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League of Legends |OT13| Diamond is Unreachable
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only ornn i've seen do well so far was a jungle ornn and i think it was more due to their good game knowledge than anything specific of the champion
seen a lot of support ornn which looked really bad
top lane ornn didn't look awful, but the champion looks a bit sluggish. i could see him get a few polish patches and be kind of alright
seen a lot of support ornn which looked really bad
top lane ornn didn't look awful, but the champion looks a bit sluggish. i could see him get a few polish patches and be kind of alright
SenorArdilla
Member
Riot made him a clunky mess with delayed CC and slow abilities.
Vincent Alexander
Member
All right. I'm back after being gone for 6 months. I need to stay away from Ranked this time so I don't burn out.
Lmao. I can see why I quit for such a long time. Match History....7 defeats in a row. Won 2 of last 14. Damn.
Lmao. I can see why I quit for such a long time. Match History....7 defeats in a row. Won 2 of last 14. Damn.
Took a few games to get adjusted but I am really feeling Darius. Very satisfying kit - the gibs when you hit an R are a real fun touch.
I think I've finally got a ranged champ (Ahri) a melee champ (Darius) and a few supports (Taric / Janna / Soraka) I like a lot. Also accepted that jungle & adc aren't for me.
Now to hit 30 and hopefully not play with so many smurfs.
I think I've finally got a ranged champ (Ahri) a melee champ (Darius) and a few supports (Taric / Janna / Soraka) I like a lot. Also accepted that jungle & adc aren't for me.
Now to hit 30 and hopefully not play with so many smurfs.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Lmao. Great return to League. Played against a Yi who carried his team and with teammates who loved to roam into the jungle by themselves.
-Breathes in the fresh air-
It's good to be back
-Breathes in the fresh air-
It's good to be back
"I am the bone of my ADC
　　rage is my body and tilt is my blood
　　I have created over a thousand accounts
　　Unknown to good teams
　　Nor known to promotion
　　Have withstood pain to create many montages
　　Yet those hands will never hold victory
　　So, as I pray, unlimited solo q works."
j/k, abusing Vayne while she can still 1 shot people with crits
　　rage is my body and tilt is my blood
　　I have created over a thousand accounts
　　Unknown to good teams
　　Nor known to promotion
　　Have withstood pain to create many montages
　　Yet those hands will never hold victory
　　So, as I pray, unlimited solo q works."
j/k, abusing Vayne while she can still 1 shot people with crits
SenorArdilla
Member
How do you feel when you see someone pick Vayne? How do you feel when you see them rush BoRK?
Eh, if they have good stats I trust them.
BoRK build is worse in every way, except that it makes laning easier.
That won't be a pretty reality marble.
edit: Ornn got hotfix buffs!
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-717-notes#patch-mid-patch-updates
killatopak
Gold Member
watching skt vs longzu finals right now. skt getting rekt 2-0
Reverse sweep please.
Reverse sweep please.
Stone Ocean
Member
Martinski43
Member
People who play the satan character Teemo deserves to actually burn in hell. Fuck Teemo.
Sigismundo
Member
The contrast between Dota Liquid and League Liquid is utterly baffling to me.
any tips for Darius in a team fight?
i am getting comfortable in the lane, and able to get a couple early kills to gain momentum but i'm still 50/50 in team fights
sometimes i'm able to apply 5 stacks, and R 2-3 people in a row but sometimes i just get focused down and CC'd in a second
duly noted
i don't care if the team is terrible, i love the Mets & Knicks... just want an NYC based team to root for
i am getting comfortable in the lane, and able to get a couple early kills to gain momentum but i'm still 50/50 in team fights
sometimes i'm able to apply 5 stacks, and R 2-3 people in a row but sometimes i just get focused down and CC'd in a second
duly noted
i don't care if the team is terrible, i love the Mets & Knicks... just want an NYC based team to root for
Stone Ocean
Member
A friend of mine was super hyped for a Liquid match in Dota a couple weeks back and I was extremely confused
I can't think of any east coast teams, I'm afraid
You can always become a TSM fan Kappa
Sigismundo
Member
Dota Liquid = world champions (which probably would have been what that match was about)
League Liquid = jokes
Stone Ocean
Member
If his Q becomes faster then it needs to lose the slow. He can't have a guaranteed AoE knockup.
