Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread
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Chloe, you can pick up your phone when he turns his back and read it
Damn, there are way too many LiS threads. Which one to post in? Anyway, I just binged through all 3 chapters thanks to the ongoing Steam sale and wow, I can see why this has been so well received.
That reveal at the end of chapter 3 was madness. I'm sure we'll return to the original timeline before long because, well, if not then a ton of decisions would stop mattering, but damn, what if Chloe truly is happier this way? I wonder if telling original-timeline Chloe about the alternate reality will be a choice in episode 4 or not, and how she will react. I'm torn between wanting to spend more time in the alternate timeline because I'm curious what else changed, and wanting to spend as little time as possible in it because I really want the next episode to advance the overall storyline with the characters I'm already invested in as much as possible.
Man, I want more.
That reveal at the end of chapter 3 was madness. I'm sure we'll return to the original timeline before long because, well, if not then a ton of decisions would stop mattering, but damn, what if Chloe truly is happier this way? I wonder if telling original-timeline Chloe about the alternate reality will be a choice in episode 4 or not, and how she will react. I'm torn between wanting to spend more time in the alternate timeline because I'm curious what else changed, and wanting to spend as little time as possible in it because I really want the next episode to advance the overall storyline with the characters I'm already invested in as much as possible.
Man, I want more.
Klendathu Club Owner
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I loved the ending to the third episode, but I want to go to back to the original timeline that I influenced wiht my decisions. That's also the reason why I'd be severly disappointed if the ending of the game would be something like Max going back to the beginning and letting Chloe get murdered by Nathan. Narratively it could be fitting, but definitely not for a game about choice.
Dr. Buni
Member
Oh my god, I didn't expect the time travel mechanic to escalate this much. 13 years old Max is so cute!
And that ending, poor alternate timeline Chloe. On the bright side, her personality probably doesn't suck like original timeline Chloe's personality does.
Anyways, hopefully there's a way to go back to the original timeline in the next episode. Dontnod can't possibly go Telltale and throw all of our choices under the bus.
And that ending, poor alternate timeline Chloe. On the bright side, her personality probably doesn't suck like original timeline Chloe's personality does.
Anyways, hopefully there's a way to go back to the original timeline in the next episode. Dontnod can't possibly go Telltale and throw all of our choices under the bus.
This could be one of the endings, but of course not the only one, since it is about choice, right?
I wonder how far apart those endings can be. Since Max can go back quite far, they could vary drastically...
indigo-cyclops
Member
Episode 3 really elevated this for me. My main issues is with some of the cringeworthy innermonologue stuff, and with some of the visual aspects of it.
However that episode just made shit so interesting, and I can't wait for more. Mogwai at the end was perfect.
Gotta know what's going on now.
However that episode just made shit so interesting, and I can't wait for more. Mogwai at the end was perfect.
Gotta know what's going on now.
Klendathu Club Owner
Member
This could be one of the endings, but of course not the only one, since it is about choice, right?
Ha ha, true! I guess, that's mostly my disappointment with other games about choice speaking. Too often the actual outcome cannot be changed, only relatively minor things.
I remember Dontnod saying that a potential (and extremely likely) sequel would be a new story with new characters. That means they don't have to arrive at roughly the same spot like the Mass Effect games, they could potentially offer very different endings. Hopefully they will.
Forensic Scene
Member
oh god and i thought the end of chapter 2 was upsetting...the end of chapter 3...wow.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I still wonder if Max technically spiritually assassinated an alternate version of herself. Alt Max got replaced with our Max... so where's alt Max?
Dr. Buni
Member
Maybe alt Max's "spirit" is in original Max's body in the original timeline? Assuming she doesn't have time-related powers, she must have freaked out if that happened.
wat
After hearing ep 4 is coming out soon I decided to finally play more after finishing Episode 1.
Just finished 3...
Ho... Why?
Chloe!
JehutyRunner
Banned
This about sums up my thoughts. Jesus.
JehutyRunner
Banned
Don't tempt me. I bloody love Imogen Heap and now I've seen this, I am massively tempted to do it.
