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[Elfstruck]

Knee-Jerk Biased Day 1 Season Predictions!

1st Place: TSM. They looked quite garbage, but it looked like mostly correctable issues, with the possible exception of Doublelift just looking really underwhelming. There's a broad field of uncertain teams trying to cobble things together, though, and TSM has an overwhelming advantage in terms of the experience (and just sheer quantity) of their support staff that I think is going to pull them through in 1st place despite what should be a pretty disappointing season.

2nd Place: Renegades. I dunno, out of all the teams present they just seem like the one that's here because they legitimately give a shit and not because someone threw a contract in front of them or because they've just fallen into a comfortable rut by being grandfathered in. I want to believe that counts for something.

3rd Place: CLG. This is sort of tentative, actually. There's something about the team I really like: Aphromoo seems to have become their "rock", and I honestly think he's a better player and shot-caller than anyone else their team has ever had, and is better at working with and nurturing other talented players besides. I feel like they're going to be rising again in the next split, but may have some growing pains sussing out their team identity until then.

4th Place: Liquid. They will embrace their destiny. Plus, they legitimately look like a 4th (at best) right now; actually they look more like a 6th, but I put a lot of faith in their support staff.

5th Place: Immortals. I didn't know what to expect coming in, but I liked the cut of their gib. They've got a pretty decent roster, and I think that's going to count for a lot with all these other teams trying so hard to find themselves.

6th Place: Echo Fox. I'm not a huge Froggen fan, but I think having a highly experienced player who isn't an unmitigated fuck-up (hi KiwiKid) is super valuable in the current NA climate, and at worst he's solid.

7th Place: Impulse. There's still a lot of talent on their roster, but as an organization god are they ever fuck-ups.

8th Place: C9. I dunno, I feel like that Summer split rally last season was mostly them being the beneficiaries of a meta shift that was unusually well-suited to everyone but Balls, and the true form of the team is much closer to what we saw last Spring.

9th Place: NRG. Not feeling this roster at all. Cris tilts harder than a two-legged table and I don't see a scenario where top lane stops being the decider in this meta any time soon. I expect personality clash to be a problem, too.

10th Place: DIG. They're the team equivalent of a tire fire, but after enough years even the guttering flames from those stop puking out noxious fumes and fade to dying embers, even if the stain left behind will never go away. Also, I think QTPie might be able to 1v5 their current roster.

Once the teams settle in, we will see teams like TSM, C9 and CLG to be in the top standing again.

 

[zkylon]

I was mainly watching just to learn about heroes for the most part, so for me it was ok. Obviously not top tier, but I did like the Renegade match even if they seemed a bit off in their win.

More excited to see tomorrow's matches. Gonna watch some Vids of the Korean matches though.

i recommend watching this series (jin air vs skt game 2)

game 1
game 2
game 3

really fun and well played series with a bit of cheese thrown in

 

[Imperfected]

Once the teams settle in, we will see teams like TSM, C9 and CLG to be in the top standing again.

I have serious doubts about C9. Even during their "miraculous recovery" last season they seemed more confused but affably indifferent to everything that was going on rather than as if they had actively addressed problems and moved forward.

I honestly don't think anything changed. They caught a patch where Hai's jungle style worked particularly well and rode that to the finish line, and even then it wasn't exactly the most decisive and consistent ending to the season. I don't think the current meta suits their team at all.

Unrelated: watching these Asian Poppy supports makes the EU games from this week so depressing. They make this pick look a million times better.

 

[Envelope]

i recommend watching this series (jin air vs skt game 2)

game 1
game 2
game 3

really fun and well played series with a bit of cheese thrown in

zyklon plz

only i posted about that match when it was live ;__;

 

[zkylon]

well i was sleeping

also it's zkylon damn it

 

[Hard]

Why is C9 so helpless without Hai playing? They got me a whole 3 fantasy points. The team and Jensen single-handedly lost me fantasy. I'm switching for CLG if they don't show improvement vs. Echo Fox.

He's allegedly a rager and he hasn't put up good performances in professional play.

Spoiler

And I don't like his face.

It's not surprising people shit on him.

Also my friend played him in a normal game back in S2 or 3 and won so he must be bad.

Bad isn't the problem, most of the challenger NA top laners will readily admit he's better than them... when he isn't doing bizarre, stupid BS because he's apparently flipped his shit and decided to have a tantrum.

