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Kuturagi to destroy MS?

Mrbob

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A very interesting story about Peter Moore, the history of bad blood brewing between MS and Sony, with a choice Kuturagi quote.

http://www.business2.com/b2/web/articles/print/0,17925,1122948,00.html

’s not surprising, considering the products they sell, that executives in the videogame business like to pepper their speeches with trash-talking one-liners about rivals. But there are few opportunities for unscripted face-to-face smackdowns, so Peter Moore relishes the moment he bumped into Ken Kutaragi in a corridor at the Tokyo Games Show in September. Moore is the top marketing executive for Microsoft’s (MSFT) next-generation console, the Xbox 360; Kutaragi, the legendary Sony PlayStation CEO, is his archnemesis. The two shook hands, and Kutaragi invited Moore to the Sony (SNE) booth “to check out the PlayStation 3 videos.” Videos? Yes. The PlayStation 3 is not due out until April, and all Sony had to demo in Tokyo were noninteractive computer graphics. The Xbox 360, which launches in the United States on Nov. 22, did not have the same problem. “Thank you, Ken,” Moore said with a toothy grin. “But come by our booth if you want to play actual videogames.”

The stakes are enormous. If Moore’s attack makes significant inroads into PlayStation’s market share, he will have almost single-handedly realized Gates’s vision of Microsoft as a home entertainment powerhouse. But if Kutaragi has the last laugh, then Microsoft -- already scrambling for a looming war with Google (GOOG) over the desktop -- may have an even greater rival on its hands. It’s no secret that Kutaragi expects the PlayStation to one day replace the PC. “For Peter,” says Xbox executive J. Allard, “this time it’s personal.”

Then in 2000, Kutaragi started hyping what he called the “emotion engine,” the breakthrough microprocessor in PlayStation 2. He promised that it would deliver real-time graphics that would rival those of Toy Story, games that would make you cry, and DVD movie playback right out of the box. It worked: The PS2, as it was universally known, became an object of desire, and Dreamcast’s momentum ground to a halt. “What Kutaragi did to Sega is legendary,” says Andy McNamara, editor-in-chief of Game Informer magazine. It even became a verb in videogame circles: To “Dreamcast” is to use the power of nothing but a dream to crush the competition.

Moore wasn’t the only one smarting from the PS2’s success. In the late 1990s, Gates was in talks with Kutaragi to include the Windows operating system in the PS2. But Kutaragi had long seen Gates as the most lethal threat to his empire. Bernie Stolar, a former Sony executive, remembers Kutaragi asking him as early as 1994 where he thought the nascent PlayStation console’s main competition would come from. Nintendo, Stolar guessed. Maybe Intel. Kutaragi looked him squarely in the eyes. “No, Bernie, you are wrong,” he said. “It is Microsoft. And I will kill them.”

Moore is visiting the set of the first television spot for Xbox 360, part of the largest Microsoft marketing campaign since the Rolling Stones serenaded Windows 95 with “Start Me Up.” It’s also a spot that “has the corporate marketing guys shrugging their shoulders,” Moore says, sitting in a director’s chair. “This is about taking an industry and hauling it, by the scruff of the neck, from young teenage males playing endless hours of time-killing games and bringing it into the living room.”

Moore has banned technology from the commercial. He ripped up earlier storyboards for computer-graphic-heavy ads deemed “too PlayStation.” Instead, the TV campaign is supposed to evoke childhood memories of playing with friends. “The idea is, if you aren’t involved you’re missing something,” he says. To be cool, in other words, you have to be part of the Xbox gang.

Moore did extensive consumer research to prove that this wasn’t the case with the original Xbox. In one case study, Xbox and PS2 loyalists were asked to argue in front of a judge why their systems were better. The Xbox gamers based their arguments on technology: “I have 7.1 surround sound. I’m immersed in this sound, this color, this beautiful world,” one said. PS2 owners, meanwhile, were more laid-back: “It plays games, it’s simple, it works,” said one, slouched in his seat. Moore believes that the ardent fervor for Xbox actually put up barriers to growth. “We had the hard-core but nothing else,” he says.

