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Leaked: Pakistan's internal report on the bin Laden raid. They were pissed

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Summary

  • The raid constituted an act of war; the Americans acted like "criminal thugs"
  • The Pakistani military only learnt about the raid on television after radars were arrest during peacetime deployment
  • The Army Chief ordered the helicopters to be shot down, but they were long gone by this point
  • Former ISI officer was recruited by CIA to take photographs of the compound prior to the raid
  • Fails to find any hard evidence of complicity of his location amongst the Pakistani government. Accuses nearly all state institutions of incompetence and negligence.
  • The incident was seen as the worst humiliation the country had suffered for decades. Pakistan had to become "too weak" to defend itself against US policies. "We are a failing state, if not failed one"
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Former al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden was able to hide in Pakistan for nine years due to the "collective failure" of state military and intelligence authorities, a leaked Pakistani government report has revealed. The report, obtained exclusively by Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit, also outlines how "routine" incompetence at every level of civil governance structure allowed the once world's most wanted man to move to six different locations within the country. The report of the Abbottabad Commission, formed in June 2011 to probe the circumstances around the killing of Bin Laden by US forces in a unilateral raid on the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, draws on testimony from more than 200 witnesses, including members of Bin Laden's family, Pakistan's then spy chief, senior ministers in the government and officials at every level of the military, bureaucracy and security services.

It was released by the Al Jazeera Investigative Unit on Monday, after being suppressed by the Pakistani government.

It comes on the heels of a report by AP news agency revealing that top US special operations commander, Adm William McRaven, ordered military files about the Navy SEAL raid on Bin Laden's hideout to be purged from Defense Department computers and sent to the CIA, where they could be more easily shielded from ever being made public.

Following the US operation to kill Bin Laden in May 2011, which was avowedly conducted without the Pakistani government or military's knowledge, the Commission was set up to examine both "how the US was able to execute a hostile military mission which lasted around three hours deep inside Pakistan", and how Pakistan's "intelligence establishment apparently had no idea that an international fugitive of the renown or notoriety of [Osama bin Laden] was residing in [Abbottabad]".

The Abbottabad Commission was charged with establishing if the failures of the Pakistani government and military were due to incompetence or complicity, and was given overarching investigative powers. The Commission's 336-page report is scathing, holding both the government and the military responsible for "gross incompetence" leading to "collective failures" that allowed both Bin Laden to escape detection, and the United States to perpetrate "an act of war".

Moreover, through the testimony of Bin Laden's family members, intelligence officials and the wife of one of his couriers, the Commission was able to piece together a richly detailed image of Bin Laden's life on the run from authorities, including details on the secluded life that he and his family led in Abbottabad and elsewhere.

It found that Bin Laden entered Pakistan in mid-2002, after narrowly escaping capture in the Battle of Tora Bora in Afghanistan in December 2001. Intelligence officials say he stayed briefly in the South Waziristan and Bajaur tribal areas of Pakistan, before moving to the northern Swat Valley to stay with his guards, Ibrahim and Abrar al-Kuwaiti, for several months. While in Swat, Bin Laden reportedly met with Khalid Shaikh Mohammad, the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks against the United States, in early 2003. A month later, Mohammad was captured in Rawalpindi in a joint US-Pakistani operation, and Bin Laden fled Swat.

Bin Laden turned up next in the town of Haripur, in northern Pakistan, where he stayed for two years in a rented house with two of his wives and several of his children and grandchildren. In August 2005, they all moved to a custom-built compound in Abbottabad, a military garrison town located about 85km away from the Pakistani capital, Islamabad. He stayed there for six years, until he was killed in the US operation in May 2011.​

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commedieu

Banned
yeah, well, they should be fucking embarrassed.
for not knowing he was posted up next to their military base...

there's little they could do. we used our first ever acknowledged stealth helicopters. crashed one, but still.

Pakistan should be aware that the usa does what we want to do. not sure what this report is verifying... we invaded their air space from day one.

it's been internationally unacceptable since then.
 

AAK

Member
Pakistan, "You bastard Americans, you sons of b-"

USA, "
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Pakistan, "...." *looks the other way*
 

3rdman

Member
Folks...they have nuclear weapons.

"Routine incompetence" is probably the scariest phrase to pull from that report especially with a country that has nukes.
 

Oppo

Member
for not knowing he was posted up next to their military base...

there's little they could do. we used our first ever acknowledged stealth helicopters. crashed one, but still.

Pakistan should be aware that the usa does what we want to do. not sure what this report is verifying... we invaded their air space from day one.

it's been internationally unacceptable since then.

Yes, I think Pakistan could have done much more, absolutely.

I also think what the US did is blatantly illegal, but almost certainly for the greater good.
 

commedieu

Banned
Folks...they have nuclear weapons.

"Routine incompetence" is probably the scariest phrase to pull from that report especially with a country that has nukes.
we do too... and 80 year old women can sneak into "secure" facilities.

just saying..
 

FelixOrion

Poet Centuriate
yeah, well, they should be fucking embarrassed.

Exactly. When Biggest Baddest Dude on the block is living down the street from your national's equivalent of West Point and you "had no idea that he was there," you're either an incompetent failing state or corrupt as fuck or both. Either way, yeah, they should still be really embarrassed.
 

Savitar

Member
They have a right to be pissed that another nation invaded their air space.

At the same time I got no doubt that some knew the guy was hiding out there and Pakistan had been told he would never have been caught.

Considering his crimes and what he was a symbol of not surprised that someone would be sent after him whatever the consequences.
 