And that's fine for solo queue (sort of): you have a bad game, you lose your shit, and you call it a day because you're tilting. Not so good when you're in game 1 of a Bo5. Also not good when you have to keep playing with the same group of people day after day, and they slowly accumulate a resentment for your behavior.

That said, his raging is slightly overstated. If he raged as often as people make it sound like he does, he wouldn't maintain a decent elo.

I suppose that makes sense. It reminds me of the Sheep situation, where it was between him and Gleeb for the starting support job at TSM. They eventually went with Gleeb. One of the reasons they didn't choose Sheep was because he was "toxic" and that label stuck with him for his career. It didn't help that he would perpetuate it in SoloQ play, telling people to go kill themselves.

 

[Leezard]

I always thought the thing with cris was that he was better than all (NA) challenger top laners but worse than all LCS top laners, so you'd see him perform great in Challenger series but get shit on in LCS.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Why is C9 so helpless without Hai playing? They got me a whole 3 fantasy points. The team and Jensen single-handedly lost me fantasy. I'm switching for CLG if they don't show improvement vs. Echo Fox.

Because Hai's shotcalling is pretty much the line between C9 being a top NA team and them being well, a NA team.

 

[Bacon]

Because Hai's shotcalling is pretty much the line between C9 being a top NA team and them being well, a NA team.

Yup, even while watching him duo the other night with sneaky, he was just making incredible calls the whole time. He knew exactly when they could go in, when they had to pull back, etc. I just don't see c9 making any noise without him on the roster in the games.

 

[thestopsign]

Knee-Jerk Biased Day 1 Season Predictions!

1st Place: TSM. They looked quite garbage, but it looked like mostly correctable issues, with the possible exception of Doublelift just looking really underwhelming. There's a broad field of uncertain teams trying to cobble things together, though, and TSM has an overwhelming advantage in terms of the experience (and just sheer quantity) of their support staff that I think is going to pull them through in 1st place despite what should be a pretty disappointing season.

2nd Place: Renegades. I dunno, out of all the teams present they just seem like the one that's here because they legitimately give a shit and not because someone threw a contract in front of them or because they've just fallen into a comfortable rut by being grandfathered in. I want to believe that counts for something.

3rd Place: CLG. This is sort of tentative, actually. There's something about the team I really like: Aphromoo seems to have become their "rock", and I honestly think he's a better player and shot-caller than anyone else their team has ever had, and is better at working with and nurturing other talented players besides. I feel like they're going to be rising again in the next split, but may have some growing pains sussing out their team identity until then.

4th Place: Liquid. They will embrace their destiny. Plus, they legitimately look like a 4th (at best) right now; actually they look more like a 6th, but I put a lot of faith in their support staff.

5th Place: Immortals. I didn't know what to expect coming in, but I liked the cut of their gib. They've got a pretty decent roster, and I think that's going to count for a lot with all these other teams trying so hard to find themselves.

6th Place: Echo Fox. I'm not a huge Froggen fan, but I think having a highly experienced player who isn't an unmitigated fuck-up (hi KiwiKid) is super valuable in the current NA climate, and at worst he's solid.

7th Place: Impulse. There's still a lot of talent on their roster, but as an organization god are they ever fuck-ups.

8th Place: C9. I dunno, I feel like that Summer split rally last season was mostly them being the beneficiaries of a meta shift that was unusually well-suited to everyone but Balls, and the true form of the team is much closer to what we saw last Spring.

9th Place: NRG. Not feeling this roster at all. Cris tilts harder than a two-legged table and I don't see a scenario where top lane stops being the decider in this meta any time soon. I expect personality clash to be a problem, too.

10th Place: DIG. They're the team equivalent of a tire fire, but after enough years even the guttering flames from those stop puking out noxious fumes and fade to dying embers, even if the stain left behind will never go away. Also, I think QTPie might be able to 1v5 their current roster.

This mostly seems way off too me in many, many ways. I'll put up my list.

1st Place: CLG. They seem to have kept together enough of their team to still have proper shot calling and mechanical skill needed to win. I think they will be strong the first half of the split here and then maybe struggle once other teams start pulling together more chemistry. That said I think they still will be first for at least this split.

2nd Place: IMT. Immortals managed to grab a pretty stacked roster. There are skilled players at each position and from the first game they look pretty comfortable with each other already.

3rd Place: TSM. Immensely talented roster that needs to figure out a good way to work together.

