Penny for your thoughts, especially now that Kawl has personally satisfied himself with a vote on you?
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Penny for your thoughts, especially now that Kawl has personally satisfied himself with a vote on you?
I clicked multi quote things but my phone didn't seem to care so I'll just do it blind.
Natiko, I would hardly call it sticking your foot in your mouth. Aside from some fools, that one "screw up" cleared you as not being scum completely.
Bronx trying to follow along with Persona talk seems genuine.
Kawl, I feel like you are spending a lot of effort to justify this cabot vote at this point. I understand people keep poking at that (Sophia) and I would question that if I thought you were town but I feel like town Kawl would have told her to go fly a kite and just moved off it already.
Ty, I feel like your list was lazy, I read it and feel like it was done for busy work more than anything. Which matches up with your scum game, if I remember right, you used to come back in after a little hiatus and try to form up a nice generic reads list each time.
Natiko, I would hardly call it sticking your foot in your mouth. Aside from some fools, that one "screw up" cleared you as not being scum completely.
Bronx trying to follow along with Persona talk seems genuine.
Kawl, I feel like you are spending a lot of effort to justify this cabot vote at this point. I understand people keep poking at that (Sophia) and I would question that if I thought you were town but I feel like town Kawl would have told her to go fly a kite and just moved off it already.
Ty, I feel like your list was lazy, I read it and feel like it was done for busy work more than anything. Which matches up with your scum game, if I remember right, you used to come back in after a little hiatus and try to form up a nice generic reads list each time.
The timing fits for being busy work, but I've had those thoughts since last night and wanted to post them.
I should be here for a while tho.
Could you elaborate why you went after Kawl? I didn't quite get it.
I'm looking at the bottom of the post list and we have this:
-MagnumBoy20xx (2 post): He didn't say anything. Both post are just fluff. Not even a small opinion on the game. Nada.
-Ynnek7 (2 post since the game started): The first post was only fluff. Just answering Melon questions. The second gave a few reads but nothing important. Even planted excuses for a future low activity.
-Pop-O-Matic (2 post since game start): Also full of nothing. Made a vote on Sophia based on nothing and the second is an answer to a joke. Between both post it has less than 15 words.
-AbsolutBro (3 post since game start): The first one was an excuse for low activity. The second one it's a long post, but if you read it closely it doesn't say anything. Mostly coasting. The 3rd one was about a mistake he made in the previous post.
-StanleyPalmtree (5 post since game start): Stan made several post but all of them are jokes, there is no reads or insight. Only coasting.
-Kyan (10 post since game start): All of the post are fluff and jokes, nothing to work with. A lot of coasting. Just a small reading on acohrs.
-MagnumBoy20xx (2 post): He didn't say anything. Both post are just fluff. Not even a small opinion on the game. Nada.
-Ynnek7 (2 post since the game started): The first post was only fluff. Just answering Melon questions. The second gave a few reads but nothing important. Even planted excuses for a future low activity.
-Pop-O-Matic (2 post since game start): Also full of nothing. Made a vote on Sophia based on nothing and the second is an answer to a joke. Between both post it has less than 15 words.
-AbsolutBro (3 post since game start): The first one was an excuse for low activity. The second one it's a long post, but if you read it closely it doesn't say anything. Mostly coasting. The 3rd one was about a mistake he made in the previous post.
-StanleyPalmtree (5 post since game start): Stan made several post but all of them are jokes, there is no reads or insight. Only coasting.
-Kyan (10 post since game start): All of the post are fluff and jokes, nothing to work with. A lot of coasting. Just a small reading on acohrs.
melonrabbit
Member
I need to do some more rereading to get some coherency to my thoughts but I think we can all agree that balgajo is the MVP of this game. Entirely sums up my state of mind,
"What is going on with this thread?"
Also, Cabot, I answered your dumb question would be nice if you followed up ever.
Or not. I really don't care.
"What is going on with this thread?"
Also, Cabot, I answered your dumb question would be nice if you followed up ever.
Or not. I really don't care.
