kiphalfton
Member
What's different between this and the other 20 handhelds on the market?
Jaybe
Member
There's an "Xbox" sticker on it
kiphalfton
Member
So it will be a commercial failure.
kevboard
Member
modified version of windows that doesn't launch into the desktop and saves multiple GB of memory compared to normal windows
HRK69
Banned
You guys never give up eh?
Which should actually be the most important and interesting thing every time a device with these features is announced...
Then, the fact is that there aren't 20 other handhelds with the technical specifications of that RoG Xbox Ally either.
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Mr Moose
Member
Slightly better than last years ROG Ally X.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Any word on the gaming OS being released for other things?
I could use a clean install on my Desktop.
The thought of redownloading 2TB of games is a bit daunting, but would be faster to download than to use a portable spinning HD.
I could use a clean install on my Desktop.
The thought of redownloading 2TB of games is a bit daunting, but would be faster to download than to use a portable spinning HD.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Just wait, this thread is gonna go places, lol.
Diseased Yak
Gold Member
If the X version had a larger+better screen than my current Ally X, I'd buy one. It doesn't, however, and they've said the current Allys will get the modified version of Windows, so there's zero reason for me to buy one of these, sadly.
Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
Probably not cause they'll make like 50k at a time and it'll sell at a profit with no subsidizing.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
a worthy contender against The Switch 2
FeastYoEyes
Member
Which means we are getting Silksong before October 16 
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
8" on the Switch 2 seems nice. Anything smaller is a disappointment.
Connificent
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Sarah Banks phone number is hidden inside the shell
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Joke post, right?
Tobimacoss
Member
They have stated that ALL windows handhelds will get the UI starting early next year, likely after Xmas.
Tobimacoss
Member
SteamOS can't run Gamepass natively so it's worse than dog shit for Gamepass users, Xbox users, FortNite users, Madden NFL and EA FC users, COD and Battlefield users, EA Play Pro and Ubisoft+ subscribers.....
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Zathalus
Member
Dual boot then. The advantages of SteamOS/Bazzite (usability, performance, battery life) for your Steam Library is just too good to ignore. Although playing competitive shooters on a handheld doesn't seem like the best option.
demigod
Member
Xbox Rog Ally X, it eats Switch 2 for breakfast*.
*just not in sales nor quality games.
Tobimacoss
Member
The point of the Xbox full screen experience on this device is to negate any SteamOS advantages in usability, performance, battery life. Also, Steam Deck has bad Windows 11 driver support.
And neither MSI nor ROG Ally have official SteamOS driver support. Which will be worse for this device since it has Xbox certified triggers and tech.
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vaibhavpisal
Member
memoryman3
Member
You can't be serious with this right?
DavidGzz
Member
Steam which is amazing and even has Sony games and Game Pass which contains 6/10 of Sony's top selling games aren't quality? Some of you see Xbox and your brains have a seizure.
Zathalus
Member
I have my doubts that Microsoft can catch up to Linux when it comes to battery drain on handhelds. Way too much bloat at the moment. But I guess we will see. And while SteamOS is slowly getting broader support, Bazzite works quite well on AMD handhelds.
ReasonBeing
Member
I've been waiting for the right one before jumping into the handheld PC market. They almost had me, but the lack of touchpads to use on mouse centric games is a deal breaker.
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
Comes with the new version handheld optimized version of windows and has Xbox buttons.
ReasonBeing
Member
Tripping over yourself to share a negative sentiment regarding anything related to Xbox leads to terrible takes like this.
reinking
Gold Member
I am disappointed that they did not include some kind of touch pad but I'm still holding out hope that the new streamlined Windows is going to exceed my expectations. I would love for that to happen but it will need to be significant for me to drop $$ on this instead of just getting a much less expensive Z1 Extreme handheld. So far, the performance increase doesn't seem to be that significant. That, or hold out for Steam Deck 2 Electric Boogaloo.
playbignbox
Member
Cool piece of hardware but for that price I don't intend to buy it.
SomeNorseGuy
Gold Member
This snippet
Combined with this snippet
Makes me wonder excactly how lean and lightweight this "gaming" version of Win11 will really be.
Was hoping they'd ditch all bloat and unnecessary telemetry & services. Could be MS gives us an option to easily disable/uninstall...but that's usually not how they do things.
We'll see soon enough I guess.
