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Kinda Funny Games: The Final PS I Love You XOXO
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Personally i'm enjoying Kotaku Splitscreen, it's not PS only, but it's very well made.
NavyPharaoh
Member
Thanks for the suggestion.
I think the problem with KF now is they need a serious type like Colin just not Colin. Colin became way too negative with his superiority complex that started ruining the credibility of the show because it's not in Greg or Tim's nature to be confrontational. Colin had checked out but that didn't stop him from speaking as if he knew everything.
But without him Tim & Greg aren't deep enough when discussing games other than it's fun & awesome or it's not but they'll bounce back. Every band has to find its footing after losing a key member.
As for Colin, if Trump taught us anything it's if you have certain views that appeal to a certain demographic you will have an audience. That audience may be ignorant assholes but ignorant assholes have to spend their money too.
FairXchange
Member
Have you seen his content? He talks about history, political theory, etc. Why do you have to call his viewers ignorant assholes?
NavyPharaoh
Member
Didn't mean his viewers from his patreon as I have no ideal what it's about. So if I offended you I apologize
I stopped paying attention when he was tweeting bullshit and had people right there with him. So I was speaking of that crowd
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Talking about all of the KF podcasts. He was such a drag on the Gamescast and never had a single thing to say that wasn't on a political topic on GoGS.
No.
FairXchange
Member
I think I've watched half an episode of one of his videos, so no need to apologize to me. I just think you needed to substantiate your claim that Colin's viewers were ignorant assholes. It's for history and American political science enthusiasts from what I've seen.
angelic
Banned
I really tried to like PSILY but its so, so boring. They talk about themselves for 20 minutes before they even touch on things game related, all about how mad and zany they are in the office, the new plant in the corner, how many coffees they had this morning. Greg seems nice but I dont want to hear about all the minutia about what these people think about, and why they are so fascinated by their own lives.
If he reads this by some chance, make the game discussions the focus, stop the inane babble. Watching it waiting for some actual game discussion is like Milhaus waiting to get to the fireworks factory.
Oh and better without Moriarty, my god that man talked rubbish, like listening to a child who's just learned about politics and extrapolated loads of horrible conclusions.
If he reads this by some chance, make the game discussions the focus, stop the inane babble. Watching it waiting for some actual game discussion is like Milhaus waiting to get to the fireworks factory.
Oh and better without Moriarty, my god that man talked rubbish, like listening to a child who's just learned about politics and extrapolated loads of horrible conclusions.
WrenchNinja
Member
If they're getting history lessons from him, then they are probably ignorant
I do have to question someone who does continue to listen to him after all the stupid and asshole shit he has said
As someone who started talking to and listening to Colin back when he was a guides writer (Colin gave me a lot of advice through twitter DMs before I went to school for history), and as someone who also became completely disgusted with his behavior online, all I can say is that this is complete bullshit.
Colin is an excellent writer and would have made a great historian had he continued down that path. Dude is well-versed in that realm.
what has he said about history that was stupid? You might not like his political views, but you can't say him or his audience is ignorant of history.
markhimself46
Member
Not gonna lie, the coda to this episode was pretty sad 
tamaster92
Member
I never got into KF as colin was getting too much but beyond was amazing with greg, colin and ryan Miss it and hope they are all well
Miss it and hope they are all wellMarkitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
He didn't say ignorant about history, he said ignorant, which is probably true for a decent percentage of them judging by how his fanbase acted during the Twitter debacle.
rochellepaws
Member
Was a fan of PS I love you XOXO and was certainly no fan of Colin but it has become apparent since his departure that Greg is no longer the same person without their dynamic and everything about Kinda Funny hinged on Greg being at his best. I don't see it recovering but it'd be nice if they found a way.
The Gametrailers closure hit a lot of people hard and caused people to realise they probably weren't doing enough to spread how good it was through word of mouth. I think some are overdoing it now though and to the detriment of the brand.
The Gametrailers closure hit a lot of people hard and caused people to realise they probably weren't doing enough to spread how good it was through word of mouth. I think some are overdoing it now though and to the detriment of the brand.
Nah, it was obvious Colin was gonna make bank. There's no easier money than screaming about the intolerant left while ranting about safe spaces and shit.
Nothing he has done in that regard is anything that you couldn't get elsewhere (and done better). If they're looking to him as some special savant of history, then they are indeed ignorant. If they don't care about about history and are just following him because he is a prick on twitter, then that too is fairly foolish.
