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Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread

man, i wonder if max not entering her photo plays into the story somehow, like Jefferson has some weird power that ties into them and Max not submitting one makes her exempt
 
if the entire timeline change was all based on submitting a pic to that asshole, i'm gonna be super disappointed.
 
that's my point, you can't submit one but jefferson keeps pestering you about it, so i'm wondering if there's another reason for it

It might have been a more deliberate decision on the developers part, if anything.

Why do people hate warren? Like why?!

I had wondered this, as well. He's a bit of a dork, but he otherwise seems to have a kind nature to him. As I have already mentioned, it seems that the guy never had a serious relationship before & he doesn't have a clue with how to approach talking to women.
 
The most peculiar thing I noticed recently is that the hitman trailer shown at E3 also featured a killer that took pictures of women in the dark room, hell he even looked a bit like Jefferson just without the glasses. I wonder if this was a subtle hint(because the trailer came out way before episode 4), since both games are published by Square or just a weird coincidence; probably the latter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVqxMCZ3u6k
 
Why do people hate warren? Like why?!

I guess we agree on that too. Think/hope Warren just really likes Max and is kind of weird with trying to convey that to her. I really hope if not Chloe/Max they end up together and that Warren isn't tied into the Dark Room stuff(that would really suck)
 
Maybe it's a love-hate relationship, at least the content they made is being seen by more people!

Usually, the real limit on branching stories in voice-acted games is simply budget. The more detailed the cutscenes are, the more expensive it is to really branch and it has diminishing returns since most players won't see everything despite all of it still being made.

So really, Monkey, you're the kind of player that story devs love most, because they know none of their work is going to waste. The ones they hate are the people who never think to replay a game to do things differently. In that cause they just wasted a 2/3rds of their budget creating content players won't see.
Then why won't Bioware listen to me and release ME Trilogy on PS4?

You guys even think about that?

edit: Seriously though, I wouldn't doubt you're both right. If I spent 2 years working on a title, for less than 10% of players to see even half of the content available I'd probably be a little depressed.
 
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The spelling makes that so great.
 
if the entire timeline change was all based on submitting a pic to that asshole, i'm gonna be super disappointed.

i told u to enter ur fckin photo

Maybe her photo is so profound, it forces everyone to stop their rapey ways.
 
k. up to date

played ep 1 when it came out

then never touched the game again

played from 2 to 4 between yesterday and today

the game certainly got better, and worse, and better, altho I dont have the same outstanding LOVE for the game some seem to have

I think a lot of the dialogue is bad, I think a lot of the gameplay is a chore, and this last ep was pretty bad in terms of mechanics and game logic

regardless since this is just about the story I guess i'll stick to that and the last ep (and mention the terrible butterfly effect pointless plot rippoff in ep3 elsewhere, lol)

this last ep bothered me for a couple reasons, wondering if they're widespread as ive read nothing about the game

- Nathan shows up with gun to the dorms, Max has camera. Max doesnt take picture of Nathan with gun even tho she's there to gather evidence and bring him down

- The logic to get Chloe not to shoot Frank was super random and just weird. Plus, why the hell cant I rewind time??

and more mechanically; that padlock puzzle in the barn. it wasnt THAT terrible and I got it eventualy (even tho Chloe kept saying to "look around for stuff" which was totally not what I had to do, bad game bad)

its the fact that the game never really had any puzzle like that outside of like one ocassion and it wasnt even nearly as crucial or unclear as it was here. Feels weird for it to become this puzzly randomly 4 episodes in.

edit: sidenote, as far as puzzles go I enjoyed the game lettin me introduce the wrong pin on the celphone on purpose to intrudoce the PUK code I did have. nice touch.

