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Legend of Zelda Mafia |OT| A Lynch to the Past
- Thread starter Sawneeks
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1152 and 1160.
Both are trying to ensure we focus largely on the day ending votes and only on acohrs and CCS (going so far as to not include you in the discussion despite his starting point with you in second).
I say well idk if anything can be gleaned from the super last minute vote flurry. He agrees, but insist that it's still something that we really need to focus on here and resolve before the end of the day. If it was w/w scum might try to get out in front of it and make sure we focus on the flurry of votes moving, where in reality scum doesn't care one way or another. He says it's a puzzle we need to solve, but I don't think it's solvable without another key piece of information: CCS's alignment.
Both are trying to ensure we focus largely on the day ending votes and only on acohrs and CCS (going so far as to not include you in the discussion despite his starting point with you in second).
I say well idk if anything can be gleaned from the super last minute vote flurry. He agrees, but insist that it's still something that we really need to focus on here and resolve before the end of the day. If it was w/w scum might try to get out in front of it and make sure we focus on the flurry of votes moving, where in reality scum doesn't care one way or another. He says it's a puzzle we need to solve, but I don't think it's solvable without another key piece of information: CCS's alignment.
Referring to day 2s vote versus day 1.
I can quote the specific post but your vote comes in before Bronx did his dumb shit today about well if you guys reaaaalllly think its CCS.
I didn't like your vote at the time with the info available.
Nice try though. You is being defensive.
1131 is your vote. Down in the 119Xs Bronx comes in, I still disagree with the stance you are talking regarding Bronxs day one justification, however I do agree with the assessment that his reactions in the later series of posts are also hot garbage, which was the top quote you grabbed earlier.
That makes sense, you had quoted me in the post before and thought you were still talking to me.
Bottom half of 1348, and 1353/1354 are all talking to you for clarification.
I do not like your Bronx vote starting today, but I don't think it outweighs the town lean I get from a town CCS flip.
Want to be more clear?
Partial info lynches are kind of boring sure. But you can play a little more conservatively day 2 after getting scum day 1. Doesn't mean we want to fall into the trap of playing conservatively for the whole game, but I like the play of it today.
I sidetracked to reading CzarTim's posts, so I haven't gotten to Nin yet, but a few things of note from his earlier Day 1 posts.
Still reading some more.
- He was on me from the get go, which is actually giving me a slight gut town read. - Followup post. - More pushing a little bit later.
- His early initial stance on Bronx on Day 1
- He has some dialogue with acohrs - acohrs proposes lynching the least active - Tim responds
- This post, where he finds me weird, and responds to Bronx suggesting that me and melon know Bronx is town, and we're trying to get "easy brownie points"
- Feels my contributions have been good, and switches to Magnum. This one I don't feel as good about.
Still reading some more.
If you have objections, just say it. No reason to do this fake outraged crap.
like you are doing atm ? Just asked what was wrong with him.
You coming out of the bushes is laughable though.
Thanks for that.
See my post above. Want to be more clear?
Just wanted to see how you would react, nothing more to it.
Do you think Bronx came out of the start of D2 well?
The implication of asking what was wrong with him implies, that you do in fact, find something wrong.
We are certainly not pressed for time right now. Therefore, I ask you: Instead of merely expressing the fact that you find something with Kawl wrong, please tell us in more detail what that actually is.
Also, if you have something objectionable regarding me posting, then please by all means tell us that too.
Ah you meant natiko and the item/item theft. Thought you were talking about the kills and were confused.
So you just trolled him for a reaction? And then threw shade at me?
If my past memory of your town game is correct, this behavior seems uncharacteristic with you. You are not usually outright antagonistic, and it does not give me a good gut feeling. :\
Soph, the part of your first post I do not like is your claim I was pushing for a sophia/sorian scum team. I have no idea how you could read that exchange and draw that conclusion. Ty made the claim that it was unlikely, and quoted a post that did not really support it. I asked him about it, and when he clarified, I agreed with him.
I also do not like the fact that you keep using CCS voting for you as some kind of sign, when I think it's much more telling that the confirmed scum did not vote for you were still in the running. (He went with sorian who no one was voting, iirc)
I also do not like the fact that you keep using CCS voting for you as some kind of sign, when I think it's much more telling that the confirmed scum did not vote for you were still in the running. (He went with sorian who no one was voting, iirc)
No I don't. But I'm just now getting there for the reread. Will have updated hot take soon.
UNVOTE
I don't have a full read list, a few players who I haven't heard from or I'm just not sure on. However:
Town: Cab, Kyan, Natiko
Lean town: Nin, Kawl,
Lean scum: Sophia, Stan,
No strong scum reads.
Fair enough. I did not notice that post was tied to Ty4on. In retrospect, you are correct in that it does not support my initial conclusion. I apologize for that.
