Thing is no one, including you who asked me the q, bothered to respond to my post except for her. And her response was 'go ahead and vote for me then.' I've made those same posts as scum when people scum read me without a vote. Feels like scum guilt.
Melon's frustration over getting called out for the notes felt genuine, and I didn't really have another target.
Also I am on the train (lol) home so I will have spotty data for a bit. Then it's a 45 min drive home. Should have 30 min or so at end of day in front of my PC.
Thing is no one, including you who asked me the q, bothered to respond to my post except for her. And her response was 'go ahead and vote for me then.' I've made those same posts as scum when people scum read me without a vote. Feels like scum guilt.
Melon's frustration over getting called out for the notes felt genuine, and I didn't really have another target.
I don't believe you should vote out someone who is contributing a lot to the discussion on day one, even if you are scum leaning them. If you are right, waiting to push them in future days gives you way more to work on in future days. If you are wrong, well you are doing scum's job for them. Town loses when it's big talkers are gone.
So yes, I am scum reading her, but it's a day one gut read and I am acknowledging she has been contributing positively to town regardless of alignment.
Outside of Cabot moving his vote for whatever reason I get the feeling everyone is primarily sitting on their votes and then with 10 minutes left this is going to go all the way sideways.
Outside of Cabot moving his vote for whatever reason I get the feeling everyone is primarily sitting on their votes and then with 10 minutes left this is going to go all the way sideways.
There was nothing to respond to? Literally the exact justification people use to not vote me out on day 1 in most games, that was the line you went with so I noted it and that was that. More trying to figure out what changed in 7 hours that you were fine with it. You've kind of answered that now with your "scum guilt" explanation. In general, I think you've been very easy to change your mind which isn't inherently bad but trying to follow if the thought process makes sense is where I worry.
There was nothing to respond to? Literally the exact justification people use to not vote me out on day 1 in most games, that was the line you went with so I noted it and that was that. More trying to figure out what changed in 7 hours that you were fine with it. You've kind of answered that now with your "scum guilt" explanation. In general, I think you've been very easy to change your mind which isn't inherently bad but trying to follow if the thought process makes sense is where I worry.
Outside of Cabot moving his vote for whatever reason I get the feeling everyone is primarily sitting on their votes and then with 10 minutes left this is going to go all the way sideways.
Can you day check nin for me again, I don't know what to make of him disappearing off the earth. I'm pretty sure he would kind of disappear like this in Cthulhu and let people fight but he's totally going to come in here and say he's been busy which is great but no real questioning against that.
This is cute, but it's a weak justification for letting him slide today. Almost as if he knows Ty's alignment. Also somehow he went from Ty being a mediator with inconsistent readings to being a blind spot. What?
This is cute, but it's a weak justification for letting him slide today. Almost as if he knows Ty's alignment. Also somehow he went from Ty being a mediator with inconsistent readings to being a blind spot. What?
Pointless prod vote on Nin or whatever it's intended to be.
Pointless prod vote on pop too.
This is cute, but it's a weak justification for letting him slide today. Almost as if he knows Ty's alignment. Also somehow he went from Ty being a mediator with inconsistent readings to being a blind spot. What?
As I told Tim, there's a lot of active players in this game. I don't see the reason to specifically give Ty a pass for activity alone. Although I understand not wanting to lynch him because of a lack of reads. I certainly feel that way about a few people in this game right now.
As I told Tim, there's a lot of active players in this game. I don't see the reason to specifically give Ty a pass for activity alone. Although I understand not wanting to lynch him because of a lack of reads. I certainly feel that way about a few people in this game right now.
Don't think it's wise to go ccs or aco today. So open question to anyone voting for them post implosion: if they flip town will you vote the other tomorrow?
Don't think it's wise to go ccs or aco today. So open question to anyone voting for them post implosion: if they flip town will you vote the other tomorrow?
Don't think it's wise to go ccs or aco today. So open question to anyone voting for them post implosion: if they flip town will you vote the other tomorrow?
I would lynch Acorhs and if he was town that would give me nothing to work with on CCS unless this is some weird masons/lovers play. And if Acorhs was scum, that would probably give me a town read on CCS because no way two scummates do this.
I don't want to lynch either one of them on principle, but at the same time not lynching at least one of them leaves the WIFOM hanging over our heads the rest of the game.
It's come down to these two, and frankly, acohrs is playing a lot more sloppily here compared to Pop Mafia where he actually was scum. But if CCS flips town, I will vote for acohrs on D2.
I don't want to lynch either one of them on principle, but at the same time not lynching at least one of them leaves the WIFOM hanging over our heads the rest of the game.
It's come down to these two, and frankly, acohrs is playing a lot more sloppily here compared to Pop Mafia where he actually was scum. But if CCS flips town, I will vote for acohrs on D2.
About cabot? Not much one way or another at this point. My inherent chumminess with him probably makes him lean town.
As far as the CCS/acohrs situation the ways I see it there's a couple way it plays out if we are to lunch one. Both town, CCS scum, acohrs scum, both scum. All of those with lynching CCS and all of those lunching acohrs.
Worst case scenario in my mind is one is scum, we lynch the town of the pair and let the other off (scum CCS, town acohrs probably most likely version of this permutation)
Only slightly better is both being scum, we lynch one and let the other off to slink into late game (lynching a scum acohrs and letting scum CCS skate most likely version of this permutation)
Then there's both town, I consider this one a negative only because it means we have two posters playing so anti town. Lynching either means an anti town force has been removed. Anti town town member lynched day one is 3rd best outcome in my opinion (behind scum lynch and evil 3rd party lynch)
And best outcome is we lynch scum today and keep around the anti town townsman (Town CCS, scum acohrs here)
Personally the worst outcomes arise from a scum CCS making it through today and in such a way that suspicion falls off him and he can coast. So while I think both acohrs and CCS have been playing anti town, I prefer to lynch CCS today for potential gain/minimize potential loses.
That last page was a shit show, I vote Acohrs over CCS, mostly because CCS has been a blind spot for me all day since I have no meta to fall on and he just comes off as window dressing so far.
In other news, I liked AB's list and thoughts, still going with my town read there, he had more to go with and made good insight out of it.
Tim, what exactly were you hoping to get from Sophia with that random vote and no follow-up?
He's in the same category as you and cabot for me. That is, my gut is saying he might be scum. I admit I haven't extensively gone over his posts today however.
I was voting for acohrs before all the nut things happened and I still think it's the right choice. I don't feel good about him at all and his self voting made me feel even worse. I can see a frustrated CCS voting himself, but not acohrs. His vote make no sense.
If acohrs flips either scum or town doesn't tells me much about CCS per se but if CCS is town, he is not a very cooperative one. If he keep coasting and making weird moves further I have no problem to lynch him.