Let's talk about a "Switch 2 Max" Console
- Thread starter Celcius
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Yeah he got the BK analogy wrong.
It's Nintendo isn't BK. You can't just order the console your way.
CAn I get a Switch with no screen. HOld the joycons. EXtra gpu and extra cpu please. A slice of TB storage. And pile on the RAm.
PUt some Ram on the grill please!!! (the cashier turns and shouts.)
What would you like for your side?
Just 1 Pro controller please.
Anything to sip?
Welcome Tour.
Reads back the order. OK. That will be $1139.13. There's going to a short wait. We just put the RAM on the grill.
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Hudo
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Why are Americans like this?
Lokaum D+
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Yeah, but most Nintendo games can be played just fone with pro controller, not everyone is into Nintendo gimmics.
For exemple i played most of my Switch 1 games on Yuzu using a Dualsense controller and i had 0 problems not having joycons .
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kevboard
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hououinkyouma00
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What games? The 9 games out of thousands that require joycons that already require you to own OG joycons on switch 2 and Mario Party?
Much like the Switch Lite you would just require joycons. It's not like the system wouldn't be able to connect to joycons….
Baemono
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I dunno, I don't see the default controller setting not being sold by default, like the Wii U gamepad not being sold in a special Wii U bundle which would have the pro controller instead
But we're talking about hypothesis here so everything is on the table at the end
existensmaximum
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Why would they do that though? Because the Switch sold so badly, the Switch 2 is selling really badly and probably will keep selling badly..?
Lokaum D+
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Cause options ? Like i said already on this thread, 99% of the time i dont play portable so a home console would be a better fit for me than SW hyprid system but they ll not do something like that since SW2 is selling really well and now Nintendo are 100% sure that they dont need to invest in powerfull tech since they can sell millions of their overpriced hybrid console, sadly Gamecube was the last Nintendo powerfull console.
Baemono
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But, that's like a calzone, but in a burger bread instead of pizza, then it's just a burger with peperoni thengermans reading this:
I am so confused by this
Hudo
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Touché. I have legitimately forgotten about this.germans reading this:
hououinkyouma00
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Hudo
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I hope so, too.
Poppinfresh
Gold Member
No.
Nintendo already knows what its winning formula is. They will likely release a Switch 2 Lite and a Switch 2 OLED at some point and be done with it.
Nintendo isn't chasing graphics and cutting-edge tech. They are making solid first-party games and offering good third-party exclusives. Everything else is just icing on the cake for them.
existensmaximum
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I would love that option too. But I ask you again, what's in it for Nintendo? Why would they release such a thing? The Switch is one of the best selling consoles of all time and the Switch 2 is doing amazingly well so far too. They have 0 incentive to do what you're suggesting.
Lokaum D+
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Yeah and yet Switch one only got to the mark of 150million consoles sold cause Switch lite sold 25million copies, what is in It for Nintendo ? Money, but instead of doing a home console version, they ll for sure make another lite version down the road.
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Gameplay Gods Bless
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Been asking for this since the Switch 1 Light got announced. But Nintendo is a piece of shit company that loves being retarded. Hopefully this time around we at least get a Switch 2 Pro like the DSi and N3DS.
existensmaximum
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If they do, it will be because they will make more money off a lite version than a home console version. For them and all the game developers, adding this home version would only create problems, not solve any.
For them, that is. Because they are super happy with their sales, believe me.
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Tobimacoss
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Isn't Switch 2 Max a PC?
Has it been cracked yet?
Has it been cracked yet?
cartman414
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Some might say the base Switch is an unsatisfying middle ground between portable (not portable enough to pocket) and console (generation behind everything else).
S0ULZB0URNE
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I can see a Super Switch 2 probably around PS6 launch.
EDMIX
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No.
That makes zero sense as that is also the market they failed in.... ie Wii U.
The Switch 1 and 2 can already be played on a TV, I don't see the benefit and I don't get who this would be for and you already got an answer to if anyone actually cares about that market for Nintendo games with the Wii U. We literally had Wii U games move millions of units, simply just appearing on Switch.
