I know right!! I'd jump in there right away!!! I'm just a bitch who hates non-hot dudes!!!
What bullshit honestly.
Let's talk about catcalling
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I know right!! I'd jump in there right away!!! I'm just a bitch who hates non-hot dudes!!!
What bullshit honestly.
ClosingADoor
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She did that because she was being harassed and wanted to fight back.
If you've ever cycled through London, especially as a woman, you'd understand.
Daffy Duck
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Oh I can fully understand her being pissed, she has every right to feel violated, but the fact that the aggressor was such pond life anyway, who knows how they could have reacted to that and further escalated things.
excelsiorlef
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Then don't post in them?
GAF is certainly not always this fabled liberal echo chamber and a lot of times some new people are reached by these posts
i really can't sis. some guys truly think women are just a set of hormones that occasionally get ideas
Messofanego
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"How can words be sexual harassment? How am I supposed to chat up girls if I can't do this? If I can't give out compliments? Everything I say could be misconstrued into me being a creep. People just don't know how to take compliments anymore. It's in men's nature to be aggressive in their advances. I catcalled someone and they liked it, so I'm going to use this anecdote as power. Is this just an American thing? It's just PC culture."
Some of the catcallers are attempting to start a conversation. Some even don't use any inherently sexist language. Still catcalling. It's the context.
hydrophilic attack
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Hm, maybe. I looked it up myself, and from what I found, it seems to derive from a loud method of voicing displeasure at the cast in theatrical productions. A loud whistle sound that was similar to calls of a cat in heat. Thus cat calling. Then the term was later used for making the same whistling sounds at women
Looney Toons tells me that this sad shit is, to some degree, a generational artifact.However, the awkwardness with which this blunt, stupid, and incredibly misogynistic instrument is wielded has only grown in the modern age of piss-poor communication
Before my time, I suppose. I'm 42, and I've never once thought to myself - that person is quite attractive! I should let them know how attractive I think they are by being as loud and obnoxious as possible! I know there are horrible people who do it, just as I know there are stupid kids who do not know any better doing it. I think it's fine to appreciate all of the beautiful things in the world, including people! Just do it without being some weirdo, misogynistic asshole.
Not as much of as an echochamber as you might think. They've certainly quieted down (or been "quieted") over the years, but I have to imagine there are still plenty of folks here with views that many others would find at odds with their own.
Before my time, I suppose. I'm 42, and I've never once thought to myself - that person is quite attractive! I should let them know how attractive I think they are by being as loud and obnoxious as possible! I know there are horrible people who do it, just as I know there are stupid kids who do not know any better doing it. I think it's fine to appreciate all of the beautiful things in the world, including people! Just do it without being some weirdo, misogynistic asshole.
Not as much of as an echochamber as you might think. They've certainly quieted down (or been "quieted") over the years, but I have to imagine there are still plenty of folks here with views that many others would find at odds with their own.
Well, that's basically what catcalling is. Let's say they said one harmless line, what would that be in your eyes. 'You're pretty!' or something? Now imagine being a woman and getting that thrown at you all the time. For many women, this is a daily reality. I see it all the time with my female friends and my own girlfriend. It leads to this incredibly paranoid state of mind - and every single one of those catcallers are adding to that. Women already have to keep an eye out for whatever some guy might do or say, and when there are constantly some jackasses clearly expressing sexual intent, that just gets increasingly infuriating. All because some idiots don't know how to actually talk to people as actual humans.
Again, there's a difference between catcalling and opening a conversation/flirting. The latter involves actually bothering to treat someone as a human being, the former is just shouting random shit at somebody, without ever bothering imagining what that must be like for the one on the receiving end and what that does to their self-esteem, self-worth and feeling of safety in public spaces.
Agreed with the first part, about the second part: it's fine to judge people, or be sexually attracted to someone you just happen to see. That's only human. It's all about knowing not to force your own primal thoughts on somebody without them wanting any of that, like you said. It's verbal unrequested dick pics.
pigeon interrupted
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It's utterly pathetic. On occasion it is one man but more often than not it's two or a group. I assume then it's for the alpha male to prove himself in front of his sad minions. It's always unwelcome and often threatening and demeaning.
When I was 15 a group of older men catcalled my 15 y/o friend who told them to F off. The guy jumped out the car and grabbed her, threatened to throw her in this river. Then proceeded to ask her to go out with him. We managed to get rid of him, luckily. She said this wasn't the first time something like this happened. Check your testosterone and entitlement you sad monkeys.
When I was 15 a group of older men catcalled my 15 y/o friend who told them to F off. The guy jumped out the car and grabbed her, threatened to throw her in this river. Then proceeded to ask her to go out with him. We managed to get rid of him, luckily. She said this wasn't the first time something like this happened. Check your testosterone and entitlement you sad monkeys.
hydrophilic attack
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gaf is it ok to grind against someone in the club
if they seem into you, that seems the standard way to signal more sexual interest according to my observations
but if they're not actually interested it's sort of molestation
and asking for consent seems difficult in a loud club environment
so how do you do it, wait for them to grab your dick first?
if they seem into you, that seems the standard way to signal more sexual interest according to my observations
but if they're not actually interested it's sort of molestation
and asking for consent seems difficult in a loud club environment
so how do you do it, wait for them to grab your dick first?