4th Place: NRG. GBM is going to be in the top 2 best mids in NA, Altec is very good, Impact will be an upgrade over Cris.

5th Place: C9. This ranking depends on how BunnyFuFu develops as a shot caller and how the team performs with Hai in. I think they might take some time to adapt to the new meta and will be strong this Summer Split.

6th Place: Echo Fox. I am rooting for them to do well. I like Froggen and I think having an outside player like Rick Fox who is a known name in the sports world do well in his new endeavor in League would be largely beneficial.

7th Place: Liquid. Maybe Dardoch will end up being a gigantic jungle carry that everyone is hoping for. I have just never trusted Liquid as a team with much of anything, they can stack talent and then just shit the bed in some way or another.

8th Place: Renegades. Cool to see them win their first game, I don't think that success is going to continue if Freeze has to carry that hard in each game.

9th Place: Dignitas. Dig will scrape a few wins in games that they don't throw at baron.

10th Place: Team Impact. They are going to be awful, they have no hope against most other rosters. Most of their team is either unproven or not even playing with them yet. It is going to be a rough season for them.

 

[YomommaZ]

This mostly seems way off too me in many, many ways. I'll put up my list.

1st Place: CLG. They seem to have kept together enough of their team to still have proper shot calling and mechanical skill needed to win. I think they will be strong the first half of the split here and then maybe struggle once other teams start pulling together more chemistry. That said I think they still will be first for at least this split.

2nd Place: IMT. Immortals managed to grab a pretty stacked roster. There are skilled players at each position and from the first game they look pretty comfortable with each other already.

3rd Place: TSM. Immensely talented roster that needs to figure out a good way to work together.

4th Place: NRG. GBM is going to be in the top 2 best mids in NA, Altec is very good, Impact will be an upgrade over Cris.

5th Place: C9. This ranking depends on how BunnyFuFu develops as a shot caller and how the team performs with Hai in. I think they might take some time to adapt to the new meta and will be strong this Summer Split.

6th Place: Echo Fox. I am rooting for them to do well. I like Froggen and I think having an outside player like Rick Fox who is a known name in the sports world do well in his new endeavor in League would be largely beneficial.

7th Place: Liquid. Maybe Dardoch will end up being a gigantic jungle carry that everyone is hoping for. I have just never trusted Liquid as a team with much of anything, they can stack talent and then just shit the bed in some way or another.

8th Place: Renegades. Cool to see them win their first game, I don't think that success is going to continue if Freeze has to carry that hard in each game.

9th Place: Dignitas. Dig will scrape a few wins in games that they don't throw at baron.

10th Place: Team Impact. They are going to be awful, they have no hope against most other rosters. Most of their team is either unproven or not even playing with them yet. It is going to be a rough season for them.

I agree with your list coming from 1 day of matches, although I would even go as far as switching TSM and NRG. Imperfected said his list was biased so I wasn't even going to bother commenting on that.

But in my perfect fairytale world I would be delighted if Alex Ich picks up assassins again and becomes an assassin god he once was. What better team to represent NA at Worlds than a Russian, a Ukranian, a Czech, a transgender and a Mexican.

Spoiler

jk

 

[Starsailor]

I'm sorry to ask this in this topic but how can i create a new thread in Neogaf? Because i can't ^^ i need to ask an admin?

Thanks!

 

[thestopsign]

I'm sorry to ask this in this topic but how can i create a new thread in Neogaf? Because i can't ^^ i need to ask an admin?

Thanks!

You can't. You are a Junior Member currently. You kind of have to earn your stripes for a bit before you get the privilege to make threads. It used to be either 300 posts and a few months on the board without getting banned I believe. It sort of stops new members from popping up and spamming the board with useless new threads. You might have to PM a mod for the specific requirements.

If you have something that you think truly deserves a new thread let someone in this thread know and maybe we will make it for you.

I agree with your list coming from 1 day of matches, although I would even go as far as switching TSM and NRG. Imperfected said his list was biased so I wasn't even going to bother commenting on that.

But in my perfect fairytale world I would be delighted if Alex Ich picks up assassins again and becomes an assassin god he once was. What better team to represent NA at Worlds than a Russian, a Ukranian, a Czech, a transgender and a Mexican.

Spoiler

jk

There are too many teams I like in NA right now and not all of them are going to be successful which is sad. I think quality of play towards the end of the split is going to be very high though, so it should be a good split overall!

