LG's 2024 OLED TVs Revealed
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blastprocessor
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Lots of AI BS. DTM you turn off if you want the directors intent.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Sony will smack them in pq with the 2024 lineup.
Unfortunately the announcement of them won't likely be a CES.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Why not against sony 2024 series?
Eliciel
Member
What TVs are you expecting coming from Sony?
because it will be even more expensive? I have a budget to keep
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Audiophile
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The old C7 55" in my room is absolutely buggered. Hit the 3yr mark and rapidly experienced permanent burn-in. Not burn-in from carelessly leaving any static elements on screen for prolonged periods (was always very careful, plus had screensaver, shift & the refresher on) but premature pixel aging as a result of repeat short exposures to various elements.
If something dominant in yellow or red is on the screen the entire centre of the image has a strong green shift and the youtube app UI elements are all over the place. Plus there are completely burnt out pixel clusters along the bottom. I really lost the panel lottery on this one. On another note, having red static UI elements on a native app like YouTube on an OLED TV is stupid. They should modify it to monochrome + reduced contrast for OLEDs TVs.
Been wanting to upgrade for a while, was hoping that ~5yrs down the line there would've been more of a jump. Looks like MLA might finally be the tech to get me to pull the trigger. What would be ideal is 2x brightness from MLA + a 240Hz panel with BFI.
Will probs wait for the price of the G4 65" to drop near the end of the year, get a PS5 Pro around the same time and update to a better 4K Blu-ray player, my X700 is a temperamental piece of crap..
If something dominant in yellow or red is on the screen the entire centre of the image has a strong green shift and the youtube app UI elements are all over the place. Plus there are completely burnt out pixel clusters along the bottom. I really lost the panel lottery on this one. On another note, having red static UI elements on a native app like YouTube on an OLED TV is stupid. They should modify it to monochrome + reduced contrast for OLEDs TVs.
Been wanting to upgrade for a while, was hoping that ~5yrs down the line there would've been more of a jump. Looks like MLA might finally be the tech to get me to pull the trigger. What would be ideal is 2x brightness from MLA + a 240Hz panel with BFI.
Will probs wait for the price of the G4 65" to drop near the end of the year, get a PS5 Pro around the same time and update to a better 4K Blu-ray player, my X700 is a temperamental piece of crap..
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Well we have the M series coming and something big that Caleb said he wasn't allowed to talk about.What TVs are you expecting coming from Sony?
because it will be even more expensive? I have a budget to keep
Trogdor1123
Member
Canada, not sure what even tvs are worth looking for.
aclar00
Member
Not bad...hoping my next upgrade is an LG OLED, just not sure when it will be. While able to, im just not keen on upgrading too often. Think my Samsung was 1400 or 1500 USD when i got it.
Though i must say ive been stuck in apartments for the last few years due to a few out of state moves and have been holding off on upgrading to a 77inch OLED until getting my own place
CloudShiner
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Why is there so much copium in this topic?
I get that some people can't drop a few grand on a new TV every year, but it's silly to pretend that sets from years ago are barely any different.
'I went in a shop and I swear my old TV from three/five/seven years ago [delete as appropriate] looked just as good as some of these new-fangled models that I won't be buying'
I get that some people can't drop a few grand on a new TV every year, but it's silly to pretend that sets from years ago are barely any different.
'I went in a shop and I swear my old TV from three/five/seven years ago [delete as appropriate] looked just as good as some of these new-fangled models that I won't be buying'
MatrixReloaded101
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Release date and prices?
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Deleted member 848825
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Good to see the MLA moving across finally to 83" size. Would be great if we got something even bigger, but smaller than 97". Something around 88" would be ideal for me. Just wish I hadnt had so many bad uniformity LG panels in the past.... anyway I'm skint, so its only window shopping for me.
iHaunter
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Why no comparison to Sony's A95K? That would be what you'd want to compare it to. I'll stick with my Sony QD-OLED. This is still very inferior tech.New tech. They aren't as dim as the standard WOLEDS, but still dimmer than high end LCDs
Mister Wolf
Member
This is an LG thread. Also, Sony is not utilizing MLA tech which was the original question.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That's what I'm waiting for.
twilo99
Member
What is BFI?
