Bernoulli
M2 slut

LG unveils 2024 OLED TVs: B4, C4, G4, M4 – MLA in 83", Chromecast, 144Hz
Also Alpha 11 procesor and webOS upgrades

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Really tempting to upgrade my G1 to a G4.
Same here. Also want to go to 83" this time around. Good to see the MLA panel at this size also. Finally a year to upgrade.Really tempting to upgrade my G1 to a G4.
I would wait to see Samsung and Sony's lineup
They still make them "too small" to be considered.I would wait to see Samsung and Sony's lineup
Don't think LG will do a QD-OLED as that uses Samsung panels. Not impossible, though.G4 looks tempting, but maybe I wait for a QD-OLED from LG.
I agree. I wanna get at least 5 years out of each set. I got my C9 in 2020, so I'll await until CES 2025 and see what the crack is with the next line up.Y'all must have some eyesight to be noticing the difference in PQ in these incremental upgrades either that or money to burn. I was expecting a huge difference in my C3 in comparison to the aging the C10 and nope, I ain't seeing it, sure it's slightly better but not fuck me time to shoot the C10 and put it out of its misery, are these new sets really going to be any different? Are we not at diminishing returns now until some new tech arrives or microLED becomes mainstream?
Y'all must have some eyesight to be noticing the difference in PQ in these incremental upgrades either that or money to burn. I was expecting a huge difference in my C3 in comparison to the aging the C10 and nope, I ain't seeing it, sure it's slightly better but not fuck me time to shoot the C10 and put it out of its misery, are these new sets really going to be any different? Are we not at diminishing returns now until some new tech arrives or microLED becomes mainstream?
Y'all must have some eyesight to be noticing the difference in PQ in these incremental upgrades either that or money to burn. I was expecting a huge difference in my C3 in comparison to the aging the C10 and nope, I ain't seeing it, sure it's slightly better but not fuck me time to shoot the C10 and put it out of its misery, are these new sets really going to be any different? Are we not at diminishing returns now until some new tech arrives or microLED becomes mainstream?
Really tempting to upgrade my G1 to a G4.
I've seen latest greatest sets at a local electronics store, yes I know not an ideal place to view em and whilst the top of the line LG/Sony's/Sammy's look great, I'm just not seeing that leap if you know what I mean, when I went from LCD to OLED that was a visual leap that even wow'd the wife, but from OLED to more expensive OLED... Nah, I ain't seeing it and if I ain't seeing it you can bet the wife will ask why did I just spunk £3000k on a new telly to replace our perfectly acceptable old oneU have to switch to the more expensive G-Series. They get the updates.
This is the reason I'm still rocking a g1.Better have 120-144hz bfi or no buy.
Same here. Also want to go to 83" this time around. Good to see the MLA panel at this size also. Finally a year to upgrade.
Samsung QD-OLED is superior
No new alpha 11 processor for the C4. That's wack.
Yeah, that does it for me, and also the size increase without loosing anything. Will save my 77" G1 for the bedroom maybe and go with 83" G4 to the TV room. Or miggt sell the G1 and use the 42" C2 (using it as a monitor right now). You cant get enough panels around the house. Still have my 50" Pioneer Kuro in a storage. I dunno why, but I can't really part from it. Nostalgia is a hard thingYeah the MLA panel is the reason why I want to upgrade. I'll just pass my G1 to my mum.
what is a MLA-OLED?
Curious if there's an image boost for the C range.
What benefits will 144hz bring (if any) for console gaming or general TV use?
All the OLED stuff will be boring until 2025 at minimum, MiniLED is the only exciting thing to anticipate unfortunately, it's interesting to possibly see old greats surpassed though.
I want to see this 10000 nit, 40000 zone Hisense set. They said the UX was the brightness it is but I'd wager this will realistically be 4000-6000 nits when not in r-tard picture mode. Also successor to U8 and U7 which are crazy value this year.
