Boy that last sentence reads scummy again. I'm beginning to doubt my town read of you. If you are town you're purposefully trying to hurt your team with these latest posts which is pretty shitty.I have to hope. I will hope.
I feel like singing My Heart Will Go On right now
But my god, I'm not getting lynched on day one without creating the biggest mess possible.
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Legend of Zelda Mafia |OT| A Lynch to the Past
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Hey, I see no reason to die with dignity. I'm going down kicking and screaming.
Shhh we are having a moment, don't ruin it
melonrabbit
Member
If CCS if too easy am target to you. Why don't you think that acohrs is being too obvious?
I will actually be mad if you flip town. Because that means instead of being scum doing a poor attempt at WIFOM, it means you were town who was actively being counter-productive. : \
Eh.... *shrugs*
I'm walking out the door in about 30 minutes. What do you want to tango with?
Well there goes me being all overly dramatic.
It was fun while it lasted. Oh well, back go scum hunting. Still not entirely happy with melon.
I just don't know what to think of all of this CCS and acohrs thing. Neither of them are behaving in a townie mode but I find it really hard to think both of them are scum. It doesn't make sense. I think I want one of them gone so I will keep my acohrs vote for now and only change it to ccs if needed to avoid shenanigans.
melonrabbit
Member
And, that's fine if you do. I'm not sure how I read you yet. I do like your analysis and care you've put into wording your thoughts.
he's playing similarly to pop. The only difference is he is making more. Obvious mistakes.
melonrabbit
Member
That's my point. He has made it so, so obvious from the beginning of the game. And that is what is worrying me.
Do you believe it to be mutually exclusive. Only one of the pair can be scum?
Any thoughts on Ty and Kyan? Their exchange about Ty's role stuck out to me.
Yes. I don't understand that rugby exchange if they were both scum.
Ty is a blind spot, nothing strong there yet for me to take a guess. He's done enough that I am satisfied with him for this day phase.
Kyan has been better than the beginning of this game, but that's about all I can say. He's a null
I can see both of them been scum doing the rugby exchange. In Persona scum readme me and PK because we almost hadn't interacted between ourselves before. I can see the rugby talk as a way to avoid that. The latest exchange not so much. It's too bold of a move for scum partners to make.
They've both lost it and are either scum or townies that hate town. They've both taken to voting for themselves and are rooting for the other to live.
That's not true. Nothing I have posted all game is untrue.
AbsolutBro
Member
I'm having to collect this from reading the .net site, and then posting from mobile so apologies if my quotes break or something. I am back in the office, and have a couple meetings this morning (now over), but will be around until 1530 EST. Will try to be useful. I'm reading the thread from the top and making notes/reads as I go, so apologies if some of this is repetitive. I also can't use the post count/search features, so apologies again if this is scattered.
Sophia - #300 kind of passingly defends Bronx, who has some teensy tiny heat from Sorian. Not really much to go by.
StanleyPalmtree - Kind of chatty for Stan, actually.
Sorian - #264's response to Pop seemed oddly... not harsh, but serious?. I figured Pop's post/vote was in jest. NAI, obviously, but strange. Even follows up the seriousness of Pop's post in #289. Un-pop-related is the consistent shade thrown Bronx's way early on. Some arguements of which don't even make sense. "I've done this as both scum and town, but Bronx doing it is scummy." I realize there is the "unBronx-like" caveat to Sorian's post, but not everyone plays the same game to game. Guess he sort of clarifies this in #335. Fair enough.
Franconp - First to seriously make any sort of claim (#275), although I suppose that presupposes Bronx's post (#255) is a joke, which I think it obviously is.
Melonrabbit - It may be dumb on my part, but my first issue is the early "survey" post. I tend to not like them as it gives scum something to post about which has 0 impact on gameplay and scum hunting. In this case there were only a handful of responses, but still.
Ty4on - Defends Bronx early on as well, but then takes issue with Sophia doing the same.
