I know I'm quite late to party. But after watching the Burnout Revenge nad Black videos i'm kinda puzzled why they stopped. Burnout I and II sold well well didnt they? All EA's other titles are multiplatform anyway. Alot of people dont know this but Burnout started life on the early Dolphin kits before being ported to PS2.
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Late: Why Did Criterion halt GCN support?
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Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Lack of online support I believe.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Yeah, somebody interviewed Alex Ward during the Burnout 3: Takedown pre-release, and he said something along the lines of no-online audience, and that the online component was really important. I can't remember exactly what he said... but he was definately the one that broke it to Cube Europe that Takedown wouldn't be coming to Cube.
Since then, I guess they've figured they'd just leave it alone at that point.
Since then, I guess they've figured they'd just leave it alone at that point.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Ruzbeh said:
In terms of hardware provided, I guess you'd of been right. The ethernet-inclusive silm-PS2 wasn't out at this point.
However, while Sony and Nintendo signed many of the same online middleware agreements, Nintendo never made any of their own online games - which is a reassuring move that shows third parties you're really interested. Without their own games online what motivation would Nintendo have to provide the 56k and BBA adaptors and grow a sizable userbase?
Sony themselves now have many many "Network Enabled" PS2 games sitting on shelves. Nintendo don't.
Lemme break this down for you:Ruzbeh said:
Your initial post was incorrect. About as incorrect as one could possibly get. Hence the reaction. This comment is a bright indicator of a lack of knowledge...but then again...with a non-OVA Kenshin avatar that isn't much of a suprise.
They are right is pretty much another way of saying that the poster agrees with those that found your post rediculous.
QFT means Quoted for Truth. The meaning behind that post could have many meanings so I'll leave that up to you to decipher.
Nintendo isn't even a player in the online competition. That will change with the Rev but Nintendo missed their boat this gen despite Sega's best efforts
Ohohohoohhhhhhhhh... below the belt.Wakune said:
The way Kenshin is drawn in the OVAs is fucked up. Manga > *. Since I wanted slides of Kenshin in color, I chose for some captures of the TV series.
The dude that said "You know, I think they are right" didn't make any sense because he was replying to my post that basically said "Ok now I get it" because I said "Sony does what Nintendon't."
Ok.
Class dismissed!
Robert-GCA
Member
the lack on online on cube for burnout 3 was just a pr excuse. all of the tracks and cars were available offline. the only thing online added was head to head racing, stat tracking, and something else minor.
there is no reason it shouldn't have come out on cube when both 1 and 2 sold enough to warrant its release on cube.
there is no reason it shouldn't have come out on cube when both 1 and 2 sold enough to warrant its release on cube.
Version 3.0
Member
Robert-GCA said:
They could've made it online for the Cube if they wanted. The hardware is there, and you know there's a certain number of people out there screaming for online games. The opportunity was there to tap a market that nobody else is tapping. If anyone had bothered making online games for the Cube, I'm sure they would have sold just fine--it would have been a good way to make your game stand out from the crowd, get some attention on a platform where only Nintendo games usually do.
On the other hand...
The guy who said Sony and Nintendo equally supported online gaming was correct, to a point. They both manufactured hardware but didn't provide an online service, so on the face of it it was the same. But Sony was pretty vocal about wanting online games, and Nintendo was pretty vocal about not wanting them. I think, behind the scenes, that Nintendo was actively discouraging developers from making online games--downplaying the market size, probably telling them that they weren't shipping any more BBA's, etc. It's the only explanation for the zero online games outside of Phantasy Star, even back when they had online hardware on the market and Sony didn't.
typhonsentra
Banned
What about Black then? That doesn't have online play.
Bluemercury
Member
typhonsentra said:
Do you really believe that they didnt bring burnout 3 to gc because of the lack of online options??? :lol
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Ruzbeh said:
Wait...what?
typhonsentra
Banned
Bluemercury said:
I never bought the excuse either, just going along with the reasoning Ward provided.
Bluemercury
Member
Wario64 said:
Well, after moving to the end of this gen im happy that i didnt waste money on buying the online adaptor for ps2......infact im happy i didnt was any money for playing online....my pc has been enough....
ThunderEmperor
Banned
Culex said:
correct me if i am wrong but didn't the burnout series start out on GC and xbox at the same time.
wobedraggled
Banned
GC burnout sold more than xbox burnout, by a fair share if i remember the numbers correctly.
The online thing is a weaksause excuse, because the single player game is fine on it's own.
Comes down to lazy developers and the gc being the scapegoat for jackoffs this generation.
The online thing is a weaksause excuse, because the single player game is fine on it's own.
Comes down to lazy developers and the gc being the scapegoat for jackoffs this generation.
Project Midway
Member
Or maybe devs do it just to piss off nintards like you? just an idea.wobedraggled said:
typhonsentra
Banned
I've never understood why developers hated Gamecube so much. Even the developer of the Godzilla game tried to abandon it!
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Criterion was with Accliam before Burnout 3 and now they are a part of EA. I'm sure if EA gave them the time and resources to do a GC version also, they would...
Nightbringer
Don´t hit me for my bad english plase
Lies and more lies.
The people using online in PS2 and Xbox are 10% of the people of less.
The people using online in PS2 and Xbox are 10% of the people of less.
wobedraggled
Banned
Project Midway said:
Yeah that's it, I can see the board meeting.
"I see this Wobedraggled guy on GAF and he seems to like nintendo an awful lot, let's dump support and piss him off"
Awesome.
Drinky Crow
Banned
1. The Nintendo audience consist of little kids and jaded fatasses, the former of which play whatever their parents buy them -- usually family-friendly Nintendo fare -- and the latter who don't buy games to play them but to make a smug ideological statement of preference on messageboards.
2. The GC is underpowered and couldn't handle a game as visually complicated as Burnout 3+.
2. The GC is underpowered and couldn't handle a game as visually complicated as Burnout 3+.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
HomerSimpson-Man said:
I've managed to stay out of this so far, but I have to say, you're utterly wrong.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Drinky Crow said:
*yawns* go away
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
ourumov said:
Come off it. He was the biggest Nintendo fan out there at one point. How long have you known him?
typhonsentra
Banned
JetSetHero said:
What makes you say he was a Nintendo fan?
Leatherface
Member
Drinky Crow said:
You sound just as bad as everyone else now. This must be sarcasm...right?
typhonsentra
Banned
ourumov said:
Wow, didn't know he was such a hater.