anyway, besides that I liked it in the sense that it finally moved the story forward in a more satisfying way it had done thus far and the stakes are gettin a bit more real for a game that virtually had none with the rewind mechanic

also, random but: the decision to go to the cinema with Warren was kinda handled horribly. I did not know it was a date thing, I did not know it was a big deal to some other girl and that everyone would take us as a couple now or dating: I dont wanna date that butthead, and after a choice in ep2 I had no other choice to make that clear. Got me bummed when I thought / realized there was some potential romancing stuff happening with Chloe too. If that plays into it then yeah, its a pretty big decision that comes out of nowhere and looks as just a side thing with someone who's a friend

lookin forward to ep5, beyond the things im not enjoying. there's plenty to like in the game, but it also constantly feels like wasted potential and wrong turns



also I guess I want to better emphasize my dislike for the butterfly effect crap in ep3, which is probably what I liked the least about the game (yeah even more so than collecting bottles in ep2)

it not even the step by step butterfly effect plot thing (as straight forward as going back in time with a photo and suddenly your friend is crippled), but its the fact that it didnt even work for me as character flavor since its just immediatly forgotten, both that power (guess there's an episode left) and whatever happened there. Its supposed to make you feel more sympathetic towards a character I already felt like that. In the end it wasnt worth the trouble; I feel like it added nothing and the game would have done better by spending time on the actual plot, which was already pretty busy by that point, and as a consequence now seems to be unfolding way too fast pace-wise

"lets just do thi s to throw a random euthanasia decision in there even tho everyone knows it has absolutely no outcome or stakes cause dude EUTHANASIA DECISION BIGGEST PLAYER DECISION EVER"

felt super dumb, rushed, and a waste of pretty precious game time considering its episodic. I appreciate the character work and quiet moments but doing them by watching Blade Runner in a timeline that doesnt matter as opposed to further developing actual Max and Chloe was a bad decision
 
You should have been able to rewind in the Frank scene. I was able to.

Also the date Going Ape thing, you're reacting like you're supposed to. Max, when agreeing to go, is not under the impression it's a date. Warren is treating it as one. You're supposed to be caught off guard by it.

Considering it's a minor decision in the game, it's likely not going to have far reaching consequences.
 
You should have been able to rewind in the Frank scene. I was able to.

Also the date Going Ape thing, you're reacting like you're supposed to. Max, when agreeing to go, is not under the impression it's a date. Warren is treating it as one. You're supposed to be caught off guard by it.

Considering it's a minor decision in the game, it's likely not going to have far reaching consequences.

I hope so, and I was about to edit that I could have rewinded time after he says he's gonna cancel with the other chick?

I guess what I mainly mean is that I got no timeline for it. I thought he meant like, later that day, or a quick thing. Idk. Max seems to be pretty clear on when it is and all, I as the player am not

there were a few of those types of decisions where I feel like I wasnt informed enough, and all that. These games tend to make these mistakes and none are perfect, I just feel like its better to point them out



edit: if I could rewind time on Frank then why did everyone act that way? and no one mentioned it?

it just felt like the game needed stakes so it suddenly forgot about Max's power or something to have a moment. felt really weird and disconnected
 
man, i wonder if max not entering her photo plays into the story somehow, like Jefferson has some weird power that ties into them and Max not submitting one makes her exempt

The whole thing has been a ruse to get Max to enter a photo into the contest. No one died, there's no tornado! All the dead animals were in on it, too! Hey, even William is still alive! Joke's on you, Max!
 
I see a lot of people loved that ep 3 timeline bit

I dont know man. Like I said above probably the worst part of the game for me. There's emotional (earned) and then there's emotionally manipulative

nothing about that part felt earned or honest other than cheap and "look at this, be sad". game was trying to pull me some place out of the blue and I never felt like going with it

came out of nowhere, was exactly like the plot of a movie, always knew there were no stakes, and everything was immediatly forgotten 2 minutes later

nope
 
I played ep 4 yesterday and it was my favourite. I love this game. It does so many adventure things right that quite all the adventure games do so so so wrong everytime. Somehow it feels like an essay on adventure game design. It's a modern game and a classic at the same time.

That said, I found the last bits quite a mess. In particular Chloe and Max(ine) not taking any clues with them from the bunker, or photos (!) of Nathan in the dorm. In my timeline Kate is alive and we just promised her that we are "this close to have concrete proof of nathan" having dosed her at the party, and we just stared at that binder, left it there and closed the door behind us. WTF?!?
 
Just finished episode 4. Just... Fuck. When they found Rachel was bad enough but it just kept going. At least I got to warn Victoria, felt like I was still able to do something good....