Dreadnought
Member
There's no way Chloe is dead
Because who is Max gonna sacrifice herself for in episode 5
Because who is Max gonna sacrifice herself for in episode 5
chrominance
Member
AHHHHHHHHHH
AHHHHHHHHHH
How do we go from mirror-Chloe begging for euthanasia to prime-Chloe getting SHOT IN THE FUCKING HEAD ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
There were some really clunky bits, and by that I mainly just mean Jefferson showing up at the Vortex Club party to give out an award, and also kind of just the entire existence of that party--Blackwell Academy is run by complete, utter idiots and the excuse of "Nathan's powerful family bought off the school and the police to allow him to hold a party in the school's swimming pool" is the flimsiest justification ever. Also, I'm kind of not buying how everyone suddenly loves Max (and how Brooke is alternately in awe of Max for saving kate and pissed at Max for stealing her boyfriend who I don't even want anyways).
But on the other hand, I really liked the conversations with Frank and Victoria, even though a part of me wonders if the performances rather than the dialogue sold them. And even though I just badmouthed him, Warren... was alright. It was really hard not to just let Warren beat the everloving shit out of Nathan. The alternate universe gets a surprising amount of time, and it's nearly all Chloe and Max, which I didn't expect--I think I imagined digging up dirt using your newfound social circles to use back in the prime universe, though of course that doesn't really make sense. And even more surprising was a big scene with Kate, though I guess in the end that choice probably just amounts to "Kate gives you Nathan's room number/Kate is dead," unless it turns out everyone at the Vortex Club party treats you differently if you don't save Kate. THAT would be impressive.
Random notes: there are two moons during the Vortex Club scene, but as Chloe and Max drive off towards the junkyard, one of the moons fades out. What's it mean?
Anyways. Episode 4 was great. Can't wait for September.
AHHHHHHHHHH
How do we go from mirror-Chloe begging for euthanasia to prime-Chloe getting SHOT IN THE FUCKING HEAD ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
There were some really clunky bits, and by that I mainly just mean Jefferson showing up at the Vortex Club party to give out an award, and also kind of just the entire existence of that party--Blackwell Academy is run by complete, utter idiots and the excuse of "Nathan's powerful family bought off the school and the police to allow him to hold a party in the school's swimming pool" is the flimsiest justification ever. Also, I'm kind of not buying how everyone suddenly loves Max (and how Brooke is alternately in awe of Max for saving kate and pissed at Max for stealing her boyfriend who I don't even want anyways).
But on the other hand, I really liked the conversations with Frank and Victoria, even though a part of me wonders if the performances rather than the dialogue sold them. And even though I just badmouthed him, Warren... was alright. It was really hard not to just let Warren beat the everloving shit out of Nathan. The alternate universe gets a surprising amount of time, and it's nearly all Chloe and Max, which I didn't expect--I think I imagined digging up dirt using your newfound social circles to use back in the prime universe, though of course that doesn't really make sense. And even more surprising was a big scene with Kate, though I guess in the end that choice probably just amounts to "Kate gives you Nathan's room number/Kate is dead," unless it turns out everyone at the Vortex Club party treats you differently if you don't save Kate. THAT would be impressive.
Random notes: there are two moons during the Vortex Club scene, but as Chloe and Max drive off towards the junkyard, one of the moons fades out. What's it mean?
Anyways. Episode 4 was great. Can't wait for September.
AlphaDragoon
Member
Jesus. They went harder than pretty much every game I've played in the last five years or so.
I knew Jefferson was a scumbag, but Dontnod has massive balls to kill Chloe. Massive. And they did it almost right after you get that heart-breaking scene where they find out Rachel is dead. And then Chloe dies right next to the body of the girl she loved. Goddamn. I was worried when I realized Nathan still had his gun and then went "oh shit" when Chloe got shot, thinking I gave him a way to kill her...only to realize it was that piece of shit Jefferson.
I adored the Kate scene. Seeing her so happy again and so full of joy that people actually love her made my heart ten sizes bigger. She's so amazing.
Warren wrecking Nathan was glorious to watch. I ultimately pulled him off because I knew he wouldn't want to go there and it turned out I was right. I also had Max sign his board. She goes from friendzone to all in complete with blatant flirting now if you choose for her to be and says fuck the pretense. I'm going for Max/Warren so it was nice to see.
