It could be, assuming your magic damage dealers are doing well.
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League of Legends |OT13| Diamond is Unreachable
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It could be, assuming your magic damage dealers are doing well.
Don't build Abyssal just to help ally team damage or something. Building magic resist is just a situational choice. You have Spirit Visage if you are looking to take advantage of healing, Stoneplate if you expect to tank heavy teamfights with split resistances, Locket if you are leaning more towards needing magic resist and want shields to stop AoE or burst at a low cost, or Adaptive Helm to stop magic damage dealers that rely heavily on one spell (rare). Abyssal comes in more often now because it is the default choice for MR specific itemization if you do not need the heal bonus of something like Spirit Visage, and provides mana regen for champs that are hungry for it.
i kind of really hope rito nerfs janna before worlds
like it's fun to see pros do like silly ardent censer strats once in a while but would suck if that were the 100% dominant meta
well leblanc ult costs no mana at lvl 16 so :>
like it's fun to see pros do like silly ardent censer strats once in a while but would suck if that were the 100% dominant meta
well leblanc ult costs no mana at lvl 16 so :>
He is gonna get nerfed next patch
Kotetsu534
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In pro play its mostly been Alistar, Rakan, Tahm, Thresh, Blitz, Taric. The ability to engage and face check safely is very valuable in pro play, especially with baron threat being at probably the highest its ever been (Cassio, Cho, Kalista, Nunu, tanks in the jungle so it can be done with less risk sub-25 minutes). Yes, there's the Afreeca Freecs who were spamming weird ADC Relic Shield Ardent Censer rushes, three times with Lulu jungle, and obviously Bang did it on Rakan (and got punished hard for it) but it's not really been dominant. It's more of a solo queue thing.
So far in NA playoffs, there's been 1 Janna (picked into Alistar) and 1 Morgana (as a counter to Thresh). 3 Braums all from TSM to counter Taliyah and Twitch/Syndra. 1 Bard from Aphromoo. Otherwise it's all the big engage dudes.
Edit: Personally I like it when poke supports like Karma and Zyra are dominant since the lane phase is still skilful but someone else has to engage. A lot of teams are actually very dependent on the support to pick fights and face check, to a fault. But better big dudes than Janna/Soraka every game, sure.
i get worried cos they're handing out small nerfs to different champions and i wouldn't want janna to sneak her way into being a dominant pick
what support has been nerfed....we don't even know what 7.18 is yet. probably minor changes. ardent censor already got nerfed.
I don't know that I would look to Zyra or Karma as paragons of skilled play....particularly when Karma's teamfight is like...ult+E....
Peanut Butter
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Wolf Akela
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So does Jhin's passive apply to Hurricane bolts? I have never seen it built on Jhin, but the enemy team had so many tanky champs and we sorely lacked damage. Sold boots for Hurricane. Vlad wasn't going in as much as he should be. I had 100k damage, Vlad had 36k, Swain had 36k, Blitz had 28k, Lulu had 21k.
Wasn't too sure whether I'd go Mercurial or Maw either. QSS helps me negate Taric, but that doesn't stop Kass from trying to one shot me. Going for Maw means I'd more likely survive Kass, but stuns mean instant death.
Wasn't too sure whether I'd go Mercurial or Maw either. QSS helps me negate Taric, but that doesn't stop Kass from trying to one shot me. Going for Maw means I'd more likely survive Kass, but stuns mean instant death.
Wolf Akela
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Well, what else should I have bought?
ER - don't need the CDR, too busy with AAs, ult is pointless against three tanks with Warmogs, ult was always up for cleanup
PD - feels more of a waste than Hurricane. I wasn't really getting hurt. More than half my deaths stemmed from teammates dying because I couldn't output enough damage.
Boots - constant crits + double zeal items were enough, I was dancing enough
Ghostblade - Not sure how 18 Leth would help. I actually had my Leth page on me. Didn't feel I needed the MS.
Cleaver - Uhhh
Maw maybe?
ER - don't need the CDR, too busy with AAs, ult is pointless against three tanks with Warmogs, ult was always up for cleanup
PD - feels more of a waste than Hurricane. I wasn't really getting hurt. More than half my deaths stemmed from teammates dying because I couldn't output enough damage.
Boots - constant crits + double zeal items were enough, I was dancing enough
Ghostblade - Not sure how 18 Leth would help. I actually had my Leth page on me. Didn't feel I needed the MS.