AbsolutBro - Me. Included for completeness sake.
Natiko - Good early post (#329), certainly better than mine, along with several useful follow up posts.
CzarTim - CzarTime is hard for me to read for some reason. He has a good number of posts, but I do not get a whole lot out of them. He was definitely more probing in Star Wars, enough to get himself killed even, but this isn't Star Wars and that game had its own issues.
CCS - Second serious claim, and claims vanilla town. Bad town move early on, but somewhat new player I think. Claimed Groose though, who is Link's rival. Strange in a cosplay game to claim someone antagonistic to the series' main character.
*Splinter -
Acohrs - Can't tell if it's new player jitters or just trying to keep up with some of the bigger posters. Random posts all over the place, but nothing that immediately reads "smoke screen" to me.
Cabot -
Kyanrute - Introduces the idea of a lost scum. Not a great move for town, as introducing "what if" role scenarios rarely ends well. Again, I realize the post is almost certainly a joke. Speculates on Ty4on's role in #438 which is just wtf.
Kawl_USC -
Ynnek7 -
Nin1000 - #292 is weird. "What are you willing to do in order not to lose this game?" wut.
Bronx-Man - Early "defense" (if you can really call it that) from Sophia and Ty4on is weird. If Bronx is scum I cannot imagine that Ty4on or Sophia are, because that sort of early jump-to-defense would be weird. Although Ty4on's issue with Sophia's defense post could be a way to be able to brush off any connection later.
Pop-O-Matic -
MagnumBoy20xx - Couple weak voting reasons that, to me, just seem only half thought out and not malicious or sneaky at all.
There were a couple posts pg7/pg14 about my play style and yeah, I am really not great at the early game. I wanted to work on that this game, but with the game starting on a Friday and going over the weekend I just couldn't get here as much as I wanted to.
I should probably update the thread before I post this, but I'm afraid if I do I will spend another hour trying to go back. I realize the list is incomplete. I will make every effort to be online towards day end, which should be ~1800 EST for me.
Sophia - #300 kind of passingly defends Bronx, who has some teensy tiny heat from Sorian. Not really much to go by.
StanleyPalmtree - Kind of chatty for Stan, actually.
Sorian - #264's response to Pop seemed oddly... not harsh, but serious?. I figured Pop's post/vote was in jest. NAI, obviously, but strange. Even follows up the seriousness of Pop's post in #289. Un-pop-related is the consistent shade thrown Bronx's way early on. Some arguements of which don't even make sense. "I've done this as both scum and town, but Bronx doing it is scummy." I realize there is the "unBronx-like" caveat to Sorian's post, but not everyone plays the same game to game. Guess he sort of clarifies this in #335. Fair enough.
Franconp - First to seriously make any sort of claim (#275), although I suppose that presupposes Bronx's post (#255) is a joke, which I think it obviously is.
Melonrabbit - It may be dumb on my part, but my first issue is the early "survey" post. I tend to not like them as it gives scum something to post about which has 0 impact on gameplay and scum hunting. In this case there were only a handful of responses, but still.
Ty4on - Defends Bronx early on as well, but then takes issue with Sophia doing the same.
AbsolutBro - Me. Included for completeness sake.
Natiko - Good early post (#329), certainly better than mine, along with several useful follow up posts.
CzarTim - CzarTime is hard for me to read for some reason. He has a good number of posts, but I do not get a whole lot out of them. He was definitely more probing in Star Wars, enough to get himself killed even, but this isn't Star Wars and that game had its own issues.
CCS - Second serious claim, and claims vanilla town. Bad town move early on, but somewhat new player I think. Claimed Groose though, who is Link's rival. Strange in a cosplay game to claim someone antagonistic to the series' main character.
*Splinter -
Acohrs - Can't tell if it's new player jitters or just trying to keep up with some of the bigger posters. Random posts all over the place, but nothing that immediately reads "smoke screen" to me.