Shake Your Rump
Banned
'I went in a shop and I swear my old TV from three/five/seven years ago [delete as appropriate] looked just as good as some of these new-fangled models that I won't be buying'
I have 2019, 2021, and 2022 model OLED TVs in my home, and, yeah, they actually all do look pretty much the same. I doubt that I could tell the two LG models apart in a blind test, despite one of them using the "evo" panel. I can detect the Sony easily due to the RGB pixel layout, but the LGs are essentially unchanged (outside of the software).
Musashipan
Member
No thanks
Buhaj
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Black Frame Insertion
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Not really copium. I could afford one of these new OLED's, but I genuinely don't see a big enough difference yet between my C9 and these newer models in the C range (G range may be another story). Sure there are some improvements, but they're not big enough to enhance the visual experience for me yet and I believe with the newer models in the same tier it's diminishing returns territory. But I'd be keen to pick up a future iteration in a few years as perhaps the C9 will show its age then.Why is there so much copium in this topic?
I get that some people can't drop a few grand on a new TV every year, but it's silly to pretend that sets from years ago are barely any different.
'I went in a shop and I swear my old TV from three/five/seven years ago [delete as appropriate] looked just as good as some of these new-fangled models that I won't be buying'
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LavitzSlambert
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I don't understand people who buy new TVs all the time. There is basically zero difference year to year, even every few years. The only reason I'd buy a new TV now is if my current OLED gets burn in, or if the OS slows to a crawl due to planned obsolescence. And to mitigate the second reason, I turn off network settings and never update it.
It's also extremely wasteful. I still own every TV I ever bought, and there is a place and use for all of them.
65in LG C1 - Big boi main TV for the living room
55in TCL Roku TV - Bedroom
42in Panasonic Viera - Plasma TV in 720p for SD and retro games
19in Toshiba from my college days - Spare TV for the guest room/a retro console
It's also extremely wasteful. I still own every TV I ever bought, and there is a place and use for all of them.
65in LG C1 - Big boi main TV for the living room
55in TCL Roku TV - Bedroom
42in Panasonic Viera - Plasma TV in 720p for SD and retro games
19in Toshiba from my college days - Spare TV for the guest room/a retro console
KuraiShidosha
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Anyone else really impressed with the visuals of OLED but refuse to buy one? It's the aggressive dimming and pixel burn out that does it for me. I can't have a display that can't be used as a desktop monitor because it'll have tons of static elements all over it and cause issues in a year or less given my typical use case. Feels pointless.
Tarnpanzer
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For both I would assume ~same as last year for all models.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
It depends when you buy your devices. Aside from the bedroom TV (the one that would fit on the "stand" ahem [UK houses alright
, not as roomy bedrooms as you think] we have is a 27'' Toshiba that is 1366x768 and we recently bought it… do not know how they still make non 1080p TV sets and despite all the fine tuning I could do the weird non integer scaling from 1080p to 768p is noticeable), and the Denon AV upgrade we got a few years ago (yes, when there was an industry wide HDMI processor fiasco around 4K@120 Hz inputs, but at least Denon gave out an adapter box for free that "fixed" the problem but only for one device connected to the 4K/8K input but then again all other devices can talk to the TV and then reach the receiver through eARC and all other full HDMI 2.1b features are supported.:. PS5 connected to the receiver, the XSX goes through the TV and eARC) I am very happy with the 55'' C9 we have (despite the single dead pixel it developed near the middle of the screen, lower part of the screen, not exactly smack down the middle).LG C9 is a decently bright panel (sometimes dimming can be aggressive especially for full white bright backgrounds, but in most cases you do have scenarios where the very bright areas in the scene are smaller and scattered and they look proper HDR nice
(so do UHD Blu-Ray movies, HDR and wide colours reproduction are a game changer), supports eARC, 4K and 120 Hz (4K@120 Hz HDR without any chroma sub sampling is supported), VRR (improved through software updates too), eARC, pretty lag free Dolby Digital decoding, Dolby Vision is supported, HGIG is supported, etc… WebOS speed does not worry me too much anymore, switched to the Apple TV 4K second generation model and put the Apple TV HD edition upstairs.On top of that the Denon AV receiver and the 5.1 surround sound setup I think complement the movie and gaming setup well: it is versatile for both scenarios.
