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[SlickWilly223]

Seriously, why the fuck isn't Marijuana legal in the good ole' USA? I don't have any fact-sheets or data-graphs, but I KNOW that alcohol is the cause of more deaths and injuries than weed is. In fact, if they taxed it, our country can probably get itself out of the damn deficit we're in.

I can go on forever as to how weed is much better than liquor, but I won't, because that doesn't help my case. I just want to know why weed isn't legal.

 

[Archaix]

Because if you legalized marijuana, then people would start smoking marijuana, duh.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Because William Randoulph Hearst felt that the hemp paper industry would harm his holdings in wood paper.

 

[xsarien]

Because Philip Morris makes cigarettes, not joints.

(I can assure you that if they made joints, cigarettes would be illegal.)

 

[Dujour]

Then we'd have the 1960's again and there are not enough bullets to stop the hippies this time. Keep it as private a matter as masturbation.

 

[Minotauro]

Because hypocrisy is more American than apple pie?

Personally, I think all drugs should be legalized. I'm tired of the government trying to protect me from me. Plus, if they were all legal, the production and distribution would be completely controlled and we wouldn't have people out on the street killing and robbing one another for them. I mean, when's the last time you heard about a bartender killing another bartender for cutting into his action?

 

[explodet]

Because the good stuff isn't grown in America?

 

[VistraNorrez]

The government makes more money off of them being illegal.

 

[Lathentar]

The government makes more money off of them being illegal.

Not a chance. A huge tax would make the government a buttload of money.

 

[BlackMage]

Because the good stuff isn't grown in America?

that doesn't make any difference. A lot of our goods aren't grown/made in america. We'd still tax the shit out of it.

 

[Drensch]

Because Terrorists smoke pot.

 

[Diablos]

Then we'd have the 1960's again and there are not enough bullets to stop the hippies this time. Keep it as private a matter as masturbation.

Hippies taking over the country? Cool!

 

[BobbyRobby]

They should at least legalize posession.

 

[Hooker]

 

[levious]

Maryland has made, or is in the process of finalizing legislation that makes it a mere civil code violation with a fine of like 100 or so dollars... no criminal record, equivelent to a traffic ticket. This is of course for amounts under distribution levels.

 

[DarienA]

Not a chance. A huge tax would make the government a buttload of money.

Various departments of the gov't involved with policing/drug enforcement make a shitload off of requesting additional funds to police it, you don't want their budgets to dry up do you?

 

[AeroGod]

Because hypocrisy is more American than apple pie?

Personally, I think all drugs should be legalized. I'm tired of the government trying to protect me from me.

They're protecting fucked up you from hurting someone else if you get shit up and start running the streets. Ohhh yeah I know you wont. But are you really sure about that. And are you really sure every moronic drug head uses it just as safe as you would. Its bad enough we have drunk drivers fucking shit up, lets not add anything more.

"WAH WAH WAH but alchohol is legal and its just as bad if not worse." We tried abolishing that and look what happened. Right now, as it is, its just fine without any cataclysmic events going down. Quit bitching. You get your pot easily enough if you want it, and I dont have to live with the shame of knowing that such a thing is acceptable in my generation.

 

[levious]

That's what DUI's are for Aerogod... it's not just about being drunk.

 

[DarienA]

They're protecting fucked up you from hurting someone else if you get shit up and start running the streets. Ohhh yeah I know you wont. But are you really sure about that. And are you really sure every moronic drug head uses it just as safe as you would. Its bad enough we have drunk drivers fucking shit up, lets not add anything more.

"WAH WAH WAH but alchohol is legal and its just as bad if not worse." We tried abolishing that and look what happened. Right now, as it is, its just fine without any cataclysmic events going down. Quit bitching. You get your pot easily enough if you want it, and I dont have to live with the shame of knowing that such a thing is acceptable in my generation.

You realize that many drug issues result not from the actual drug but from what it's laced with? And please somebody high on weed isn't running anywhere except the refrigerator.

A legalized drug industry would create drugs just like alochol, etc are produced in factories and such which would eliminate those concerns.

You don't have to live with the shame? Oh please. If there can be traffic enforcement for driving under the influence of alcohol then the same thing could be imposed for drug use... as I think was mentioned by the previous poster.

 

[clipunderground]

Because Terrorists smoke pot.

lol. Made me think of that recent commercial about how doing drugs helps the terrorists..

 

[AeroGod]

That's what DUI's are for Aerogod... it's not just about being drunk.

Exactly. Anyone over the age of 21(an even under) can go out and get shit faced if they want. Some of them are stupid enough to try and drive or do other things that put themselves and others in danger. The more intoxicating and dangerous substances become readily available to more likely tragic events are to happen.

 

[Dilbert]

The "war on drugs" is a failure, just as the "war on terrorism" is shaping up to be.

With that being said, I have some serious reservations about legalizing drugs.

 

[VistraNorrez]

Not a chance. A huge tax would make the government a buttload of money.