As for CCS, it's hard to say what was going on there because we don't know if acohrs and CCS were both scum or not. Coincidentally, I have not voted for CCS yet today, and am not completely sold on lynching him.
Related, but seeing as you believe CCS is town, what do you think of Kwl's stance here?
Waiting for Terra to deliver.
OR, to correct myself, seeing as you believe CCS is not scum.
I had a brainfart due to being on the phone.
The interesting ones there for me are Stanley and Splinter, given I believe they were the most active.
what about melon? a quick search found nothing but a quote that of kawl that had her mentioned, to which he was responding to kawl mispelling his name.
#412 is interesting. Melonrabbit thought acohrs was talking about her when he was talking about Magnum. I'm not drawing any clear conclusion, but it seems odd to misinterpret your mate's post like that. It doesn't look W/W.
Not sure about you guys, but I know I myself struggle to read posts by mates, it feels redundant.
From about 1190 through 1210 or so:
I like how both Kyan and natiko come off here. Kyan especially and his posts (1203 and 1206 in particular along with his recent posts about interactions) have me moving him towards a pretty firm town lean actually. Bronx comes off looking sloppy and especially the shade throwing at both Kyan and natiko when I think their remarks are perfectly valid stand out.
But I see it more as t/t frustration for some reason. Can't put words to why though.
1209 is just a Garbo post though. And teamed up with 1241 makes me wary of assigning the role of frustrated town to Bronx. His own internal logic isn't consistent. Either he believes the logic that one of the two, and exactly one of the two, was scum or he was lying in his first post where he apologized to CCS.
I like how both Kyan and natiko come off here. Kyan especially and his posts (1203 and 1206 in particular along with his recent posts about interactions) have me moving him towards a pretty firm town lean actually. Bronx comes off looking sloppy and especially the shade throwing at both Kyan and natiko when I think their remarks are perfectly valid stand out.
But I see it more as t/t frustration for some reason. Can't put words to why though.
1209 is just a Garbo post though. And teamed up with 1241 makes me wary of assigning the role of frustrated town to Bronx. His own internal logic isn't consistent. Either he believes the logic that one of the two, and exactly one of the two, was scum or he was lying in his first post where he apologized to CCS.
To explain myself, I was looking for total absence of interaction between acohrs and X. I wasn't looking at the content of the posts and so melon made it to the list with this:
...what on a re-search lookes like the only post where acohrs interacted with melon. There was at least one other case like this, the person being myself. In my case, acohrs' only interaction with me was to respond to my shitpost with a shitpost.
Let me recap this one more time.
D1: There are two players with the highest amount of scum reads. The odds of one of them being scum is likely, the odds of both being scum is unlikely. Feeling that achors play doesn't line up with his scum play in Pop Mafia, I believe CCS is the one scum of the two and I vote for them.
End of D1: I am wrong, as acohrs is lynched and exposed as acum.
D2 start: I apologize to CCS for my vote on him and to explain to CzarTim why I voted the way I did. I apologize because, again, the odds of both players being scum is unlikely.
D2 continued: Multiple players start riding my ass for apology to CCS. Apparently in their minds, it's not unlikely at all that both are scum. I get frustrated by this, so I go back and vote for CCS again. Multiple different people start riding my ass for doing this as well.
So yeah, here's where we are.
Like I said, it feels a bit boring and kills town's momentum. I know boring is a weird word to use, but what I mean by that is I think it's important to keep town engaged and policy lynches often do the opposite unless it's a turbo. We are sacrificing new info today vs confirming old info. Perhaps confirming the old info is more important, but I'm not sure if I agree with Karl saying the good outweighs the bad.
fwiw I am town reading Karl regardless.
still waiting for dem scum reads, bro.
yeah, this time o forgot to tell everyone that this was going to be nin 3.0
In the end i never leave people with a good gut feeling but in the past that was enough.
no need to make friends here.
List will come up in a second.
Who is trash and who is litter.
It's almost as if I haven't been able to do scum hunting like I did on D1 because I've had to spend a majority of time explaining a vote I made on D1 to multiple people.
But I will go back and post scum reads by the end of the night. Too busy now since I'm meeting up with some friends for the evening.
lol why do you feel obligated to post defending yourself instead of trying to give us your thinking with who's scum and why.
Don't worry about answering that just now, it can wait till after dem scum reads.
Yea man I 100% follow that logic. I specifically took umbrage with the wording of 1241. It implies that you are in fact still scum reading him. Which doesn't follow the internal logic as you described. I read you as frustrated townie before that post.
You're not explaining anything new to me here.
I wouldn't describe it as a policy lynch, unless you put partial info lynches under that category for some reason. I guess I disagree in that it's confirming old info, I think it's a high enough possibility that CCS is scum that his 'town' flip is up on the air to me. If you don't think CCS could be scum I agree the good does not out weigh the bad. But what exactly in his play is helping you discern between unhelpful town and scum so as to feel so strongly that it's old info that CCS is town?