Cabot -
Kyanrute - Introduces the idea of a lost scum. Not a great move for town, as introducing "what if" role scenarios rarely ends well. Again, I realize the post is almost certainly a joke. Speculates on Ty4on's role in #438 which is just wtf.
Kawl_USC -
Ynnek7 -
Nin1000 - #292 is weird. "What are you willing to do in order not to lose this game?" wut.
Bronx-Man - Early "defense" (if you can really call it that) from Sophia and Ty4on is weird. If Bronx is scum I cannot imagine that Ty4on or Sophia are, because that sort of early jump-to-defense would be weird. Although Ty4on's issue with Sophia's defense post could be a way to be able to brush off any connection later.
Pop-O-Matic -
MagnumBoy20xx - Couple weak voting reasons that, to me, just seem only half thought out and not malicious or sneaky at all.
There were a couple posts pg7/pg14 about my play style and yeah, I am really not great at the early game. I wanted to work on that this game, but with the game starting on a Friday and going over the weekend I just couldn't get here as much as I wanted to.
I should probably update the thread before I post this, but I'm afraid if I do I will spend another hour trying to go back. I realize the list is incomplete. I will make every effort to be online towards day end, which should be ~1800 EST for me.
AbsolutBro
Member
Well, not refreshing the thread was a mistake
Alright this got a chuckle out of me
AbsolutBro
Member
CCS, how familiar with Zelda games are you?
Honestly, OOC: never played one if my life.
That's not my issue with her. Where did I say that?
AbsolutBro
Member
Sorry, that was a pretty unclear note. I was referring to this post. It's not directly defending Bronx or anything.
1. [f] Sophia - The votes at the start seem strange because I cant see much behind them. I also feel that town Sophia puts a lot of effort into details and spins around in possible theories. The hasty votes at the start do not fit the image. The other things (the theories and the details that she points out) fit the image though, what makes me more comfortable. A tired sidenote, not that serious and just something that came into my mind: Sophia/melon/Tim/Ty for scum team based on their comments about each other. Mostly throwing shade against each other but some defence there too.
2. [m] StanleyPalmtree - So I am doing these with random.org, randoming numbers between 1-20 so I can pick people in random order. Funnily enough, I got here after I wrote the bit about Stan in Acohrs. Go there and read that instead because that is all there really is besides quality fluff what I certainly appriciate.
3. [m] Sorian - Aggressivity matches to the one game I have played with him but he himself keeps saying that he is the god of the fakers. So thisd be a gut town read then.
4. [m] Franconp - Keeps the kill Kyan narrative from the main thread, like a good memer. Stylepoints awarded. Besides that, I see nothing special. Plenty of questions and things that feel filler-y without knowing his alignment. Present, but the content offered feels easy to produce. To his benefit, he tends to follow up on the things he engages with instead of letting them fade away once the opportunity rises.
5. [f] Melonrabbit - 1st feeling: mania. 2nd: where is the content? 3rd: oh god fuck those notes I made those once, never again. Veeeeery fluffy. Final thought: hmmm. hmmm. Finaler thought: man it is hard to find words for this. Finalest thought: I wonder how bad my scum team guess was. Skimming the thread I was impressed of her. Reading the thread my feelings went completely upside down.
6. [m] Ty4on - Fishing reaction was interesting because he felt the need to respond to it. Couldve just passed it as a silly thing Kyan said. Tons of questions, reminds me of the bit I played in Overwash. Though he is not straight out directing the conversation towards anything, just bringing up talking points.
7. [m] AbsolutBro - Null, but the bits just now give a bit of hope.
8. [m] Natiko - Did not appriciate my scum partner joke. Why was that a thing worth commenting? Confusion he says, but that is all there is at the start anyway I feel. Since I havent touched this point yet might wanna go over it here. Fran and Sorian were the other commenters, Fran did not see the benefit of the play were I serious and Sorian went straight no fun allowed into full judgemental. I found Sorians answer the most reasonable one.