Not true really, the government would tax it up the ass, and citiziens would sell it to eachother illegally, the government loses out. Plus would potheads really trust the government with it?

Of course they could also make money trying to "bust" that and make some extra money off the legal stuff.

But really just think, if the government could make money off drugs don't you think they'd legalize it? Look at anything, it all relates to money and power.

PS I think it will one day be legalized.

 

[RevenantKioku]

but I KNOW that alcohol is the cause of more deaths and injuries than weed is.

Doesn't it follow that the more access people have to a substance of this sort, the more likely it is to cause a death or injury?
I'm fairly confident a higher percentage of Americans have drink alcohol than use marijuana on a regular basis, thus leading to the chances for more alcohol-based deaths and injuries, no?

 

[Team Rancid]

Reminds me of Bill Hicks:


-And on the seventh day, god stepped back and said "There is my creation, perfect in every way... oh, dammit I left pot all over the place. Now they'll think I want them to smoke it... Now I have to create republicans."

-I have never seen people on pot get in a fight, because it's fucking impossible.

-They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference.

-Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit... unnatural?

 

[AeroGod]

You realize that many drug issues result not from the actual drug but from what it's laced with? And please somebody high on weed isn't running anywhere except the refrigerator.

A legalized drug industry would create drugs just like alochol, etc are produced in factories and such which would eliminate those concerns.

You don't have to live with the shame? Oh please. If there can be traffic enforcement for driving under the influence of alcohol then the same thing could be imposed for drug use... as I think was mentioned by the previous poster.

Im not talking about weed, although Im not for legalizing it. But when Minotauro comes out and says "everything should be legal" thats just fucking stupid im sorry. Ive seen what some people can do when they start using some of the harder drugs.

 

[levious]

Aero,

totally missed that you were responding to an "all drugs" statement... sorry.

 

[DarienA]

Ive seen what some people can do when they start using some of the harder drugs.

Completely missing my point about how lacing some drugs causes many of the current issues we now deal with in terms of crazed drug addicts going on, etc...

 

[AeroGod]

Completely missing my point about how lacing drugs causes many of the current issues we now deal with in terms of crazed drug addicts going on, etc...

True enough. Legalizing it would at least get rid of the lacing and people getting "more then what they paid for" It still doesnt mean that making these types of things legal is right.

Still, like jinx said, The war on drugs in its current state is really a failure. Its to hard to keep tabs and keep up with these things. sad

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Doesn't it follow that the more access people have to a substance of this sort, the more likely it is to cause a death or injury?
I'm fairly confident a higher percentage of Americans have drink alcohol than use marijuana on a regular basis, thus leading to the chances for more alcohol-based deaths and injuries, no?

i don't know if access is a problem. When i was in highschool, it was actuallly easier to get weed than it was to get a 6 pack of beer. Even if you don't know it, through some friends or something, almost anyone can get some marijuana fairly easily. I just think there is a bad stigma and perception behind it. Being that its illegal, it gets lumped in with the heavier shit, like cocaine or heroin. Hell, look at Ricky Williams. The guy admits he's a recreational weed smoker, and all of a sudden he's the "Crazy hippy pothead who quit the nfl to get high"! Meanwhile John Elway and Joe Montana can get paid to do beer commercials and nobody is calling them alcoholics.

 

[xsarien]

True enough. Legalizing it would at least get rid of the lacing and people getting "more then what they paid for" It still doesnt mean that making these types of things legal is right.

Why not? Abuse of cigars, cigarettes, chewing tobacco, and hard liquor (alcohol in general, really) take you on the same fast track to death as drugs. About the only thing legalizing drugs* will do is stop people from killing each other over the actual product.

I'm a big proponent of letting people do to themselves what they damn well please.


(*I'm only referring to the really hard drugs, the shit that makes you take other addictive substances just to kick the habit.)

 

[RevenantKioku]

i don't know if access is a problem. When i was in highschool, it was actuallly easier to get weed than it was to get a 6 pack of beer. Even if you don't know it, through some friends or something, almost anyone can get some marijuana fairly easily. I just think there is a bad stigma and perception behind it. Being that its illegal, it gets lumped in with the heavier shit, like cocaine or heroin. Hell, look at Ricky Williams. The guy admits he's a recreational weed smoker, and all of a sudden he's the "Crazy hippy pothead who quit the nfl to get high"! Meanwhile John Elway and Joe Montana can get paid to do beer commercials and nobody is calling them alcoholics.

Yes, except that's not what I'm talking about at all.

 

[Minotauro]

Exactly. Anyone over the age of 21(an even under) can go out and get shit faced if they want. Some of them are stupid enough to try and drive or do other things that put themselves and others in danger.

Yes, and that's why driving drunk is illegal. If I wanted to shoot heroin in the privacy of my home, it should be perfectly alright. Now, if I got behind the wheel and endangered the lives of others, I have no problem with being penalized. It makes zero sense to punish everyone for the sake of the irresponsible morons. The act itself should be completely fine. Any law you break while under the influence should continue to be inexcusable.