The real danger, of course, is that the Xbox 360 won’t make enough of an impact in the crucial window before the PS3 launches. And Sony has caught Microsoft off balance once already, at the E3 trade show earlier this year in Los Angeles. Just hours before the Xbox 360 press conference across town, Kutaragi nonchalantly waltzed onto a Sony Pictures soundstage and stole the show. He announced a PS3 whose specifications were more powerful than anyone watching had expected. It would be one of the first devices to feature Blu-Ray high-definition DVD playback. And contrary to Microsoft’s belief, Sony had been shipping kits to developers so they could get started on their games. “Sony showed everyone why they are on top,” says Ubisoft president Laurent Detoc. Microsoft’s overconfidence reminds him of an old saying in French: “Don’t sell the bear’s skin before you’ve killed him.”

Some very interesting quotes in this article. Maybe Peter will respond in kind here since he claims to read GAF. ;)
 
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"...And I will kill them.”

:lol
 
Moore is visiting the set of the first television spot for Xbox 360, part of the largest Microsoft marketing campaign since the Rolling Stones serenaded Windows 95 with “Start Me Up.”

It's just over 2 weeks away from launch and there hasn't been one ad concerning the 360.

It doesn't even exist in the minds of the public...2 weeks away from launch...WTF is Moore thinking? Is he thinking to begin with?
 
Yup, Microsoft, il ne faut pas vendre la peau de l'ours avant de l'avoir tué! :lol

Ubi should shut up though, they're the first hanging at Microsoft's dick.
 
"Bernie Stolar, a former Sony executive, remembers Kutaragi asking him as early as 1994 where he thought the nascent PlayStation console’s main competition would come from. Nintendo, Stolar guessed. Maybe Intel. Kutaragi looked him squarely in the eyes. “No, Bernie, you are wrong,” he said. “It is Microsoft. And I will kill them.”"



ODANG.
 
Bernie Stolar, a former Sony executive, remembers Kutaragi asking him as early as 1994 where he thought the nascent PlayStation console’s main competition would come from. Nintendo, Stolar guessed. Maybe Intel. Kutaragi looked him squarely in the eyes. “No, Bernie, you are wrong,” he said. “It is Microsoft. And I will kill them.”

:lol
 
Wario64 said:
"Bernie Stolar, a former Sony executive, remembers Kutaragi asking him as early as 1994 where he thought the nascent PlayStation console’s main competition would come from. Nintendo, Stolar guessed. Maybe Intel. Kutaragi looked him squarely in the eyes. “No, Bernie, you are wrong,” he said. “It is Microsoft. And I will kill them.”"



ODANG.
That sounds like such bullshit. :lol
 
“No, Bernie, you are wrong,” he said. “It is Microsoft. And I will kill them.”

That quote is a classic.

*saves to harddrive*

I've never cared for Kutagari but I'm starting to take a liking to him. Even if he is a tad cocky and arrogant.

But the system proved no match for PlayStation 2’s sheer momentum, helped by games like Grand Theft Auto III -- which Microsoft had passed on publishing before its creators took it to Sony.

Is this true?
 
Cocky and Arrogant Asian. Kutagari is the man. Someone bust out with the KK pimping the white bitches pic.
 
“It is Microsoft. And I will kill them.”

bwahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahaahahhaahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

fucking PLEASE.
 
Sony killing MS seems like an impossible dream.

What would Ken do if MS did a hostile takeover? Mmm… Oo
 
i love how everyone laughs at kutaragi's comments but when allard says he wants to hang kutaragi's resignation letter on his wall everyones like "OH MAN THATS SO DISRESPECTFUL".

:lol

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a "business" site sensationalizing the console wars, what a shock

the beef with peter moore is a lot greater than with allard because ken destroyed peter and his dream...cast.
 