Thanks for that rundown franconp. Those posting fluff only do seem suspicious. I can't say a ton though since I haven't posted an exhaustive reads list but I've tried to analyze some stuff. I'll do a full list closer to day end when I can get a better feel for everyone. Right now it would be a bunch of neutral reads.
Don't see a question here, buddy.
Came in to the thread to basically say hi, said his top votes at the moment were Sophia or I which seemed like a weird top tier to have since Sophia was bashing on me at the time, followed up with a joke vote to cabot instead, when called on choosing us two kind of ignored the question and kind of played it more as a "well I would vote them based on their playstyle, not anything in this game" and has generally been very defensive on both that point and his own cabot vote.
AbsolutBro
Member
Because this is gafia where players get called out for posting too much, not posting enough, voting, not voting, unvoting and not having a vote at all times.
I swear every game I'm in these are the same comments I get. D1 is my weak spot. I don't like going off D1 gut feelings, even though eventually I will get a vote down. It's also the weekend, and I have farm stuff to do that I cannot do when I'm working during the week.
melonrabbit
Member
Correct. You asked me a question which I answered but you don't too interested in my response. So, why ask, bro?
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
sorians agression, while i cant say i really agree with a single point he has made, is geting a lot more talking going, so thats helpful. day 1 is usually very scarce, so its nice that everyone is kinda getting their voices out there, even if their points are pointless, the intent and attitude behind them are very useful to hear.
Acohrs? Acorhs? Achtol- dog person is playing the *im new at this and you all sound like crazy people so take pity on me card* (yes, some of that is me projecting) and to be honest i think im buying it, for now at least. most thanks to them continuing to be somewhat outspoken in the face of their mistakes, rather than hiding away.
this just made my morning (well, 2pm, but thats morning to me damnit!), also i have to think its the towniest thing i have seen all game.
now that everybody has stopped crowding him, Bronx man is finally willing to talk about things that are not Bronxman, dreams really do come true!
that is also a yes please and thankyou on the chocolate milkshakes.
and finally Pop still hasnt chimed in, and pod-votes seem to be all the rage.
vote: Pop-O-Matic
mate, makada noises from your mouthhole, please.
Acohrs? Acorhs? Achtol- dog person is playing the *im new at this and you all sound like crazy people so take pity on me card* (yes, some of that is me projecting) and to be honest i think im buying it, for now at least. most thanks to them continuing to be somewhat outspoken in the face of their mistakes, rather than hiding away.
this just made my morning (well, 2pm, but thats morning to me damnit!), also i have to think its the towniest thing i have seen all game.
friend, if you disregard every point i make just because there is also a joke in there then you are gonna miss like half of what i say.
now that everybody has stopped crowding him, Bronx man is finally willing to talk about things that are not Bronxman, dreams really do come true!
that is also a yes please and thankyou on the chocolate milkshakes.
and finally Pop still hasnt chimed in, and pod-votes seem to be all the rage.
vote: Pop-O-Matic
mate, makada noises from your mouthhole, please.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
yeah pretty much
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
its nothing big, "towniest thing" being a really low bar right now.
blundering into an intense discussion like that, for apparently no more reason than a joke, just strikes me as a really bad play for scum.
its nothing against you cabbey, if thats what you were thinking.
melonrabbit
Member
Are these words of encouragement or are you throwing shade?
Great way to discourage attempts at trying zzz
The initial activity is making alarm bells go off for me. It's not just because I wanted activity, but there's not a whole lot being discussed. I've not helped the activity, sorry, I woke up tired today.
I'm not sure how to really fix it or if it tells us anything. The initial fluff maybe? That's something scum likes to latch onto in my experience.
What is your experience with mafia?
If this is your first game as town, what is different from playing as scum?
<3
We gotta talk together tomorrow
We need something to talk about:
-What do you think about Sorian/Sophia and Sorian/Kawl?
-What do you make of Acohrs asking magnum about pineapple on pizza too?
I haven't tunneled on you. Not sure if that is good or bad.
-Have you made an attempt to read Nin? If so what was it?
-Your Sorian read is interesting, but feels a little shallow. Could you elaborate a bit more?
I don't like this post, feels overly confident.
Who are you worried about, Natiko?
o.o;
I dunno if it's good or bad from a gameplay standpoint, but it sure does feel bad not to tango with you.