Natiko was quite pleasing to read, apart from the nagging voice in my head that says it all could be fake. But there is effort there and much of it comes without asking. This is of course not a clear sign of alignment, but I feel it is enough to keep my vote away from him for now.
Fake edit: AB too brings up the joke but offers nothing new to the table.
9. [m] CzarTim - The post yesterday where he asks for Franconps preferred vote seems like filler. But it is just a little spec in the whole thing. Good content imo, perhaps the strongest so far (I do these in weird order, call Tim number 12 out of 19). It is the fact that he focuses a lot on tone and context in which the posts are made, something that requires work to do. The weakest link of my mad theory, would not use to prove my madness correct.
11. [m] Splinter - Many so far have used Splints lack of aggressiveness as a justification for their town reads of him. I too get the same feeling in my mind. Yet he is a good roleplayer and I have no doubt he could be faking some things. Besides the aggressiveness, or perhaps to expand the point, my remember scum Splinter being a rather accusatory person who drives at least parts of the discussion forward - towards townies he wants killed. Now I feel he has taken a more investigative role for himself.
12. [m] Acohrs - My feeling previously was that he was all over the place. Not much has happened since then. Out of the two sides Sophia sees in him, I too see the helpful townie in him. Just to note, Stan makes a flimsy sounding comment about trusting Acohrs - scumdar beeps and says scum begging for future #townpoints. And I know, it would not that many points, that is besides the point.
13. [m] Cabot - Contributes - own opinions and questions others. The only ehh thing I found was that he did not feel an inactive lynch was neccesary today and few posts later votes for Absolut.
14. [m] Kyan the Rute the Great - Truly an amazing player. Perfection.
15. [m] Kawl_USC - Kawl is all FUCK THE SYSTEM and some other bits. I like that. Nice counterbalance to all the meanies. Would not vote out because I like the attitude. Yes. That is my reasoning.
16. [m] Ynnek7 - Nothing new here, still bothered about some of the few bits of his few words being straight from my personal scum handbook.
17. [m] Nin1000 - Kawl has the attitude advantage, nin has the avatar one. Sophia summed my feelings on nin already: more proactive than usual, but nothing else stands out.
18. [m] Bronx-Man - The whole kill Bronx bit at the start might be interesting reading later. Who engaged, who did not and such. There is not a lot here to think about and after reading everything said so far I do not have an impression about him. That is not a good thing.
19. [m] Pop-O-Matic - Nothing. Pixar scum Pop was on the silent side too. Just a note, would be a random lynch.
20. [m] MagnumBoy20xx - Absolut vote makes no sense. Could see myself voting for him but he is not that connected to others. Kinda want to go for the big fish even though they are harder to catch.
acohrs/ccs in thinking next but for now
VOTE: melonrabbit
2. [m] StanleyPalmtree - So I am doing these with random.org, randoming numbers between 1-20 so I can pick people in random order. Funnily enough, I got here after I wrote the bit about Stan in Acohrs. Go there and read that instead because that is all there really is besides quality fluff what I certainly appriciate.
3. [m] Sorian - Aggressivity matches to the one game I have played with him but he himself keeps saying that he is the god of the fakers. So thisd be a gut town read then.
4. [m] Franconp - Keeps the kill Kyan narrative from the main thread, like a good memer. Stylepoints awarded. Besides that, I see nothing special. Plenty of questions and things that feel filler-y without knowing his alignment. Present, but the content offered feels easy to produce. To his benefit, he tends to follow up on the things he engages with instead of letting them fade away once the opportunity rises.
5. [f] Melonrabbit - 1st feeling: mania. 2nd: where is the content? 3rd: oh god fuck those notes I made those once, never again. Veeeeery fluffy. Final thought: hmmm. hmmm. Finaler thought: man it is hard to find words for this. Finalest thought: I wonder how bad my scum team guess was. Skimming the thread I was impressed of her. Reading the thread my feelings went completely upside down.