It'll be interesting to see how they choose to wrap it up. Will everyone remember everything or not? Will we bring all the dead back and no one but Max remembers this timeline? There's a lot of options for a time travel story like this, walking the balance between undoing everything and keep the lessons the characters learnt and the relationships they had is hard. I wish I'd waited a bit longer to play through the season, the wait for episode 5 is going to get to me.
 
I see a lot of people loved that ep 3 timeline bit

I dont know man. Like I said above probably the worst part of the game for me. There's emotional (earned) and then there's emotionally manipulative

nothing about that part felt earned or honest other than cheap and "look at this, be sad". game was trying to pull me some place out of the blue and I never felt like going with it

came out of nowhere, was exactly like the plot of a movie, always knew there were no stakes, and everything was immediatly forgotten 2 minutes later

nope

Well for me I'm just waiting to see how episode 5 plays out because every episode's major decision has had repercussions in future episodes. So I'm 99% sure that the alternative universe will play a role since the euthanasia decision didn't play a future role, but I'll be sorely disappointed if it didn't, but it is a bit early to say that it has no effect and was completely forgotten.

People said the same things about Kate, one, that she would always be saved/killed no matter what (before the results screen) and two, that she would not be seen in future episodes. So I trust developers to not drop the ball on this either.
 
Like I said above probably the worst part of the game for me. There's emotional (earned) and then there's emotionally manipulative

Fully agree with you. And the odd thing is you could remove that whole segment and it would have had no effect on the larger, overall storyline. Or maybe that's for the better.

I also feel as though episode 3 really shouldn't have ended where it did. Would have made more sense to end it after Max reverses the timeline again.

Re: Warren discussion, the main thing that makes me not like him is that bit in the beginning of episode 2 where you can see him spying outside your dorm room window.

Whatever else he does, that's freaking creepy and has to foreshadow something.
 
Part of me wants a Life is Strange Season 1: Evil Max Edition

Just make it somewhat ridiculous and enjoy doing the dark side of things with rewind powers.
 
Fully agree with you. And the odd thing is you could remove that whole segment and it would have had no effect on the larger, overall storyline. Or maybe that's for the better.

I also feel as though episode 3 really shouldn't have ended where it did. Would have made more sense to end it after Max reverses the timeline again.

Re: Warren discussion, the main thing that makes me not like him is that bit in the beginning of episode 2 where you can see him spying outside your dorm room window.

Whatever else he does, that's freaking creepy and has to foreshadow something.

I should replay this part, I didn't get to see him.
It IS a bit creepy but again, maybe he's just.. not good with girls.
 
Gone back to Episode 2 this evening in order to play through again and change a few (admittedly minor) details. Solved the train-track situation without pushing the cable drum this time, but for some reason after finding all five bottles in five minutes flat first time, I spent a good twenty minutes searching for the camp-fire bottle as I just could not remember how to get there.

This time around I didn't water Lisa a second time, didn't tell Jefferson about Kate's argument with David and most importantly: turned down Warren's invite to Go Ape. I'm just convinced he's a creep with the power of hindsight, Brooke can have him.
 
Gone back to Episode 2 this evening in order to play through again and change a few (admittedly minor) details. Solved the train-track situation without pushing the cable drum this time, but for some reason after finding all five bottles in five minutes flat first time, I spent a good twenty minutes searching for the camp-fire bottle as I just could not remember how to get there.

This time around I didn't water Lisa a second time, didn't tell Jefferson about Kate's argument with David and most importantly: turned down Warren's invite to Go Ape. I'm just convinced he's a creep with the power of hindsight, Brooke can have him.

Speaking of the train-track thing, has there been any consequence yet for dropping the cable drum versus using the switch?
 
I dunno man, after seeing him destroy Nathan I'm convinced the dude has a dark side.

I still think he's a time travelling young William (Chloe's dad) they look very alike in that 1 old photo of Chloe's parents, but you'd think characters would recognise if that was the case.
 
This game is surely becoming the sleeper that us fans have been dreaming of. Even popular twitch streamers and youtubers are playing this game who I thought wouldn't even think about playing episodic and story-based games like this!

This game at least has to be in the discussion for GOTY this year, at least!
 
This game is surely becoming the sleeper that us fans have been dreaming of. Even popular twitch streamers and youtubers are playing this game who I thought wouldn't even think about playing episodic and story-based games like this!