Basically. It's fine if someone like Colin gets you interested in political theory and such, but if you're following him for his insight into modern and historical political theory, yikes. There are people out there actually educated on the topic and experienced in these areas.
tiredheadcrab
Member
It seems like their content is lacking nowadays. They need to do more Lets plays and such. Maybe broaden their gaming preferences a bit. I get that they are mostly console gamers, specifically PS, and Nintendo, but they could do with some more PC gaming and maybe Xbox. I remember Colin played a MOBA which was probably weird for him since he would never play a game like that ever. But its nice seeing them leave their comfort zone.
Like hope online in Overwatch or play Battlegrounds. Also bring someone on who isnt always positive. That can be a turn off. Colin had a good variety of opinions on gaming and it was nice.
Like hope online in Overwatch or play Battlegrounds. Also bring someone on who isnt always positive. That can be a turn off. Colin had a good variety of opinions on gaming and it was nice.
H.Cornerstone
Member
Disagree, the patron they had on last month actually was really good and offered great opinions.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
IMO it's quality and quantity. I know that there's only a few of em now, but with half of their content not being game related, it really only leaves 4x 20 min shows about topics that are 2 weeks old. With PSILY there was just enough, but with that finished I have almost no reason to go back.
phant0m
Member
Not anymore. It's at like 22k now. CLS (Colin's Last Stand) is bringing in the skrilla at 36k/month. Wonder how long that will last though.
digitalrelic
Banned
Wrong. It's $41k between their two Patreons right now.
True, but it's also important to keep in mind that they aren't paying Colin anymore either, who as a founding member and a large contributor I'm sure was garnering a substantial wage. They're still looking at losses but not nearly as colossal as many are saying in this thread.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Damn they should've kept Colin.
I wonder if the bad word of mouth around him if he stayed would be as much detrimental to them as him leaving KF.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I don't think it was just the backlash or bad word of mouth that lead to him leaving, they clearly couldn't work with him anymore so him staying doesn't seem like it was a possibility.
I've been enjoying their podcasts more after Colin left. They desperately need another host on the Gamescast though.
Colin seemed like he wasn't into it in his last few months, and that led to some pretty poor podcasts. I liked him most of the time, but he has gone in a direction I don't care for. Happy to see he is doing well on his own.
I think they need to hire somebody and possibly rework the Gamescast. Not sure it is 100% working as a topic by topic show.
I imagine they will announce a bunch of stuff at KFL3.
Colin seemed like he wasn't into it in his last few months, and that led to some pretty poor podcasts. I liked him most of the time, but he has gone in a direction I don't care for. Happy to see he is doing well on his own.
I think they need to hire somebody and possibly rework the Gamescast. Not sure it is 100% working as a topic by topic show.
I imagine they will announce a bunch of stuff at KFL3.
Alias03
Member
He did that because people asked for it. He was even taken back that people wanted it but did it because there was demand for it
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Whether it was his idea or not is irrelevant, it was in extremely poor taste and he went ahead with it anyway.
digitalrelic
Banned
I mean, he has it framed and hanging on his wall in a prominent area of his home. He's proud of the tweet.
Alias03
Member
Mind if I ask why you think it's in extremely poor taste?
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
It was a sexist tweet designed for no other reason than to antagonise people, made worse by the needless drama that followed.
Highly recommend Colin's interview on Joe Rogan's podcast, hopefully it gives people a bit of perspective into that whole matter instead of "I saw a tweet and my whole opinion is based on that".
As for Kinda Funny, I agree that they need someone with a more laid back, informed and sincere approach to matters to balance things out.
As for this final podcast, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I've missed, and will miss, not having it around.
As for Kinda Funny, I agree that they need someone with a more laid back, informed and sincere approach to matters to balance things out.
As for this final podcast, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I've missed, and will miss, not having it around.
Alias03
Member
I guess I don't agree it was a sexiest tweet, only a joke that wasn't all that funny. That being said I get why people would want it signed since it was the thing that "made him" and his current situation. Almost like a business keeping it's first dollar earned in a sense.
If your first and greatest achievement in a business is a lazy, unfunny, sexist joke in tweet-form, that says all you need to know about that business and the owner.