6. [m] Ty4on - Fishing reaction was interesting because he felt the need to respond to it. Couldve just passed it as a silly thing Kyan said. Tons of questions, reminds me of the bit I played in Overwash. Though he is not straight out directing the conversation towards anything, just bringing up talking points.
7. [m] AbsolutBro - Null, but the bits just now give a bit of hope.
8. [m] Natiko - Did not appriciate my scum partner joke. Why was that a thing worth commenting? Confusion he says, but that is all there is at the start anyway I feel. Since I havent touched this point yet might wanna go over it here. Fran and Sorian were the other commenters, Fran did not see the benefit of the play were I serious and Sorian went straight no fun allowed into full judgemental. I found Sorians answer the most reasonable one.
Natiko was quite pleasing to read, apart from the nagging voice in my head that says it all could be fake. But there is effort there and much of it comes without asking. This is of course not a clear sign of alignment, but I feel it is enough to keep my vote away from him for now.
Fake edit: AB too brings up the joke but offers nothing new to the table.
9. [m] CzarTim - The post yesterday where he asks for Franconps preferred vote seems like filler. But it is just a little spec in the whole thing. Good content imo, perhaps the strongest so far (I do these in weird order, call Tim number 12 out of 19). It is the fact that he focuses a lot on tone and context in which the posts are made, something that requires work to do. The weakest link of my mad theory, would not use to prove my madness correct.
11. [m] Splinter - Many so far have used Splints lack of aggressiveness as a justification for their town reads of him. I too get the same feeling in my mind. Yet he is a good roleplayer and I have no doubt he could be faking some things. Besides the aggressiveness, or perhaps to expand the point, my remember scum Splinter being a rather accusatory person who drives at least parts of the discussion forward - towards townies he wants killed. Now I feel he has taken a more investigative role for himself.
12. [m] Acohrs - My feeling previously was that he was all over the place. Not much has happened since then. Out of the two sides Sophia sees in him, I too see the helpful townie in him. Just to note, Stan makes a flimsy sounding comment about trusting Acohrs - scumdar beeps and says scum begging for future #townpoints. And I know, it would not that many points, that is besides the point.
13. [m] Cabot - Contributes - own opinions and questions others. The only ehh thing I found was that he did not feel an inactive lynch was neccesary today and few posts later votes for Absolut.
14. [m] Kyan the Rute the Great - Truly an amazing player. Perfection.
15. [m] Kawl_USC - Kawl is all FUCK THE SYSTEM and some other bits. I like that. Nice counterbalance to all the meanies. Would not vote out because I like the attitude. Yes. That is my reasoning.
16. [m] Ynnek7 - Nothing new here, still bothered about some of the few bits of his few words being straight from my personal scum handbook.
17. [m] Nin1000 - Kawl has the attitude advantage, nin has the avatar one. Sophia summed my feelings on nin already: more proactive than usual, but nothing else stands out.
18. [m] Bronx-Man - The whole kill Bronx bit at the start might be interesting reading later. Who engaged, who did not and such. There is not a lot here to think about and after reading everything said so far I do not have an impression about him. That is not a good thing.
19. [m] Pop-O-Matic - Nothing. Pixar scum Pop was on the silent side too. Just a note, would be a random lynch.
20. [m] MagnumBoy20xx - Absolut vote makes no sense. Could see myself voting for him but he is not that connected to others. Kinda want to go for the big fish even though they are harder to catch.
acohrs/ccs in thinking next but for now
VOTE: melonrabbit
Which was the serious claim that I did? Because any answer to the question "are you scum?" can't be taken seriously.
ok that is a good one
I didn't vote for ab because he was inactive alone, I think there could be scum there, and he's inactive. Was hoping for some posts before day end. I need to read his when I get in the house.