That TV, and receiver combo, came about when the HDMI 2.1b specs were not only out but already implemented, so it is a polished second generation implementation for many of those features (for some other features it was even better than that). I believe that a C4 (or actually a G4 as LG is dragging the C series to the lower end, they barely updated the C4 over the C3, no new SoC, no newer and brighter OLED panel, etc…) will be looking better than my old C9 but I do not think it would look to be the same jump as my C9 did over the Sony edge lit LCD I had before (which was a nice TV, but no it does not compare
). Had I gotten a B8 or a C7 I do not think it would have lasted nearly as much.Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Brighter and brighter panels + 120 Hz or more BFi should fix the issue with motion resolution for OLED panels and still allow bright enough HDR (also should do well with a fake CRT mode which IMHO should be done by the TV and applied for free to any content).
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I agree, but I can't imagine feeling like I'll need to change my TV after 5 years. I don't see why 10+ is unreasonable for my current screen.
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Pretty interesting, I don't think I've seen a screen that's looked better enough for me to notice - but I never go look in shops, etc.Why is there so much copium in this topic?
I get that some people can't drop a few grand on a new TV every year, but it's silly to pretend that sets from years ago are barely any different.
'I went in a shop and I swear my old TV from three/five/seven years ago [delete as appropriate] looked just as good as some of these new-fangled models that I won't be buying'
I genuinely don't know what appreciable difference there might be, but seeing people talk about motion, that'd be something to single out as being something I'd appreciate on games running at 30fps - TOTK is unplayable docked for me, but as to whether that'd be something I'd be able to notice without taking a console with me to demo, I don't know.
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DirtyBast8rd
Member
Meh, kinda glad Oled isn't making big steps. Got a 55 C1 for the couch and a 42 C2 as a desk monitor and feel absolutely no need to upgrade.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
What are you talking about?
8k hours of use on my lg c1 48" here. As desktop monitor and on ps5. Looks brand new.
I turned off auto dimming in service menu like 4k hours ago. It was mildly annoying at most but it's fixed on c3 models without needing of service remote.
The tvs have compensation cycles and refreshers and lg does it the best.
Sure a guy on yt will burn out switch after 2 years of displaying 1 screenshot. But that's max brightness, no compensation cycles, no refreshers. The display running same 2 years normally would never have any issues.
It's amazing. Get an lg oled dude
CloudShiner
Member
With the A95L coming out so late in the year, who knows if Sony will even replace it before 2025. Could well just upgrade the rest of the range an leave the A95L as the top-tier.
If they do announce an A95M then yeah, I need to wait a little longer before deciding which way to go. Although, then you risk ending up in that endless wait cycle. Always a better model in a few months time.
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KuraiShidosha
Member
You misinterpreted my mention of screen dimming. I'm not talking about the anti burn out tech that dims static elements. I'm talking about how when an OLED displays a large window of high brightness content, it drops brightness significantly to compensate for power and heat throttling reasons. Look up even the latest LG OLED panel reviews on RTings and you'll see what I mean 2% window brightness of like 800 nits, but 50% window or larger and that shit falls off a cliff to like sub 200 nits. That's pathetic. It's worse than my 22 year old CRT that was used for multiple years in a college before I bought it off them at auction. Meanwhile you have MiniLED that can hit a peak of 2000 nits and even sustain 1400 nits for fullscreen window sizes without dropping. THAT'S proper HDR.
As for burn out, if you used the TV that long I guarantee you one of two things happened. First possibility, you just don't perceive what's actually in front of you. I've seen this multiple times where people simply don't notice things like burn out on their phones or TVs, but I can pick it up immediately. I guess my eyes are just more sensitive or trained to look for it thus it would piss me the fuck off to notice it on my own monitor. Second possibility and is far more likely, your TV's "refresh" cycler is actually measuring how much time each pixel spent displaying bright white and blue colors, then it down adjusts all other pixels to match in brightness to avoid noticing the difference. In effect, this reduces overall screen brightness. If you compare your 8000 hours used TV vs a brand new one of the same exact model, yours will be a lot dimmer. And since OLED is already super dim compared to LCD, yeah that's a hard pass for me dog.
OLED is king of motion clarity and contrast, but it has harsh limitations that make it completely unacceptable for me as a display choice. I'm more than happy with high dimming zone count MiniLED while we wait for MicroLED which will obsolete all other displays. Imagine OLED with none of the limitations. Super bright, per pixel illuminance, no burn out.