Not that I take a stance either way on the quote, but I think it's pretty obvious he meant he'd kill their future game system/game department. He's not an idiot and he'd assuredly not be even thinking about sinking MS as a company whole.
 
Kutaragi looked him squarely in the eyes. “No, Bernie, you are wrong,” he said. “It is Microsoft. And I will kill them.”

:lol :lol :lol

I'm laughing so hard I'm crying, that's fucking classic.
 
"i love how everyone laughs at kutaragi's comments but when allard says he wants to hang kutaragi's resignation letter on his wall everyones like "OH MAN THATS SO DISRESPECTFUL"."

Who is backing Allard up ? what he said sounded STUPID.

Kutaragi saying he's going to kill the one of the biggest companies in the world ? Also stupid.

There is an amazing amount of silly things coming out of peoples mouths on both sides
 
ironichaos said:
That quote is a classic.

*saves to harddrive*

I've never cared for Kutagari but I'm starting to take a liking to him. Even if he is a tad cocky and arrogant.



Is this true?

It's because he can back up the arrogance that he's liked!
 
Ken was sure a head of the game, already thinking MS would be their main competitor in the gaming world back in 1994 and PS1/2 is pretty much smashing everything in it's path too.
 
REreading that again it mentions MS passed on publishing Grand Theft Auto 3?

Wow. Talk about the biggest mistake last gen to come bite you back in the ass. Imagine how things could have shaken out otherwise.

Not that I take a stance either way on the quote, but I think it's pretty obvious he meant he'd kill their future game system/game department. He's not an idiot and he'd assuredly not be even thinking about sinking MS as a company whole.

Supposedly he said it in 1994. It is a battle for the home entertainment hub. Kuturagi wants to phase out the PC and make the Playstation family its replacement.
 
Some MS execs were heard joking about the PS3s lack of vents in the halls at E3, one was heard saying Sonys console should be called the Burn out 3 :lol

:lol okay sorry
 
Joe said:
i love how everyone laughs at kutaragi's comments but when allard says he wants to hang kutaragi's resignation letter on his wall everyones like "OH MAN THATS SO DISRESPECTFUL".

:lol

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You laugh at Kuturagi because his comment seems unreal. Allard's wish on the other hand is quite the opposite. ;)
 
The difference with MS is that we all know these are just nerdy white guys trying to build up hype for their console.

With Yamauchi, Iwata, and Kutaragi, no one is ever sure how deadly serious they're taking this stuff.
 
Wait, so Sony is partnering with Google to create a new OS?
OMGTON! :D
 
Aika'svyse said:
Some MS execs were heard joking about the PS3s lack of vents in the halls at E3, one was heard saying Sonys console should be called the Burn out 3 :lol

:lol okay sorry


Thats not very funny.
 
I think the better quote is that "to dreamcast" is a verb. :lol

Now wait for Sony to partner with Google and MS will start looking around for cover;)
 
Kutaragi looked him squarely in the eyes. “No, Bernie, you are wrong,” he said. “It is Microsoft. And I will kill them.”

Bernie replied, "You mean the guys who made that?" while pointing at Kutaragi's PC monitor, displaying Windows 3.1 with the application "Ski Free" running.
 
well, i can see all the big businesses dumping MS the second that Google/Sony OS comes out - it makes so much sense!
 
More interestingly, its as if both corporations dont even see Nintendo as a competitor anymore

:lol @ Kutaragi quote
 
Bernie Stolar, a former Sony executive, remembers Kutaragi asking him as early as 1994 where he thought the nascent PlayStation console’s main competition would come from. Nintendo, Stolar guessed. Maybe Intel. Kutaragi looked him squarely in the eyes. “No, Bernie, you are wrong,” he said. “It is Microsoft. And I will kill them.”
:lol right... at 1994 I'm sure KK didn't even think he could beat Nintendo.
 
Error2k4 said:
:lol right... at 1994 I'm sure KK didn't even thought he could beat Nintendo.
at 1994 the playstation was a pet project pending approval from sony's board after ken begged them to release it.
 
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