The intent of the catcaller isn't really to actually compliment the catcallee or have her feel better about herself.
By saying "smile, you're hot" they're implicitly putting themselves into a position where their validation might seem like you should care about it and you should listen to their suggestions / commands. - and they don't even need to be asked / invited to judge your looks.
Just like a shitposter who never actually reads the entire OP or cares about the actual discussion. It's always just about marking your territory / asserting some weird kind of dominance.
Kingpin Rogers
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I'd be too shy to catcall, not that I'd do it anyway. How do males generally feel about being catcalled btw? I'd like it as it'd show that someone finds me attractive.
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SonicMegaDrive
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Many years ago I had to deal with some middle-aged construction workers catcalling my then 15-year old sister. That was fun.
When I was younger and it happened to me as a guy, it made me feel like I was being made fun of, and that there's no way it was positive or honest, it was done just to trick me or make me embarrassed. Of course, since I'm male the context of catcalling from the other gender is completely different, but I still felt like I wanted them to just stop bringing attention to me.
excelsiorlef
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It was once said many may many moons that a man uttering the right words and emitting the right sounds on the right frequencies on a street would so enrapture the genitals of a passing maiden that she would lose herself in lust and return with the man to his domicile for heavy petting and even more. It was said that the men ought to do it frequently as the more experience they got the likelier it was that maiden may even begin to purrr and reward that man eternally for this great sonar gift he bestowed upon her.
This was to be known as the Cat Call because women were thought to be like cats, roaming wild and in need of taming by the brave and generous men on the street corners.
Alas the exact words, sounds and frequencies were lost to the times and the exact magical science that could tame the illustrious beasts that are women can only be approximated by trial and error, and so with grace of their for fathers, and in their honour, every man who cat calls in these modern times, is an adventurer and a scientist hoping to find once again for all mankind that sonal elixir, that auditory holy grail to save our women from the modern wilderness .
Actually it seems to be a old theater term for a noise maker audiences having negative reaction to a show used and the name stuck because the sound the noisemaker made was said to sound like cats. It probably got expanded from there before settling at its usage now as the experience of men shouting and hollering at women produces a similar negative feeling as hearing that noisemaker. God knows it does when men do it to me.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=catcal
Straight Edge
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My gf can't take the dog to the tree lawn without someone hollering or honking every damn time. She started wearing my big ass coat and hat to look like a dude.
I wouldn't use the word gross, but I do think it's equally stupid. I know people who go through instagram feeds of unknown girls liking their pictures and/or making remarks, and it makes me smh and ask "why?" for about the same reason.
Although I understand that most people might disagree on me on that one and do it themselves
TatteredHat
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I don't think there's much to talk about, GAF is the last place where I'd expect to find people who catcall.
Unless you just wanted to read pages of people agreeing with you.
Unless you just wanted to read pages of people agreeing with you.
Nah, it's pretty dumb.
Billy_Pilgrim
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This sort of thing is the mark of a dickhead. Why would you even consider it? Baffles me.
And that's fucking weird
Fantastapotamus
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I've seen this thing yellow emoji thing in the OP a couple of times now but I can't discern what it is or what it means...
I, for the record, am terrible at talking to people so the mere idea of shouting "Hey pretty lady" (which is what I assume all those people yell) at a random person on the street almost makes me faint
I, for the record, am terrible at talking to people so the mere idea of shouting "Hey pretty lady" (which is what I assume all those people yell) at a random person on the street almost makes me faint
It's a clapping emoji...
Two hands clapping together.
Clapping emoji, you know, to illustrate clapping after every word to better get your point across.
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Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Not "folks" just me because I'm apparently an old man now :/
Do...do people do that? I would find that more annoying and distracting. I even find it annoying in written form. Guess that's why I never made the connection.
Chuckie
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Teachers used to do this when teaching syllables when I was a kid
A clap after eacht syllable though, not word like in your example haha.Lollipop Dave
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Not sure if you're calling me a shitposter or using it as an example :x but yeah, I'm starting to get it in regards to this specific situation and can see now that I was looking at it with a very narrow perspective solely based on my own experiences.
Yea sometimes. That's why you see the emoji used in the OP for example, it's an established thing. Hell I do it on occasion when I'm trying to be funny. It's not a frequent thing in my experience; they're usually doing it when they're already annoyed at a person to begin with.
i understand the emoji, but i didn't know this to be a thing people do.
So kinda the vocal/motoric equivalent of "Writing. Stuff. Like. This."?
John Kowalski
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I thought that was a taco emoji.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Ah okay, thanks.
Also, to get back on topic, as I said I would never do it but even if I felt comfortable doing it I wouldn't. It just sounds like it's fucking annoying at best.
Yea basically.
But then you get folks clappin hella off beat
I mean, have you seen AllGamer's posts
not at all. i was just using a forum shitposter as a compareable example for people engaging in 'communication' with their main interest not being a conversation, but merely self validation.
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