EDIT: Plus, the people who want to do drugs are going to continue to do them. All you're doing by making them illegal is putting strain on the legal system and encouraging the criminal activity that exists amongst the providers.

 

[SlickWilly223]

lol. Made me think of that recent commercial about how doing drugs helps the terrorists..

Ha. Was it the one with the Columbian girl getting gunned-down for stumbling upon a Terrorist weed-farm? (Or something along those lines?)

I'm serious, I saw a commercial like that. What kills me is that at the end of the commercial it said "If you use drugs, you ruin the lives of people all around the world" or something. I haven't seen the commercial in ages, but I remember laughing diabolically while I was burning up a bowl of the very stuff that got that little Columbian girl killed.

God, such stupid commercials. besides, if the shit was legal, we wouldn't have to deal with those Columbian drug lords, now would we?

 

[Hooker]

Anyone who is against, I say come to Holland and see how much of hippies, druggies, scum of the earth we are.



I'd say legalize gay marriages and the other stuff as well!!

EDIT: one of my favourite quotes -> "We first fought the heathens in the name of religion, then Communism, and now in the name of drugs and terrorism. Our excuses for global domination always change"

 

[SlickWilly223]

i don't know if access is a problem. When i was in highschool, it was actuallly easier to get weed than it was to get a 6 pack of beer. Even if you don't know it, through some friends or something, almost anyone can get some marijuana fairly easily. I just think there is a bad stigma and perception behind it. Being that its illegal, it gets lumped in with the heavier shit, like cocaine or heroin. Hell, look at Ricky Williams. The guy admits he's a recreational weed smoker, and all of a sudden he's the "Crazy hippy pothead who quit the nfl to get high"! Meanwhile John Elway and Joe Montana can get paid to do beer commercials and nobody is calling them alcoholics.

Christ, that's so damn drue. As a highschooler, I must say that every party I go to, there's more weed than there is beer. And if I ever want to get beer, it's like pulling fucking teeth around here. Not so with weed though, as I can get it about any time of day.

 

[RevenantKioku]

Personally, I enjoy it being illegal because of how crazy people get about that fact. I find it humorous, to say the least.

 

[Baconäger]

Saying we should legalize a dangerous substance because another dangerous substance is already legal is some pretty retarded logic.

 

[Dujour]

The "war on drugs" is a failure, just as the "war on terrorism" is shaping up to be.

Legalize terrorism!

 

[xsarien]

Saying we should legalize a dangerous substance because another dangerous substance is already legal is some pretty retarded logic.

It's a pretty blatant double-standard. Unless you can give me a good, solid reason why "drugs" should be illegal.

(And "They're dangerous!" doesn't count.)

 

[Morbo]

Saying we should legalize a dangerous substance because another dangerous substance is already legal is some pretty retarded logic.

If cannabis fits your criteria for "dangerous" is there anything that doesn't?

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

Decriminalization is where it's at, which we are getting very close to.
In NYC you always see people smoking shit on the street, and they don't seem nervous at all. I don't think I would get arrested if a cop saw me with a joint as long as I wasn't ccarrying any more with me.

 

[RaymondCarver]

www.erowid.com

 

[Megafoo Chavez]

weed is pretty much legal. who gets in trouble for weed anymore? shit i got caught with a ounce the other day and all i was told was that shit is bad for me

 

[SlickWilly223]

weed is pretty much legal. who gets in trouble for weed anymore? shit i got caught with a ounce the other day and all i was told was that shit is bad for me

Woah, not in my town. Get caught with weed or weed-related paraphernalia, and you get yourself knee deep in shit.

I should know, as all my friends get caught with it.

 

[nitewulf]

americans in general are just too sheltered and paranoid. go to europe and backpack for a few months god damn it! know the world a bit better.
"weed is dangerous!", thats laughable!
personally im a non smoker now due to my own decision, but if others want to smoke, they should be able to. its not like my friends stopped smoking weed because its illegal, just that instead of getting it from a cafe like they did in europe, here they have to go to the corner of the block.
i swear, living in nyc is jarring at times because the rest of the country is so backward. nyc is like its own world.
ppl on weed running around doing crazy things? hahahha, and you guys complain when "the government" blames video games for making kids do crazy stuff!!! its hypocritical!!!
i guess as long as they dont ban something you enjoy doing its ok.

 

[MrPing1000]

Because America is the most backwards democracy

 

[Jim Bowie]

As long it's not worse than tobacco, then why not?

 

[Pedigree Chum]

Then we'd have the 1960's again and there are not enough bullets to stop the hippies this time. Keep it as private a matter as masturbation.

POTD

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

weed is pretty much legal. who gets in trouble for weed anymore?

non-caucasions.....

nyc is like its own world.

yes indeed it is