Article: Microsoft started testing its Xbox Copilot on iOS and Android earlier this year, and now it's bringing the chatbot to the Game Bar feature on Windows 11. Xbox Insiders can start testing a preview of the Gaming Copilot integration in the Game Bar today, and Microsoft is planning "further optimizations" for this new feature on the upcoming Xbox Ally handhelds.
Combined with this snippet
Article: Microsoft demonstrated this handheld-friendly combination of Windows and Xbox to The Verge in a briefing earlier this week, but it was a virtual demo so we haven't been able to try it fully yet. It all starts by booting directly into a new Xbox full-screen experience on these ROG Xbox Ally devices that focuses on the Xbox app and Game Bar, alongside being a launcher for all your PC games — yes even Steam ones.
Makes me wonder excactly how lean and lightweight this "gaming" version of Win11 will really be.
Was hoping they'd ditch all bloat and unnecessary telemetry & services. Could be MS gives us an option to easily disable/uninstall...but that's usually not how they do things.We'll see soon enough I guess.
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kevboard
Member
This snippet
Article: Microsoft started testing its Xbox Copilot on iOS and Android earlier this year, and now it's bringing the chatbot to the Game Bar feature on Windows 11. Xbox Insiders can start testing a preview of the Gaming Copilot integration in the Game Bar today, and Microsoft is planning "further optimizations" for this new feature on the upcoming Xbox Ally handhelds.
Combined with this snippet
Article: Microsoft demonstrated this handheld-friendly combination of Windows and Xbox to The Verge in a briefing earlier this week, but it was a virtual demo so we haven't been able to try it fully yet. It all starts by booting directly into a new Xbox full-screen experience on these ROG Xbox Ally devices that focuses on the Xbox app and Game Bar, alongside being a launcher for all your PC games — yes even Steam ones.
Makes me wonder excactly how lean and lightweight this "gaming" version of Win11 will really be.
We'll see soon enough I guess.
worst case scenario, you gotta edit a few registry files to turn it off. but I assume you'll be able to turn it off in a menu
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Just like all PC handhelds so far then?
SomeNorseGuy
Gold Member
Would be more user friendly to have an opt-in for everything that takes away from efficiency. But seeing the raging hard-on MS has for Copilot I can easily see a scenario where it would be a pain in the ass to get rid of.
But yeah, users used to PC won't have too much trouble removing it. Just a few months until we'll see what they've been cooking.
kevboard
Member
a better use for the Ryzen AI chip would be a custom FSR4 version... but I don't expect that to happen.
Fess
Member
Hmm yeah.Makes me wonder excactly how lean and lightweight this "gaming" version of Win11 will really be.
We'll see soon enough I guess.
What's even the usage for Copilot? Recommending similar games to what you've just played? Scraping internet for library art and game info?
I need to know more. If it's used in a clever way it could be cool but otherwise it'll just slow down the UI.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
I have a 4TB Nvme that I only use for Steam/gog/egs/ etc. only the game libraries go there. I've moved it between two rigs this year and all i do is point the program at the drive when I migrate.
Way easier/faster than any other method imo.
I also use network transfer when installing Steam games whenever possible.
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SomeNorseGuy
Gold Member
They talked about how it could help with difficult games, so I'm guessing maybe a "live" guide/tips during gameplay. But who knows, it'll need to be something very clever indeed to be worth it IMO.
SamusXAran89
Neo Member
can i play Silent Hill F with this?
Tobimacoss
Member
You can talk to it with voice control and ask it for help in real time as you're playing.
They don't need to do first party handheld because OEMs will do it for them. Future AMD APU handhelds have Xbox console library BC and compatibility. The ROG Xbox Ally is just stop gap measure.
Fess
Member
That's actually kinda cool. As long as it's not intrusive and start asking if you need help when you mess up or giving you advices without you asking for it…
Kacho
Gold Member
Technically, yes. It's an Xbox Play Anywhere title so you get a PC version by buying the Xbox version. Now whether it runs well (UE5 PC game) is another story.
ReasonBeing
Member
I've been following the benchmarks, and I have been holding out hope that the performance delta increases in favor of the Z2 with some updated drivers. This isn't a given of course, and it may not change much.
Edit: I'm absolutely a layman when it comes to such things, I just saw some mentioning that this was a possibility. It could just be cope.
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