Same here. Love my C9. Also I really don't like the updated webOSThink I'll upgrade in 2025/26 with a C5/C6. Just after the PS5 Pro. My C9 is still very solid.
Samsung QD-OLED is superior
I mean, all OLED panel types are susceptible to burn-in, but I have heard the first-gen Samsung QD-OLED panels had it pretty bad. No idea if Samsung has been working to improve on that.In picture quality yes but Samsung don't give a fuck about burn in.
Dolby Vision is highly overrated. Go watch Oppenheimer 4K UHD Blu-ray and try to tell me the HDR presentation on that film isn't one of the best ever released on the format just because it's only HDR10 so I can laugh at you.Has Dolby Vision improved on their sets yet![]()
I mean, all OLED panel types are susceptible to burn-in, but I have heard the first-gen Samsung QD-OLED panels had it pretty bad. No idea if Samsung has been working to improve on that.
Still dont see any reason to upgrade from my C9.
Love my C9.
I might add that the Sony HX310 is a studio mastering monitor, it's literally the reference display used by the people who make the movies. And it's an LCD. However it's a $20,000 LCD, which proves only that the reason consumer displays of any stripe, OLED or LCD, have flaws is because they have to be cheap. What I'm saying is if you or I were willing to pay $20,000+ for a TV, we could get the most amazing perfect TV today. But nobody is willing to pay that, so nobody makes that.New tech. They aren't as dim as the standard WOLEDS, but still dimmer than high end LCDs
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They are not doing well and looking at reducing costs and slow R&D with the new CEO to stop the bleedingTrue, but after my C9 the next TV will be from LG again. The offer great support for their TVs even after many years.
G4 looks tempting, but maybe I wait for a QD-OLED from LG.
I mean, all OLED panel types are susceptible to burn-in, but I have heard the first-gen Samsung QD-OLED panels had it pretty bad. No idea if Samsung has been working to improve on that.
Dolby Vision is highly overrated. Go watch Oppenheimer 4K UHD Blu-ray and try to tell me the HDR presentation on that film isn't one of the best ever released on the format just because it's only HDR10 so I can laugh at you.
Oppenheimer also has a DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 soundtrack instead of a Dolby Atmos soundtrack, why don't you also pretend Oppenheimer isn't one of the best sounding films on the format while you're at it?
The reality is, if it's good enough for Christopher Nolan, it's good enough for me.
He is talking about the X95L , that can almost achieve Oled dimming while having worse hardware than competitors thanks to the softwareI might add that the Sony HX310 is a studio mastering monitor, it's literally the reference display used by the people who make the movies. And it's an LCD. However it's a $20,000 LCD, which proves only that the reason consumer displays of any stripe, OLED or LCD, have flaws is because they have to be cheap. What I'm saying is if you or I were willing to pay $20,000+ for a TV, we could get the most amazing perfect TV today. But nobody is willing to pay that, so nobody makes that.
You are correct that Sony has by far the best image processing, and yes their MiniLED backlit LCD TV's are really really good. The Sony X93L and X95L are the best looking of their class of LCD TV, but you do pay for it in terms of input lag. Unfortunately Sony falls behind both LG and Samsung in terms of input lag, so for gamers it isn't necessarily the best choice depending on what kinds of games you like to play. If image quality in movies is your top concern though, the Sony TV's do beat out everyone else.The C9 really was the peak of LG. What amazing value. Mine was still going strong, but I wanted to see what QD-OLED was all about, so I replaced it with a Sony A95K a few months ago.
The Sony's image processing absolutely blows the LG TVs away. I always thought this was just marketing hype, but it is legit. Immediately, my Nintendo Switch games looked significantly better. Any sub-4K source looks so much better than either my C9 or C1.
For this reason alone, I would suggest Sony over even the highest model LG. If Sony's mini-LED series has the same processing, even those may be preferable to any LG.