. Shooters are often around 5-10 hours because all you're doing is shooting and eventually people will get tired of it. It's much better to leave people wanting more than to make people just wish the game would end.

 

[Always-honest]

8 hours would be fine.. as long as it's top quality.. i'll just play it again with friends in co-op..

wakes up... damn

 

[Fersis]

What? I beat it in less than 8 hours. And one of the first reviews to come out for COD4 mentioned that despite how good the single player campaign is, it'll only take you around 5 hours to complete it. Shooters are often around 5-10 hours because all you're doing is shooting and eventually people will get tired of it. It's much better to leave people wanting more than to make people just wish the game would end.

Yeah, i beat COD4 on 6-8 hours.
Its cool guys, its just nitpicking.

 

[Private Hoffman]

Well, COD4 was longer. R1 was (much) longer. R2 is longer. GOW2 is longer. I don't know to which majority you are referring to TBH. Of course I can't express a final opinion about KZ2 length as I didn't play all of it, but let me just say as I reached lvl 6 in the preview code and looked over the trophy list to see how much was left I had a huge "is that it?" feeling. Perhaps those last 2 levels or so are going to be so OMG awesome and the ending so good, you wont feel unsatisfied.

CoD4 was short. Around 6 hrs or so.

Gears 2 was about 8 hours...not really more than that.

Doesn't the preview code only have 6 levels? And there are a total of 9 or 10 (depending on if the trophy for completing the game includes some unknown level)?

So you've got 3-4 more levels apparently, I guess.

BTW what do you mean by satisfied? Have you not been satisfied by what you've played so far?

 

[DoomGyver]

COD4 on Veteran is easily 9-12 hours, depending on your skill level.

Spoiler

The way it was meant to be played

Anyways, the length doesn't matter to me as long as the plot leaves me wanting more.

And there is always DLC of course.

 

[TTP]

What? I beat it in less than 8 hours. And one of the first reviews to come out for COD4 mentioned that despite how good the single player campaign is, it'll only take you around 5 hours to complete it. Shooters are often around 5-10 hours because all you're doing is shooting and eventually people will get tired of it. It's much better to leave people wanting more than to make people just wish the game would end.

This is assuming it really takes 8+ hrs to beat KZ2. Reaching lvl 6 took me about the half of that...

But I'm dancing too close to the NDA now so I should just quit

 

[Private Hoffman]

This is assuming it really takes 8+ hrs to beat KZ2. Reaching lvl 6 took me about the half of that...

But I'm dancing too close to the NDA now so I should just quit

Reaching level 6 or beating level 6?

Cuz if you played through 5 levels, that could be about half the game if there are 9-10 levels.

So, 4 hours being half of 8 sounds about right...

The devs mentioned there being 11 levels in the game.

So maybe there are 10 levels + an introductory level that got counted?

 

[TTP]

Reaching level 6 or beating level 6?

Cuz if you played through 5 levels, that could be about half the game.

Beating lvl 6.

I have unlocked all the bolded trophies here:

Spoiler

Corinth Ribbon - Complete Corinth River on any difficulty
Blood Ribbon - Complete Blood Meirdian on any difficulty
Visarl Ribbon - Complete Visari Square on any difficulty
Salamun Ribbon - Complete Salum District on any difficulty
Bridge Ribbon - Complete Salamun Bridge on any difficulty
Suljeva Ribbon - Complete Suljeva Village on any difficulty
Tharsis Ribbon - Complete Tharsis refinery on any difficulty
Cruiser Ribbon - Complete The Cruiser on any difficulty
Maelstra Ribbon - Complete on Maelstra Barrens any difficulty

I think I'm quite beyond the half of the game.

 

[Private Hoffman]

Beating lvl 6.

I have unlocked all the bolded trophies here:

Spoiler

Corinth Ribbon - Complete Corinth River on any difficulty
Blood Ribbon - Complete Blood Meirdian on any difficulty
Visarl Ribbon - Complete Visari Square on any difficulty
Salamun Ribbon - Complete Salum District on any difficulty
Bridge Ribbon - Complete Salamun Bridge on any difficulty
Suljeva Ribbon - Complete Suljeva Village on any difficulty
Tharsis Ribbon - Complete Tharsis refinery on any difficulty
Cruiser Ribbon - Complete The Cruiser on any difficulty
Maelstra Ribbon - Complete on Maelstra Barrens any difficulty

I think I'm quite beyond the half of the game.

You're missing one:

Survivor - Complete all Missions on any difficulty

Which could mean there's 1 more level we don't know about.