TCRS

Banned
Summary

  • The raid constituted an act of war; the Americans acted like "criminal thugs"
    [*]The Pakistani military only learnt about the raid on television after radars were arrest during peacetime deployment
  • The Army Chief ordered the helicopters to be shot down, but they were long gone by this point
  • Former ISI officer was recruited by CIA to take photographs of the compound prior to the raid
  • Fails to find any hard evidence of complicity of his location amongst the Pakistani government. Accuses nearly all state institutions of incompetence and negligence.
  • The incident was seen as the worst humiliation the country had suffered for decades. Pakistan had to become "too weak" to defend itself against US policies. "We are a failing state, if not failed one"

Reality: all their radars were working but due to advance stealth technology and low flight they were unable to detect that another country had practically invaded them. There is a freaking war going on the west side of the country and a potential war could break out in the east at any time, they're not going to turn off their radars.

Also I very much doubt that no one from the ISI knew where he was, even if the top guys didn't.

But at least they're honest about the rest.
 

commedieu

Banned
They have a right to be pissed that another nation invaded their air space.

At the same time I got no doubt that some knew the guy was hiding out there and Pakistan had been told he would never have been caught.

Considering his crimes and what he was a symbol of not surprised that someone would be sent after him whatever the consequences.

and Pakistan has no consequences to offer that America has to fear, realistically.

everyone kinda forgot about how inept Pakistan is. housing laden, and not being able to prevent their citizens from being silent helicoptered away..( mildly kidding)

now they confirm that they were totally in the dark. seems like they could have enjoyed basking in the ignorance of situations details. I thought deep down they knew, but didn't want to be seen as participating with the usa.
 
Gets pissed that the US was better in intelligence than them.
Declares it an act of war.

Definitely. I bet it would've been different if it happened in U.S.
Tomorrow, they'll enter U.S. to take down a high target of theirs. I bet Obama will proudly announce this:

"We let their soldiers enter our airspace with two choppers and teams of soldiers to decimate the compound. We are happy with the justice that was done and we hope to do more secret missions with other countries. North Korean and Chinese military was also sighted and welcomed with open arms".
 

xbhaskarx

Member
"The Army Chief ordered the helicopters to be shot down, but they were long gone by this point"

By "Army Chief" do they mean Chief of Army Staff (the most powerful position in Pakistan) Kayani? Because the fact that he ordered US helicopters shot down can't be great for US-Pak relations...

Gets pissed that the US was better in intelligence than them.
Declares it an act of war.

Imagine what would have happened if the Pakistani military shot down those helicopters....

"Man...this is Abbottabad as it can get"

lol
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
LMAO.

Yea, I pretty much refuse to believe they had no idea Bin Laden was there. Better for them to fein incompetence than admit corruption.
This. Corruption on this scale would certainly mean a harsh sentence. Incompetence might get you fired.
 

luxarific

Nork unification denier
  • The Army Chief ordered the helicopters to be shot down, but they were long gone by this point

Really glad the Administration made the correct decision not to tell them in advance of the raid. How many billions have we given them? You can't have your cake and eat it too, And btw, your greatest threat is the Islamic militants inside your own borders, not India.
 

commedieu

Banned
I wonder what would have happened if Pakistan did shoot down the US helicopters
did you ever see outbreak?
Last I checked, USA was the one killing Pakistani children with drones. Perspective.
bias much? we do get 1-1.5 "terrorists" for every 5-10 families killed, terrorists whom are immediately replaced by other members due to cellular structure, or children watching their mothers explode in front of them.

freedom takes time.
 
"The Army Chief ordered the helicopters to be shot down, but they were long gone by this point"

By "Army Chief" do they mean Chief of Army Staff (the most powerful position in Pakistan) Kayani? Because the fact that he ordered US helicopters shot down can't be great for US-Pak relations...

It would be pretty ridiculous if such a time-sensitive event required a decision to travel from Kayani who was probably asleep at the time. But then again, I imagine Pakistan's military has never been in the position to make such a monumental decision and I doubt anyone would want to be responsible for it.
 

Lamel

Banned
Really glad the Administration made the correct decision not to tell them in advance of the raid. How many billions have we given them? You can't have your cake and eat it too, And btw, your greatest threat is the Islamic militants inside your own borders, not India.


They also let the US operate their drone program inside their borders.

And yeah, they know about the terrorist problems; US drone striking really hasn't helped those in the country. And the pakistani military/forces have launched major assaults on terrorist areas in the past and continue to do as much as they can.
 

Matugi

Member
As others have said, they should be embarrassed. bin Laden hid just miles from a military camp for God's sake.
 

Madness

Member
Yeah they didn't know the world's most wanted man and terrorist was living a mile or two away from the country's premier military academy? Please. Bin Laden was living in a large compound, with many people. It's obvious high ranking officers or officials were complicit with his presence there. Close by.

Otherwise this means Indian spies can easily take up residence nearby and they wouldn't know? Come on.
 

luxarific

Nork unification denier
They also let the US operate their drone program inside their borders.

And yeah, they know about the terrorist problems; US drone striking really hasn't helped those in the country. And the pakistani military/forces have launched major assaults on terrorist areas in the past and continue to do as much as they can.

Their partial military cooperation is meaningless given the ISI's support for the Taliban just over the border in Afghanistan.

Either you get everyone in your government on board with the "hey, supporting Islamic militants in Afghanistan to counter India's influence is a really bad idea because the danger of blowback is too great" or you continue to try to play both sides of the table. Pakistan has been trying to have it both ways for too long. They need to make a decision as to what they want to do and then do it. But they shouldn't be surprised if the U.S. has gotten tired of waiting for them to understand the reality of their situation.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/12/the-ally-from-hell/308730/
 
Anyone could have seen the US would do this (keeping it a secret etc) if they found where he was. And someone clearly knew he was there.
 
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