J4...............Rek'sai.........Zac............or if you want to just include general CC you have stuff like Gragas E. One second knockup is really nothing.
Ornn has huge design issues. Not really sure how he got through. Stuff like the ability to shop wherever is just a power that doesn't feel very fun to use and cuts into the power of the rest of his kit. Same sort of goes for the late game items. He's not even the one that is really buying them and they cut into the power of his kit too. Not really a fan of base champion stat buffs to gloss over the mess.
Q damage is pathetic. 20 at rank one. 20!!!!!!!!!!!!! A single tick of Singed poison does twice as much damage. Ornn scaling is all over the place too. Brittle passive is target max % HP. Bellows Breath is current target % HP. Q is 100% AD (???), Ult is pitiful AP at 20%, and E is based on bonus resistances. You see people buying Infernal Mask just to eke out the tiniest bit more damage and even that is related to Sunfire. Just sad.
Vincent Alexander
Member
So what is his best role for his mess of a kit and scaling. Jungle or Top?
Martinski43
Member
I have no idea why people ban Ornn in champ select though. Cus he is new champ?
So your team does not pick.
SenorArdilla
Member
New champs tend to have low win rates as the player base gets used to them. It's easier to ban them then deal with dead weight.
Skyfireblaze
Member
That's late, bummer but thanks!
Martinski43
Member
Got honor level 5 yesterday with new orange looking flair. Cool looking stuff.
I've gotten two. One champ shard and two key fragments in each of them.
Soulblighterr
Neo Member
Anyone here who plays Poppy jungle here? What items do you generally build? Like is deadman's better than randuin as a first armor item etc.
I dabble. Her tank itemization isn't any different than other jungle tanks. Deadman's is usually a safe bet, IBG is also an option if you're doing well and tends to be my preferred first but after Cinderhulk is finished.
DMP is generally better as a first armour buy on junglers because of the MS.
Ornn after hotfix buffs is still terrible.
The problem is that once your opponents know how he works, he's predictable and slow as hell.
Feels like a mix of Poppy and Trundle, but worse.
Also, the items are garbage. Until you are literally 6 slot full, they are not worth your gold. Only one in like 30 games goes that far.
The problem is that once your opponents know how he works, he's predictable and slow as hell.
Feels like a mix of Poppy and Trundle, but worse.
Also, the items are garbage. Until you are literally 6 slot full, they are not worth your gold. Only one in like 30 games goes that far.
Reivaxe
Member
It's because he's a tank.
Riot has made it clear how they want Tanks to work now IMO. They are 1- Afraid shit less of having someone be like "Strong Poppy" ( can engage and tank dmg AND deal decent DMG) and 2- Seeeeem to want them to have high counter play so people don't bitch about the dreaded tank meta ( Sion rework IMO is the force behind this. People point out how he's apparently the least complained about champ and seen as the most "fair" according to some survey or some shit. That's because everything in his kit is a damn skill shot that can be avoided. He can run in and set up perfectly for his team oooor look like a goof and run around in dead mode)
They want tanks to move away from having easy engages and to be more complex well also having counterplay. The thing is I feel like it all starts to fall apart when you factor in that high counter play normally means slow rotation and slow rotation + predicable pattern/ engage + NO DMG makes something seem pretty weak.
But arnt his upgrades the most cost effective use of 1000G? there's that power to factor in. His ability to forge in lane means he has to be mana hungry to them I guess.
They're the least cost effective use of 1000g.
the way items work in league is that since complete items are a lot stronger than their components, it's not efficient to put money towards something that's just a stat upgrade. as far as cost efficient, i don't think so either, for ap it's like 60 ap for 1000g? that's not amazing
you always want to put 1000g towards a full item like liandry's or something
you always want to put 1000g towards a full item like liandry's or something
I agree with soda cop. Ornn's design is just not good nor is it really interesting. Brittle as a status is unique on paper but on Ornn it's just infuriating. Ornn feels extremely gimmicky. The only thing remotely interesting in his kit is his ult. That's it. How this guy got through is also baffling to me.
There's a reason he didn't get a hype video or basically any interesting promotion.