I knew Jefferson was a scumbag, but Dontnod has massive balls to kill Chloe. Massive. And they did it almost right after you get that heart-breaking scene where they find out Rachel is dead. And then Chloe dies right next to the body of the girl she loved. Goddamn. I was worried when I realized Nathan still had his gun and then went "oh shit" when Chloe got shot, thinking I gave him a way to kill her...only to realize it was that piece of shit Jefferson.
I adored the Kate scene. Seeing her so happy again and so full of joy that people actually love her made my heart ten sizes bigger. She's so amazing.
Warren wrecking Nathan was glorious to watch. I ultimately pulled him off because I knew he wouldn't want to go there and it turned out I was right. I also had Max sign his board. She goes from friendzone to all in complete with blatant flirting now if you choose for her to be and says fuck the pretense. I'm going for Max/Warren so it was nice to see.
transience
Member
I saw the Jefferson thing coming about 5 minutes before the reveal. I don't even know what tipped me off. once I saw a needle and no body, I knew it wasn't Nathan and my brain went instantly to him.
damn. hell of an episode. Walking Dead eps used to make me feel drained but this one might top even those. it started dreary and ended worse.
damn. hell of an episode. Walking Dead eps used to make me feel drained but this one might top even those. it started dreary and ended worse.
This is kind of a complete shot in the dark since I just finished the episode and i'm still a bit frazzled but, it fades out when they decide to go to the junkyard to stop Nathan from removing the evidence right? So maybe the moons are like two potential fates or something? Max said some stuff early in the episode about how she didn't think people were locked down to one fate. So my thinking is the two moons are like the two timelines or fates that this night could go down and maybe we will use the other one at the end of next episode to fix things?
benicillin
Banned
As one of the 7% of people who blamed Jefferson, I finally feel vindicated.
Man, that episode went SUPER dark. Like woah, I have no clue how this is going to end.
Man, that episode went SUPER dark. Like woah, I have no clue how this is going to end.
AlphaDragoon
Member
You're damn right you are vindicated. I want this to be an SE game and not a Dontnod game for like 5 minutes so I can murder that guy with a sword.
JehutyRunner
Banned
Right. Made something very basic, but I'll wait another day or so until most people get through it.
InfiniDragon
Member
So Kate is like the cutest thing I've ever seen in a video game. I wanted to reach through my screen and hug her anytime she did well...anything in this chapter. So best.
Fucking Jefferson man, RIP Chloe and Rachel, and felt so damn bad at those pictures (especially the look on poor Kate's face, oh man). I called that dude as a creeper. Please have an option to ice that dude in the final chapter.
Fucking Jefferson man, RIP Chloe and Rachel, and felt so damn bad at those pictures (especially the look on poor Kate's face, oh man). I called that dude as a creeper. Please have an option to ice that dude in the final chapter.
Littlefang
Member
You know the more I think about it the more Jefferson being the drugger/killer and not Nathan acting on his own makes total sense. Like it would be really odd for him to be so dismissive of Kate in episode 2 if he had good intentions. And it seemed a bit I guess odd for Nathan's motivations to be centrally revolved around photography. Like it's pretty clear Nathan is mentally unstable, but he doesn't seem to have the care and patience to pose and shoot the girls that he's drugged. I'm pretty certain Nathan is still involved in the whole thing, but how much I'm not sure. Oddly enough it seemed more like he wanted to scare Max away from investigating rather than simply outright killing her like he tried to do with Chloe in episode 1.
We know that Nathan was the one that drugged Chloe, but she didn't have a file on her in the bunker. I'm certain that Nathan knew about/was involved in Rachel Amber's death because of the whole Rachel in the Dark Room thing and he seems tormented by it. Also going to assume that the bunker is being referred to as the Dark Room. But it makes me really curious as to where Chloe fits in because it appears to me like Nathan acted on his own when drugging her because she didn't have a file and Jefferson simply shot her at the end of the episode rather than taking her with. I also think that Nathan having one of Max's selfies hanging on the wall in his room indicates that he probably doesn't want her to wind up dead, but that's just kind of my opinion.