Define shallow for the Sorian read? It's pretty much a day 1 observation on his logic, which I don't like.
As for Nin, I haven't made much attempt to read him until you asked just here. Early on, he did a lot of question proposing.
Not really alignment indicative, but he's putting himself out there. Some of the questions feel a bit fluffy to me tho, but I've done the same so...
These observations of Bronx was interesting.
I never really got the impression that Bronx was ever a "scared person." When we Day 1 lynched in a past game him he was more passive-aggressive, and even called out my (admittedly correct) bullshit.
And then there's this, where he wants to lynch inactives for Day 1. Not sure what to make of that, but it's a pretty common stance.
There's a handful of other responses and opinions of his I want to look over. He's definitely trying to be active, but I'm not sure how much of it is substance yet. He's definitely put out some opinions, tho. So he's a null read in terms of alignment.
I haven't looked over all of his posts either, so it's possible I missed something.
Good old GAFia 2.5. The day shot that won the game and awed the world of GAFia.
Ah, I see. Not significantly. That's why I asked about Sorian's aggressiveness and seeing how he responds to Kawl.
VOTE: Ty4on
Bronx quieting down once he lost my attention is noted and my Kawl vote was mostly bluster though I am serious that what he tried to do in his entrance bothered me. This is my next stop though, this attempt at playing feels too fake to me. For an extra read, I think I like Stanley so far? Not really sure yet but gut says he's normal.
Bronx quieting down once he lost my attention is noted and my Kawl vote was mostly bluster though I am serious that what he tried to do in his entrance bothered me. This is my next stop though, this attempt at playing feels too fake to me. For an extra read, I think I like Stanley so far? Not really sure yet but gut says he's normal.
What's coming off as fake about Ty for you?
Actually, I missed that post, but doesn't paying attention to who has a PR on day one strike you as more scummy than townie?
Slightly Lean Town
Ty4on I think his posts are good and well thought out. He seems like hes trying to help town. Probably my strongest town read currently.
Franconp I think he has made some solid posts so far, but mainly has not shared enough opinions yet for me to get a stronger feel on him. Still, more positive than negative here.
Bronx-Man I think he handled the pressure well early on. Hasnt shared a ton of opinions so far though so I dont have a super strong read on him either.
CzarTim He has spent most of his posts trying to analyze others and sharing opinions that seem useful for town. This is another one that I feel I need more opinions from to truly know one way or the other but right now his effort seems genuine.
CCS This one is a bit of a gut read, but it feels like he is town and just unsure of his thoughts still. His debut game didnt go super well so that could contribute to his sheepishness. The possible vanilla claim was a bit out of nowhere, hoping it was more of a joke than anything.
Cabot Again a bit of a gut read, but I do think he has been contributing some. Could easily slip down to neutral though. Would like to see more opinions on others to get a better feel.
Neutral
Sophia Has shared some good opinions, been active, but has also made some very strange remarks. Post 462 sticks out to me as an odd one.
Sorian Hes mainly here due to how aggressive he is. Its hard to read play that aggressive without knowing some more alignments from those he is targeting.
Kawl_USC For how much he has posted it feels like he has shared almost nothing of value. Just a whole lot of arguing about how all of his posts are meaningless thus far. If he is town hes not helping us get anywhere right now.
StanleyPalmtree His posts feel like fluff. His agreement that his posts are fluff is also a bit odd. No strong feelings right now.
*Splinter I think he has shared some useful opinions for town, but the vote on cabot with no explanation feels off to me especially since he thought Cabots play was normal previously. Reserving judgement for now.
Ynnek7 Not active, cant get a read at this point.
MagnumBoy20xx Not active, cant get a read at this point.
Pop-O-Matic Not active, cant get a read at this point.
AbsolutBro Not active, cant get a read at this point.
Slightly Lean Scum
Acohrs His play has varied wildly so far. Has cast a couple suspect votes, quickly wanting to abandon the Magnum one despite there being no strong reason to as Magnum has not shared any opinions and has only posted twice (Posts 277, 326, 363, 404). Says he is just having fun (post 469) which is what he did as he casually cruised to a win in his last game. Feels like maybe hes just trying to pull that off a second time but struggling to do it as well in a game with more activity and having to do so on day one as a game starter and not a replacement a couple day phases in.