 

[Somnia]

What time is the first game?

 

[riskybusinesstomcruise]

This mostly seems way off too me in many, many ways. I'll put up my list.

1st Place: CLG. They seem to have kept together enough of their team to still have proper shot calling and mechanical skill needed to win. I think they will be strong the first half of the split here and then maybe struggle once other teams start pulling together more chemistry. That said I think they still will be first for at least this split.

2nd Place: IMT. Immortals managed to grab a pretty stacked roster. There are skilled players at each position and from the first game they look pretty comfortable with each other already.

3rd Place: TSM. Immensely talented roster that needs to figure out a good way to work together.

4th Place: NRG. GBM is going to be in the top 2 best mids in NA, Altec is very good, Impact will be an upgrade over Cris.

5th Place: C9. This ranking depends on how BunnyFuFu develops as a shot caller and how the team performs with Hai in. I think they might take some time to adapt to the new meta and will be strong this Summer Split.

6th Place: Echo Fox. I am rooting for them to do well. I like Froggen and I think having an outside player like Rick Fox who is a known name in the sports world do well in his new endeavor in League would be largely beneficial.

7th Place: Liquid. Maybe Dardoch will end up being a gigantic jungle carry that everyone is hoping for. I have just never trusted Liquid as a team with much of anything, they can stack talent and then just shit the bed in some way or another.

8th Place: Renegades. Cool to see them win their first game, I don't think that success is going to continue if Freeze has to carry that hard in each game.

9th Place: Dignitas. Dig will scrape a few wins in games that they don't throw at baron.

10th Place: Team Impact. They are going to be awful, they have no hope against most other rosters. Most of their team is either unproven or not even playing with them yet. It is going to be a rough season for them.

I was thinking about this yesterday and I'm not sure if Hai will be able to teach him. I don't think Hai's leadership or shot calling is a calculated effort. It seems to me that Hai probably couldn't explain to someone why or how he is a good shotcaller. He just happens to understand the game intuitively and is a very assertive person by nature. Bunnyfufu will have to figure this out on his own and just try to copy what he does IMO.

 

[Hydrophobic]

What time is the first game?

About two hours from now. If you go to lolesports.com and switch the region to NALCS (if you're not in NA, otherwise it defaults to NA for you), you should see the schedule in your timezone.

 

[Imperfected]

I agree with your list coming from 1 day of matches, although I would even go as far as switching TSM and NRG. Imperfected said his list was biased so I wasn't even going to bother commenting on that.

Yeah, the TSM part is biased, though to be fair it's biased by observation: TSM tends to have shitty season openers, and TSM tends to close seasons in the Top 2. I just give it to them at this point regardless of any standing logic to the contrary.

But in my perfect fairytale world I would be delighted if Alex Ich picks up assassins again and becomes an assassin god he once was. What better team to represent NA at Worlds than a Russian, a Ukranian, a Czech, a transgender and a Mexican.

Spoiler

jk

Zed's pretty playable right now. No reason he shouldn't.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

dardoch is in for TL right? he was a beast in the challenger scene. curious how he translates to the big stage.

 

[zkylon]

dardoch is in for TL right? he was a beast in the challenger scene. curious how he translates to the big stage.

yea liquid are subbing in jungle and support

 

[brian!]

dyrus's hand gestures are pretty good

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Z1ub3OT.png[/IMG]

 

[Somnia]

Let's go Renegade!

 

[pigeon]

Big money plays in the bot lane. Apparently Remi said in an interview last night that her Morg is actually better than her Thresh. Looking good so far!

 

[zkylon]

rf legendary looking real rough this game

impact bringing the pain tho

what a monster

 

[pigeon]

Impact showing why they don't ban Mundo in Korea. Crumbz investing way too much time trying to baby him in top lane. It's going to be way too long before RFL can be relevant.

edit: I don't understand Freeze's map movements this game. He keeps showing up to stuff after it's over.

 

[Somnia]

Big money plays in the bot lane. Apparently Remi said in an interview last night that her Morg is actually better than her Thresh. Looking good so far!

Ya I was curious what she was going to go with, that Thresh ban is inevitable when she plays it seems.

 

[pigeon]

Alex Ich with the good old-fashioned "just walk up to Fiora and root her while she stands there" strategy. Sometimes the ARAM ways are the best.