This game at least has to be in the discussion for GOTY this year, at least!

I totally agree. It's pretty crazy how much the fan base grows every time a new episode hits.
 
I still remember how big the threads were around its announcement. Some had like less than a page, maybe a bit more. Quite a far cry from now!
 
Posted this in the LiS OT, but x-posting it here just in case:

Was just watching a Twitch Stream of LiS, and the chat on that particular stream mentioned that Episode 5 could be released as soon as Tuesday, August 25! This is according to the Steam Release page for LiS episodes.

So, what does Gaf think about this? Could Episode 5 actually be coming out on Tuesday?
 
Posted this in the LiS OT, but x-posting it here just in case:

Was just watching a Twitch Stream of LiS, and the chat on that particular stream mentioned that Episode 5 could be released as soon as Tuesday, August 25! This is according to the Steam Release page for LiS episodes.

So, what does Gaf think about this? Could Episode 5 actually be coming out on Tuesday?

No.
 
Posted this in the LiS OT, but x-posting it here just in case:

Was just watching a Twitch Stream of LiS, and the chat on that particular stream mentioned that Episode 5 could be released as soon as Tuesday, August 25! This is according to the Steam Release page for LiS episodes.

So, what does Gaf think about this? Could Episode 5 actually be coming out on Tuesday?

Uhhhh I really, really doubt it. As far as I know they're still doing voicework for ep 5 too based on some recent tweets this week.
 
I see a lot of people loved that ep 3 timeline bit

I dont know man. Like I said above probably the worst part of the game for me. There's emotional (earned) and then there's emotionally manipulative

nothing about that part felt earned or honest other than cheap and "look at this, be sad". game was trying to pull me some place out of the blue and I never felt like going with it

came out of nowhere, was exactly like the plot of a movie, always knew there were no stakes, and everything was immediatly forgotten 2 minutes later

nope

Honestly, I loved all the Chloe-in-wheelchair stuff, because as someone who has spent their entire life in a wheelchair, I never see the lifestyle stuff represented so well.

The game VERY thoughtfully alluded to even the small hardships that come with disability that most people never realize, like needing to moisturize to keep welts from forming, or having a proper Hoyer-lift next to her bed for transfers.

I can't not love a game that thought that hard about what they were showing. That part most definitely wasn't going just for cheap emotional-grab.
 
Honestly, I loved all the Chloe-in-wheelchair stuff, because as someone who has spent their entire life in a wheelchair, I never see the lifestyle stuff represented so well.

The game VERY thoughtfully alluded to even the small hardships that come with disability that most people never realize, like needing to moisturize to keep welts from forming, or having a proper Hoyer-lift next to her bed for transfers.

I can't not love a game that thought that hard about what they were showing. That part most definitely wasn't going just for cheap emotional-grab.

Agreed. I can't empathise with spending time in a wheelchair, but as a writer I 100% appreciated the level of fantastic, meaningful effort they went to portray Chloe's experience.

The writers are clearly an incredibly dedicated, principled bunch. They must have done days of research, maybe even visiting/living with people who spend life in wheelchairs, to get all the details and all the mundane realities of it.

Just fantastic work. Deserves a lot of GotY awards, this one. Hopefully it will get a few at least.
 
This game is surely becoming the sleeper that us fans have been dreaming of. Even popular twitch streamers and youtubers are playing this game who I thought wouldn't even think about playing episodic and story-based games like this!

This game at least has to be in the discussion for GOTY this year, at least!

Trended at the number 2 spot in Youtube's top ten 'Trending' games for July list, just behind Rocket League. Pretty sure this will be my GOTY, barring a catastrophic fuck up with ep.5.

Any way to change the games display area?

There's a screen size option in video settings you can use to increase or decrease the display area.
 
Posted this in the LiS OT, but x-posting it here just in case:

Was just watching a Twitch Stream of LiS, and the chat on that particular stream mentioned that Episode 5 could be released as soon as Tuesday, August 25! This is according to the Steam Release page for LiS episodes.

So, what does Gaf think about this? Could Episode 5 actually be coming out on Tuesday?

A month after the last episode, when every other episode has come out two months after the previous one? Nope.
 
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