Kyanrute He has not bothered to share many opinions, and about the only one he has was on acohrs and comes off as very wishy washy to me (post 448). His comment about being the lost partner would be a bad gambit if he was a lost partner but could be a smart one if he isnt as a fellow scum flip would make his comment look even more jokey. I just dont like how his posts feel at all. Post 438 saying he thinks Ty has a good role seemed like potential fishing as well.
Nin1000 So in posts 304 and 315 he parrots off of Sorians initial comment about Bronx playing scared from post 289. Sorian I believe has not actually played with Bronx before and many others came along and corrected his claim that Bronx typically plays scared, which makes nins eagerness to chime in with the same comment seem that much more off. In post 401 he then says he understands why Sorian wanted to push out Bronx which reads off to me too. Then to culminate it he shares his only strong argument in post 433 against acohrs and its not even directly about acohrs. Just hasnt shared much in the way of real opinions overall either.
Melonrabbit This is my most unsure scum lean of them all. In post 328 and 345 says a couple different people wouldnt be their first pick for a lynch but does not bother to share what they actually think as far as that goes. In post 423 she lists a bunch of fluff reads that dont give us much, gives a pass on acohrs which at that point already seems a bit odd given their play so far. Post 451 parrots Kyans wishy washy post that takes no real stance on acohrs. Just doesnt feel like very genuine play so far.
You wanted thoughts Ty, you got 'em lol Obviously things will change, it's early on but after going through all the posts so far and taking some notes this is the result as of now.
TLDR:
Slightly Lean Town
Ty4on
Franconp
Bronx-Man
CzarTim
CCS
Cabot
Neutral
Sophia
Sorian
Kawl_USC
StanleyPalmtree
*Splinter
Ynnek7
MagnumBoy20xx
Pop-O-Matic
AbsolutBro
Slightly Lean Scum
Acohrs
Kyanrute
Nin1000
Melonrabbit
Ty4on I think his posts are good and well thought out. He seems like hes trying to help town. Probably my strongest town read currently.
Franconp I think he has made some solid posts so far, but mainly has not shared enough opinions yet for me to get a stronger feel on him. Still, more positive than negative here.
Bronx-Man I think he handled the pressure well early on. Hasnt shared a ton of opinions so far though so I dont have a super strong read on him either.
CzarTim He has spent most of his posts trying to analyze others and sharing opinions that seem useful for town. This is another one that I feel I need more opinions from to truly know one way or the other but right now his effort seems genuine.
CCS This one is a bit of a gut read, but it feels like he is town and just unsure of his thoughts still. His debut game didnt go super well so that could contribute to his sheepishness. The possible vanilla claim was a bit out of nowhere, hoping it was more of a joke than anything.
Cabot Again a bit of a gut read, but I do think he has been contributing some. Could easily slip down to neutral though. Would like to see more opinions on others to get a better feel.
Neutral
Sophia Has shared some good opinions, been active, but has also made some very strange remarks. Post 462 sticks out to me as an odd one.
Sorian Hes mainly here due to how aggressive he is. Its hard to read play that aggressive without knowing some more alignments from those he is targeting.
Kawl_USC For how much he has posted it feels like he has shared almost nothing of value. Just a whole lot of arguing about how all of his posts are meaningless thus far. If he is town hes not helping us get anywhere right now.
StanleyPalmtree His posts feel like fluff. His agreement that his posts are fluff is also a bit odd. No strong feelings right now.
*Splinter I think he has shared some useful opinions for town, but the vote on cabot with no explanation feels off to me especially since he thought Cabots play was normal previously. Reserving judgement for now.
Ynnek7 Not active, cant get a read at this point.
MagnumBoy20xx Not active, cant get a read at this point.
Pop-O-Matic Not active, cant get a read at this point.
AbsolutBro Not active, cant get a read at this point.