 

[zkylon]

alex ich not running tp is probably gonna cost renegades a bunch

 

[AcridMeat]

GBM repping Ahri. I knew he was a good one to back :')

Like both of these teams, particularly Alex and Freeze+Remi. GBM and Altec on NRG.

Nice play by impact!

 

[pigeon]

On the one hand, Renegades have a much better scaling team, so playing defensively here isn't a terrible strategy, but if they keep going 1-3-1 without Ryze TP I don't see how they win any fights. Question is whether NRG will be willing to force something.

edit: Unless Moon jumps over the wall into the whole team I guess they could win that.

 

[zkylon]

i really don't like rf legendary lol

 

[pigeon]

On the bright side Renegades displaying a great sixth sense for when they're being baited into a trap.

 

[pigeon]

That's probably the game. Disapppointing teamfight. Initiate on Elise, then she rappels, then just hang around being like now what?

edit: Impact carrying the heck out of this game.

 

[zkylon]

renegades is a cool team to root for, but clearly not in shape to be a real contender. maybe later, idk, lots of green and washed up players that need time to turn into anything

they should replace rf with voyboy for the retirement home team

he's coming back to competitive league so why not

edit: Impact carrying the heck out of this game.

i wouldn't say so, both teams had individual mistakes but nrg played the big teamfight a lot better and used fiora the right way

renegades just fed kills to fiora and did weird stuff like let her take a tier 2 while they 4 man baron and then they don't even force a fight off that or anything

i also don't like their draft, too many lategame champs for me

 

[HORRORSHØW]

impact just shat on em

 

[Macattk15]

RF Legendary gonna get bodied by most of the LCS top laners.

 

[pigeon]

Bummer of a game for Alex Ich also. Just never turned up to a fight.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Yeah RF is just not a LCS level player

 

[AcridMeat]

i really don't like rf legendary lol

It sucks they couldn't get anyone else after promotion. Terrible.

 

[zkylon]

Bummer of a game for Alex Ich also. Just never turned up to a fight.

yea, and lots of point blank missed skillshots too

 

[pigeon]

Reddit and whoever this guy is on the desk pointing out that Trundle support would have been a really good pick for Remi in terms of protecting their Mundo and Rek'Sai. And it's not like Trundle has a ton of complicated skillshots.

 

[Eman Resu]

Dyrus is a beast

 

[pigeon]

Dyrus: "RF pulled a Dyrus here"

 

[zkylon]

wasn't really a remi problem, trundle could've been better and she kind of didn't do shit all game but fiora was the big issue for them

rf legendary was struggling but it was early game mundo against a stronger fiora so it could've been salvaged if alex ich and crumbzz hadn't forced two bad ganks and fed impact two more kills

it's kind of a perfect example of why you don't gank a losing lane

 

[Terbinator]

I'm surprised they'd even chance it with Cris over Impact. Impact has to be at the top of the mantle in NA along with Huni.

 

[Stone Ocean]

It sucks they couldn't get anyone else after promotion. Terrible.

Western top lane talent is super rare. Besides Darshan, Dyrus on super good days and maybe Voyboy there's nothing left in NA

 

[pigeon]

it's kind of a perfect example of why you don't gank a losing lane

Agreed on this point. I was actually surprised to see Crumbz up there the third time, like, you literally just did this twice and Mundo died BOTH times. What's your theory, Mundo just got tankier from the items he bought while he was dead?

 

[zkylon]

I'm surprised they'd even chance it with Cris over Impact. Impact has to be at the top of the mantle in NA along with Huni.

imo a lot better than huni, top notch mechanics, bigger champion pool and he's a vet

easily #1 top laner in na

Agreed on this point. I was actually surprised to see Crumbz up there the third time, like, you literally just did this twice and Mundo died BOTH times. What's your theory, Mundo just got tankier from the items he bought while he was dead?

yeah

i didn't like rf's play but as a team they kind of fucked him over too. but yea, questionable flashes, bad baits and missed cleavers, he wasn't doing well

 

[pigeon]

Maybe Dig should just go the other way and run Cho/Nunu/Kalista. Get Baron before anybody notices that he has spawned.

 

[zkylon]

Maybe Dig should just go the other way and run Cho/Nunu/Kalista. Get Baron before anybody notices that he has spawned.

maybe it's dig that shouldn't notice baron's spawned

 

[pigeon]

Stixxay with the solo q laning strats.

edit: Stixxay with the solo q blue buff take.

edit 2: Okay, I can't keep this up.