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[Topher]

yes, but that just can't be objectively true, it has to a subjective thing, your brain basically tricking you. the game looking less smooth makes sense, but the latency should be markedly lower on the LG. unless something is set wrong in your TV settings on your LG of course. I'm not sure if LG has a Game Mode motion inteprolation feature like Samsung has. on a modern Samsung OLED, enabling Game Mode motion inteprolation will increase your lag from 9.5 to around 30 ms.

Objectively, I agree with you. But this is something that has been pointed out elsewhere as well so it ain't just me. I have seen others say they "got used to it", but that just hasn't been the case for me.

Edit: You could very well be right and this is a settings issue though. The difference is stark right now.

Yep, this is why I use an older 1080P LCD for PS3. I have been eying Retrotink 4K and I wonder if that could help at all, but doubt it.

Whew....just looked that up. It is a bit pricey. $750?

 

[StereoVsn]

Objectively, I agree with you. But this is something that has been pointed out elsewhere as well so it ain't just me. I have seen others say they "got used to it", but that just hasn't been the case for me.

Edit: You could very well be right and this is a settings issue though. The difference is stark right now.

Whew....just looked that up. It is a bit pricey. $750?

Yep, it is $750. I currently have Retrotink 5 and probably going to stick to that.

And yeah, I also have issues with 30FPS game on my OLED. Maybe if it would be one of newer 240Hz+ monitors either BFI, it would be better, but who knows.

 

[kevboard]

Topher some LG TVs have a 120hz game mode I think. where the TV basically forces itself to 120hz, which is meant for reduced input lag (below CRT levels).

BUT a sideeffect of running at 120hz is also a more noticeable double image effect, leading to a slightly motion-blurred image.

it's called Boost Mode I think. that could also be worth trying out.

 

[Topher]

Topher some LG TVs have a 120hz game mode I think. where the TV basically forces itself to 120hz, which is meant for reduced input lag (below CRT levels).

BUT a sideeffect of running at 120hz is also a more noticeable double image effect, leading to a slightly motion-blurred image.

it's called Boost Mode I think. that could also be worth trying out.

I'll hook my PS3 up to the OLED later and see what that does. Thanks

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Upscaling costs time

PS3 outputs natively in most games at 720p, that resolution is now so low that RTings doesn't even test 720p scaling latency anymore. But they do test 1080p scaling latency and it's generally slower than a native 4K image being processed

Does Infamous even hold a steady 30 fps, most of the PS360 era games were running around 20 fps and the latency will be super shit on those games no matter what even if you connected the PS3 to a CRT

 

[kevboard]

I'll hook my PS3 up to the OLED later and see what that does. Thanks

yeah I just remembered that LGs can do that.
that should make it look a bit smoother in motion.

usually people avoid using this boost mode because it makes 60fps gamss look blurrier in motion. but I guess for 30fps games that can be a pro not a con.

both Black Frame Insertion and this Boost mode should increase the perceived smoothness. but I don't think you can use both at the same time on anything newer than the LG C1 (or was it the CX?), as they removed the 120hz BFI support due to the new chipsets they use not supporting them apparently.

 

[Topher]

yeah I just remembered that LGs can do that.
that should make it look a bit smoother in motion.

usually people avoid using this boost mode because it makes 60fps gamss look blurrier in motion. but I guess for 30fps games that can be a pro not a con.

both Black Frame Insertion and this Boost mode should increase the perceived smoothness. but I don't think you can use both at the same time on anything newer than the LG C1 (or was it the CX?), as they removed the 120hz BFI support due to the new chipsets they use not supporting them apparently.

My settings got jacked up. Game Optimizer options were mostly grayed out which was odd. I did some checking and picture mode was in "oled care" somehow and apparently that disables a lot in game optimizer. But picture mode was also grayed out. There is another 'oled care' option under support. Once I disabled that then I could change picture mode which then allowed me to mak changes in game optimizer. Bit of a rabbit hole. I'm guessing one of the LG updates did this. These updates happen fairly frequently so no idea how long it has been this way..

After all that, I was able to turn on "boost" and I do see improvement. I didn't have time to try BFI but I'll give that a shot tomorrow.

 

[Sakura]

TVs usually have pretty shitty upscaling that adds a lot of latency. Not sure if that is the issue specifically, but it would make sense that an older TV has lower latency.

 

[Bitstream]

I own a LG C2 but I've actually been thinking about just getting one of the Hisense U8s instead.

I have an LG OLED & I might end up grabbing a NOLED tv just to deal with 30fps games, it's that bad on OLED.
God help us if the pro doesn't have a GTA6 40fps mode.


Topher's issue is almost definitely an issue of the lower polling rate of the controller combined with upscaling & the oled judder at 30fps, even with heavy motion blur the motion clarity just collapses.

 

[apple_of_enlightenment]

TVs usually have pretty shitty upscaling that adds a lot of latency. Not sure if that is the issue specifically, but it would make sense that an older TV has lower latency.

This would be my bet. Despite 'game mode', manufacturers use the slowest cheapest chips for this kind of processing, not catering for sub HD old gaming systems. I wonder how the Switch would fair on OP's TV as it runs at 720 a lot.

Yes, HDMI. Dang....wish I still had my old component cables to try.

Stick with HDMI! Only use component or composite for CRTs.

 

[kevboard]

This would be my bet. Despite 'game mode', manufacturers use the slowest cheapest chips for this kind of processing, not catering for sub HD old gaming systems. I wonder how the Switch would fair on OP's TV as it runs at 720 a lot.

not LG. LG TVs have around 10ms of lag no matter the input resolution.

the only input lag related issues you can run into on a modern LG is if you run even older systems than the PS3 at 4:3 resolutions like 480p
but even there the input lag is generall lower or on par to what an old 1080p Samsung TV would have.

 

[Topher]

Shit happened again. LG update disabled Game Optimizer and all the game settings. I can turn off auto update but then it will bug me every single time I turn on the TV to update. So I just have to say "no" to updates forever. Thanks, LG