I'm confused by your Melon read I thought you initially thought scum then was impressed?
Help.
I'm confused by your Melon read I thought you initially thought scum then was impressed?
Help.
AbsolutBro
Member
Going to be honest, phrased that way I feel pretty stupid. But the "even have a PM that says so" or whatever made me think it was a more serious response than Bronx's "asked my scum team lol"
Oh yes, when I said 1st thought, that was the 1st thought of the re-read. Whoops.
Initial feeling was that she was contributing a lot and in meaningful ways. When I read her posts again, I did not see much there at all. I did the reading in a random order to entertain myself and she was one of the final four I went through. Thus, I feel at that point I had formed good enough opinion of others so I could compare her to everyone else. Upon reading, I got a very fluffy feeling out of her posts. There is a lot of them, but I don't feel that they contribute that much at all, when compared to others. Quantity, not quality. The main issue I have is the complete reversal of opinion I had about her.
That last page was a shit show, I vote Acohrs over CCS, mostly because CCS has been a blind spot for me all day since I have no meta to fall on and he just comes off as window dressing so far.
In other news, I liked AB's list and thoughts, still going with my town read there, he had more to go with and made good insight out of it.
Tim, what exactly were you hoping to get from Sophia with that random vote and no follow-up?
In other news, I liked AB's list and thoughts, still going with my town read there, he had more to go with and made good insight out of it.
Tim, what exactly were you hoping to get from Sophia with that random vote and no follow-up?
By soon I mean an hour BTW
I could ask the same about your vote on me. You've barely talked to me.
AbsolutBro
Member
Literally my PM was the first time I've ever heard the name in my life.
saw said scum got fake flavor, what is the point of this?
I've made my thoughts quite clear on you, I'm voting for you because I think you're scum, not because I want to talk to you. Nothing you've done has really changed my mind. Tim specifically voted with a "let's tango" like he wanted to get something out of the exchange then ghosted.
And going completely anti-thesis to what you said last night, also with what you said in the vote, you want to gain something from the interaction, like another fake clear like you did with Ty4on.
You're actually serious with this claim?
AbsolutBro
Member
It's a cosplay game, so roles are important. If he had no idea who the character was he could have just grabbed it from the "safe list" without looking it up.
I make it a point to avoid asking for roles, but CCS already claimed so I do not feel bad looking into the claim.
Yes. Groose is my character, and I've never played a Zelda game.
CCS goes strange without much poking. Could've passed the claim as a joke, that was my impression of the post when it was made. But no, full committal and then it just goes deeper from there, again, pretty much on his own volition. Committing the name is pointless when it has been publicly said that fake claims exist. Nonsensical enough to be town? The scum play I see here is quite risky. I don't get the town play if there is one.
Acohrs then responds to madness with madness, when he could've very well just not participated or at least he could've said pretty much anything else. I don't see how this is towny. The scum play... ehhh. Responding to madness with madness? Fearing that uncontrollable CCS makes the situation confusing enough so town becomes afraid of voting him and people switch votes to Acohrs? Reaching far here I feel.
Would vote for Acohrs if ties need be broken.
Acohrs then responds to madness with madness, when he could've very well just not participated or at least he could've said pretty much anything else. I don't see how this is towny. The scum play... ehhh. Responding to madness with madness? Fearing that uncontrollable CCS makes the situation confusing enough so town becomes afraid of voting him and people switch votes to Acohrs? Reaching far here I feel.
Would vote for Acohrs if ties need be broken.
Thing is no one, including you who asked me the q, bothered to respond to my post except for her. And her response was 'go ahead and vote for me then.' I've made those same posts as scum when people scum read me without a vote. Feels like scum guilt.
Melon's frustration over getting called out for the notes felt genuine, and I didn't really have another target.
Melon's frustration over getting called out for the notes felt genuine, and I didn't really have another target.