It wasn't the games, it was that the vast majority of Nintendo's install base is the portable market. I simply don't believe most Switch users are playing on TV, shit I play mostly on the TV myself and even I get I'm not the majority here... so a Switch as a dedicated home console sounds like a massive flop
kat_on_the_roof
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I don't need a traditional Nintendo console. I'm very happy with the Switch's handheld/dock system. On the one hand, I think it can't hurt to have more options for people who want a stationary console, but on the other hand, I'm worried it will be as difficult as with Microsoft's Series S/X.
cireza
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I have the feeling they put themselves into a corner. The Switch 2 is huge, expensive, the battery life is pretty poor, and the gain in power isn't exactly impressive. It feels like it was a struggle to gain that little power, and the price to obtain it was high : huge console, poor battery, high retail price. And they put a shitty screen on top of it.
How are they going to make a smaller Switch 2 with decent price and battery in this situation ? Is this only feasible ?
Also, how are they going to iterate again on the same formula in 6 years ? Diminishing returns.
How are they going to make a smaller Switch 2 with decent price and battery in this situation ? Is this only feasible ?
Also, how are they going to iterate again on the same formula in 6 years ? Diminishing returns.
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BlackTron
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They're still using the same basic design intended for when Covid struck. They can always go lower nm. I can only hope the screen decisions were in some part motivated by trying to squeeze out 2 hours of battery, which would be alleviated in the revision. Knowing the Switch 2 is huge thanks to the nm they went with, I called it a draw because it forced it have larger screens and joycon, but that's just personal preference having multiple consoles. It's no direct replacement for Switch 1, but maybe it will be by the time they're ready (saved up 1 more sale than PS2, or something)
Baemono
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What
cireza
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It's not substantial enough in my opinion. Not at that price.
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Baemono
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100$/€ difference for 1.5 gen gap not enough ?
cireza
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I don't know where you are taking your numbers (and don't care), but from what I see we are barely at PS4 level which isn't exactly outstanding. That CPU is going to exclude the console from all big third party titles. It just doesn't feel worth the price.
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Susurrus
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The home console box market is already flooded with Xbox and Playstation stuff.
While Nintendo's home consoles are hit or miss for popularity, they've always dominated handheld without skipping a step. That's why this hybrid console is perfect for them, and it's no wonder they made the current gen a power-up of last gen.
I think at this point, most people trying for the high end home-only consoles are already on the competition. Nintendo is going to stick with what they're good at.
While Nintendo's home consoles are hit or miss for popularity, they've always dominated handheld without skipping a step. That's why this hybrid console is perfect for them, and it's no wonder they made the current gen a power-up of last gen.
I think at this point, most people trying for the high end home-only consoles are already on the competition. Nintendo is going to stick with what they're good at.
Baemono
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I don't know where you take your numbers but the base PS4 doesn't support 4k nor 120fps
cireza
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Who cares when third party games will not be ported because the CPU sucks, and the few ones who will be ported will struggle to reach 30fps ?
4k and 120fps are nice things to put on the box, but they will never be used. Still waiting for 8k on PS5 and Series X.
Baemono
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Tams
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The games are of course incredibly important, but yes, they are not the foundation.
The last successful Nintendo home console that was not a fluke that caught the zeitgeist, was the N64.
Their portable consoles have always done well. The 3DS only didn't in comparison to the fluke and exception that was the Wii, and a modest price cut soon sorted that out.
Woopah
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The last data Nintendo gave showed that at least 70% of Switch owners were playing on the TV, so its a big part of the audience. Plus games that don't work in handheld mode like Ring Fit, Switch Sports and Mario Party Superstars have all sold big numbers. So a lot of Nintendo's audience are interested in TV play.
Having said, I think the vast majority of Nintendo's TV audience are already happy with the TV experience they get from a Switch / Switch 2, so I don't think a Switch 2 Max will add many sales.
cireza
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Picking a Falcom game validates my point lol.
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Baemono
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Sure. I'll say « Silksong » you'll say « doesn't count », I'll say Metroid Prime 4, you'll still say « it doesn't count », I know how the narrative works
cireza
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Of course it won't count because neither of these corresponds to what I said :
There is no narrative here, the only thing there is, is your inability at understanding what I wrote and answering totally off the mark. You talk about moving the goalpost, but this is exactly what you did.
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EDMIX
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Strong doubt...
Kacho
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About what?