Cleaver - Uhhh
Maw maybe?
Why not?
Stone Ocean
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Because the passive is useless on him so every other AS item will be better in any situation
Kotetsu534
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The skill is in being able to cs while getting harassed or being able to get big leads with the early advantage. That's where you see massive differences between weak pro ADs and the likes of Zven or Doublelift. CS-ing in a TK v Ali lane should be easy for any random pro.
Having a safe harass cycle that puts you at little risk to a trade is supposed to be skillful for....what reason? Every single support is expected to be able to assert pressure on the enemy lane to disrupt CS. Is this one of those things where someone picks like Vel'koz support and thinks they are a god because they win lane?
Stone Ocean
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I think he's talking about ADCs needing to be more skillful to lane vs poke champs? I dunno
The argument seems to be that Karma being a low-skill champ increases the skill requirement for people who need to lane against her.
....... I wasn't being serious. i thought it would be fairly obvious as to why you wouldn't build Hurricane on Jhin.
SenorArdilla
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Where's the math for Jhin?
TLDR we overwatch now
I'm actually pretty interested in this but I want to know if there are monetization changes to go along with it. This seems like a move that will actually cut ARPU even more. Admittedly having bad ARPU has always been a winning formula for League but there's gotta be a cutoff somewhere.
I'm actually pretty interested in this but I want to know if there are monetization changes to go along with it. This seems like a move that will actually cut ARPU even more. Admittedly having bad ARPU has always been a winning formula for League but there's gotta be a cutoff somewhere.
Stone Ocean
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I assume we'll still be able to fuse 3 shards into a random champ we don't own?
Stone Ocean
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IP is gone, currency is Blue Essence now
Uncapped leveling
Capsules for level up with champion shards and Blue essence inside
Current Blue Essence will be multiplied by about 6.5 times
Champions will still cost the same
We'll get like 100 blue essence per rune and 300 per quint we ever bought and 1500 per rune page bought with IP
IP and Blue Essences are merged to just Blue Essences (BE) now.
No more level cap.
Instead of IP after every match, you get a capsule after every level up, like Overwatch and lootboxes.
Rune IP refunds detailed.
Once preseason hits, there will be a limited time BE shop.
Skins tab in the client.
Runes are nuts and shaking up the game more than anything else.
Yeah. This all seems pretty player friendly, specially as someone who seldom buys anything in this game.
The cynic in me expects something super greedy will be announced to counteract this.
Stone Ocean
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Also preseason stuff will hit the PBE this month
That is specifically going away according to the blog post.
Stone Ocean
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Oh shit, we're getting bad luck protection in chests so you don't play for two fucking years and don't see a single fucking gemstone
I should probably try and grab the few champions I don't own before that then lol
They actually labeled this in bold so people don't miss it.
Stone Ocean
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I didn't know there was a blog post, I just watched the video
I hope so. I'm looking to Riot to advance the model beyond lock boxes. Having two tiers of lock boxes is...fine but not exactly revolutionary.
IP is blue essence
Pretty sure you get nothing for playing a game anymore if you don't level up. Someone can correct me, though. Replaced by chests at level ups with blue essence in them.
that doesn't answer the question
do you still get free currency for playing games?
so you unlock champions at random?
that can't possibly be it...
Stone Ocean
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No. You get blue essence by leveling up.
Level up > get capsule with champion shard / blue essence > disenchant it for more essence / use essence to get the champion / use essence like IP in the store.
Hot damn, that's early. Nice.
Stone Ocean
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I still need to see how fast we'll level up and unlock shit but this should be immediatly 100% better for new players, specially since the stuff you get from capsules will vary according to your level - more shards early on, more essence and other stuff later.
yeah depends on the numbers i guess but like always, the simpler the better
this doesn't really fix anything that riot didn't create
Having the lockboxes vary by level is kind of wacky. Probably a good idea.
It's pretty important to know whether League will use a flat leveling curve like Overwatch. I'm pretty sure it will at least be mostly flat -- the current one is pretty superlinear and it's awful, and will be even worse after the new system.
My biggest concern about this system would be the undirected nature of champ drops. As a new player with limited resources, I focused on buying champs I was likely to want to play (and actually I still do that because I don't play enough to have unlimited IP). That's significantly harder in a world where champ shards are your primary way to get champs and direct purchase is your backup grind.