Alias03
Member
I'm not Colin (obviously) but I doubt he feels it's his "greatest achievement". More likely a start of something new, like a new beginning. I don't think it's the words in the tweet itself, but moreso what became partly because of it.
digitalrelic
Banned
He's proud of the tweet because it propelled him into a new and very successful career based around his only passion larger than video games. And I think he takes pride in the fact that he didn't back away from it or apologize, and that it ended up being illuminating in seeing which friends would stick by him and which threw him under the bus.
For better or worse, that's his reasoning.
decisions
Member
Colin didn't think that the Tweet would be significant at all, and it ended up causing the biggest career shakeup he has seen in 18 years. I personally wouldn't condemn him over that, but hey do your thing. Also who says he thinks that's his "greatest" achievement?
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Seeing all this love for Colin... Ewwww gross.
If they're anything like his twitter followers I'd bet a lot of money that description is totally accurate.
It's a dumb joke said among friends. Broadcasting it on twitter with a ADayWithoutWoman hashtag on the day the rest of the larger videogame industry are trying to be more inclusive of the females working in it who are so underrepresented, is so obviously sexist that it should require no explanation. To quote ModBot:
I bet Colin regrets he never had the guts to so something similar during Black History Month. He could be making twice as much on Patreon by attracting the racist crowd as well.
He did get the tweet printed out and framed.
WrenchNinja
Member
Colin is not an academic just because he has a history degree, he is not a teacher, and he is not a historian. If you're going to him to learn about the nuances of American history, then yes, you are probably ignorant.
digitalrelic
Banned
A vast amount of people don't know or care much about a lot of history. If a personality that they enjoy engaging with can present history in ways that are interesting to them, I see no problem with that.
Plus, history is only half of Colin's content. The other half is political and culture reactions, opinions, and discussions and engaging with his viewerbase.
Really going to miss this podcast. It was the chemistry and dichotomy between Colin and Greg that kept me engaged. It is extremely rare and likely cannot be replicated with the current Kinda Funny guys.
Kind of like Tommy and Vic as mentioned earlier. Though Scott and Vic did work well together in the same capacity... there is some hope.
Kind of like Tommy and Vic as mentioned earlier. Though Scott and Vic did work well together in the same capacity... there is some hope.
Raven117
Member
I mean...yeah...they desperately need someone that can essentially fill the video game "scholar" role.
Colin, like him or not, when he was focused on video games, did have a working knowledge of the industry from more than just a player perspective.
He was the serious one and Greg and Tim could be the jovial jokesters.
Without a serious vein running through the podcast, its just guys jacking around on a podcast talking not so intelligently about video games with higher production values.
Hope they figure out a way to make it work.
Colin, like him or not, when he was focused on video games, did have a working knowledge of the industry from more than just a player perspective.
He was the serious one and Greg and Tim could be the jovial jokesters.
Without a serious vein running through the podcast, its just guys jacking around on a podcast talking not so intelligently about video games with higher production values.
Hope they figure out a way to make it work.
Sad to see it go, but I bailed before Colin even left. It was clear his heart wasnt in it anymore. I mentioned it a few time in the OT months before his departure that I dont think he will be there long.
At that time I thought it was going to be due to his relationship, as you could kind of tell he and his girlfriend were getting more serious, and video games were taking a backseat to it (and there is nothing wrong with that)
At that time I thought it was going to be due to his relationship, as you could kind of tell he and his girlfriend were getting more serious, and video games were taking a backseat to it (and there is nothing wrong with that)
WrenchNinja
Member
It is a problem when his only credentials is a history degree he got ages ago, a career writing about video games and occasionally mentioning "I love history and politics" on podcasts
If you're going to Colin for politics, then yikes
RedAssedApe
Banned
Which one? The last one I remember was some dude that was trying to promote his own YouTube channel and didn't do much talking.
ReubyJuice
Member
Agree with this 100% - as much as I currently dislike Colin, when he was at his best he brought really interesting discussion and the dynamic between him and Greg was fantastic. I enjoyed PS ILY a lot when it first began, and over time I lost interest (probably on a similar timeline to Colin losing interest). I really liked having a podcast dedicated to PlayStation though, and getting pretty much anything I needed to know about the ecosystem in one place each week.
That ending was tough to take. Obviously they expected this to be a cornerstone of the company, and to some extent, their relationship, for a long time. How quickly things can change...
H.Cornerstone
Member
It was the guy who worked in IT.