Slightly Lean Scum
Acohrs His play has varied wildly so far. Has cast a couple suspect votes, quickly wanting to abandon the Magnum one despite there being no strong reason to as Magnum has not shared any opinions and has only posted twice (Posts 277, 326, 363, 404). Says he is just having fun (post 469) which is what he did as he casually cruised to a win in his last game. Feels like maybe hes just trying to pull that off a second time but struggling to do it as well in a game with more activity and having to do so on day one as a game starter and not a replacement a couple day phases in.
Kyanrute He has not bothered to share many opinions, and about the only one he has was on acohrs and comes off as very wishy washy to me (post 448). His comment about being the lost partner would be a bad gambit if he was a lost partner but could be a smart one if he isnt as a fellow scum flip would make his comment look even more jokey. I just dont like how his posts feel at all. Post 438 saying he thinks Ty has a good role seemed like potential fishing as well.
Nin1000 So in posts 304 and 315 he parrots off of Sorians initial comment about Bronx playing scared from post 289. Sorian I believe has not actually played with Bronx before and many others came along and corrected his claim that Bronx typically plays scared, which makes nins eagerness to chime in with the same comment seem that much more off. In post 401 he then says he understands why Sorian wanted to push out Bronx which reads off to me too. Then to culminate it he shares his only strong argument in post 433 against acohrs and its not even directly about acohrs. Just hasnt shared much in the way of real opinions overall either.
Melonrabbit This is my most unsure scum lean of them all. In post 328 and 345 says a couple different people wouldnt be their first pick for a lynch but does not bother to share what they actually think as far as that goes. In post 423 she lists a bunch of fluff reads that dont give us much, gives a pass on acohrs which at that point already seems a bit odd given their play so far. Post 451 parrots Kyans wishy washy post that takes no real stance on acohrs. Just doesnt feel like very genuine play so far.
You wanted thoughts Ty, you got 'em lol Obviously things will change, it's early on but after going through all the posts so far and taking some notes this is the result as of now.
TLDR:
Slightly Lean Town
Ty4on
Franconp
Bronx-Man
CzarTim
CCS
Cabot
Neutral
Sophia
Sorian
Kawl_USC
StanleyPalmtree
*Splinter
Ynnek7
MagnumBoy20xx
Pop-O-Matic
AbsolutBro
Slightly Lean Scum
Acohrs
Kyanrute
Nin1000
Melonrabbit
This is also a weird thing to say. Splint maybe wrote half a paragraph on sophia without a vote then completely dropped it.
Vote: Ty4on
2nd ever game, first from the start. Difference from playing as scum so far, well tbh it's a lot harder haha. Scum you know the teams divided perfectly minus neutral, but neutral was already gone. Here, well you're trying to catch onto slips and suspicions, but since there's been no lynching or votes, it's very hard to link actions to peeps. Were just going on words and he say/she say, and as a famous poet once said words are cheap.
I stick by what I said earlier although as pointed out correctly, I probably said it too soon. Think today is about looking at who is not participating or even speaking. With no actions to go on yet, I still think it would be easiest for Scum to just coast and post less. Less posts = higher chance of not making a mistake and being caught.
On the flip side, after playing with Saw, I could also see a player like Sorian being Scum. Early on become a loud townie that helps shape opinions. Now is the perfect time to do it as all we have is theories and words. After a few days and some lynches and NKs then you can look at the trail of the dead and start to make some real connections. But now it's all just down to who can control the narrative of the thread so far.
Haven't decided yet which way I'd vote though, will wait until later on in the day phase and hope there's more evidence to play with.
Also,
Morning all!
TBF based on my posts and mistakes yesterday I completely get the case against me so can't fault you there. However, I would argue that I've made myself an easy target by making N00B mistakes rather than being caught out. Said more in my defence yesterday but you do what you got to do man.
Just wanted to correct you that that was not was I was saying in that post.
I thought I made myself clear that the idea of killing inactives on day 1 was a idea full of DooDoo.
Didn't think about that. I've never looked for that in reads.
You still feel very different from Persona. What is different to you in this game? Like what are you doing here that you weren't in Persona etc?
I will probably be inactive too. Depends on how work is and activity here.
Is there anything else behind your vote?
Is there anything else behind your vote?
Yo, Sorian