I'm also curious if Rachel Amber or Kate Marsh was the anomaly. Did he kill all of the girls he abducted and Kate Marsh somehow escaped, or did he let them go and Rachel Amber's death was unintentional? I'm also wondering if Victoria was actually going to be the target all along, or if her file was simply a trap for Chloe and Max. I doubt that Nathan would have been down to go drug Victoria if he is working with Jefferson. Likewise, I think it'd be really fucking stupid of Jefferson to abduct/kill Victoria because well she basically asked him if he was dtf and has pretty much told the entire student body that Jefferson totally digs her. Especially with her being the winner of the photo contest, it makes Jefferson at least a person of interest if she winds up missing.
I find it funny that I basically brute forced everything. Padlock on Step-douche's lockers? Break that shit open with a crowbar. Don't want to figure out the password to the phone? Just lock it up and put that code that was on the sim-card in. Also I loved when Max texted that she killed her plant and her mom was like well buy a new one. That's exactly what my mom would have said.
We know that Nathan was the one that drugged Chloe, but she didn't have a file on her in the bunker. I'm certain that Nathan knew about/was involved in Rachel Amber's death because of the whole Rachel in the Dark Room thing and he seems tormented by it. Also going to assume that the bunker is being referred to as the Dark Room. But it makes me really curious as to where Chloe fits in because it appears to me like Nathan acted on his own when drugging her because she didn't have a file and Jefferson simply shot her at the end of the episode rather than taking her with. I also think that Nathan having one of Max's selfies hanging on the wall in his room indicates that he probably doesn't want her to wind up dead, but that's just kind of my opinion.
I'm also curious if Rachel Amber or Kate Marsh was the anomaly. Did he kill all of the girls he abducted and Kate Marsh somehow escaped, or did he let them go and Rachel Amber's death was unintentional? I'm also wondering if Victoria was actually going to be the target all along, or if her file was simply a trap for Chloe and Max. I doubt that Nathan would have been down to go drug Victoria if he is working with Jefferson. Likewise, I think it'd be really fucking stupid of Jefferson to abduct/kill Victoria because well she basically asked him if he was dtf and has pretty much told the entire student body that Jefferson totally digs her. Especially with her being the winner of the photo contest, it makes Jefferson at least a person of interest if she winds up missing.
I find it funny that I basically brute forced everything. Padlock on Step-douche's lockers? Break that shit open with a crowbar. Don't want to figure out the password to the phone? Just lock it up and put that code that was on the sim-card in. Also I loved when Max texted that she killed her plant and her mom was like well buy a new one. That's exactly what my mom would have said.
MisterShine
Member
So alt Chloe and prime Chloe died the same day... we're headed into Steins Gate territory.
El.Psy.Congaroo.
MulderYuffie
Member
Or she might focus back to the point at the start of the party when Warren took the picture of him and her.
toastyToast
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I think Chloe is bound to die or something. Max even admits that her attempts at saving Chloe only causes her pain. Chloe is dead or is gonna come back only to die again good and proper for the last time
It's a total crapshoot with a mouse. I have a controller plugged in and it took me like two seconds to do it on that.
I play on PC and it takes me like 5 seconds, streamers just have an annoying habit of constantly looking at chat and missing crucial information
benicillin
Banned
Warren saving the day yet again.
User 479360
Banned
I didn't expect that reveal. What the hell!?
This was, by far, the longest episode, too. It took me quite a while, though I painstakingly searched for photos, which were tougher to find this time around.
This was, by far, the longest episode, too. It took me quite a while, though I painstakingly searched for photos, which were tougher to find this time around.
WrenchNinja
Member
Warren is great
benicillin
Banned
An average episode took me 2-3hrs, this one took me 4 and a half so yeah it was much longer than usual.
so, from what we know so far, here's my new theory
Jefferson is the mastermind, drugging and abducting female students (but not usually killing them?) for his weird-ass bondage photography
Nathan is his psychologically unstable and possibly unwilling accomplice
Rachel's death was either an accident or she knew too much and had to disappear. She's also apparently a spirit deer now
not sure how this all ties in with the supernatural elements yet
Jefferson is the mastermind, drugging and abducting female students (but not usually killing them?) for his weird-ass bondage photography
Nathan is his psychologically unstable and possibly unwilling accomplice
Rachel's death was either an accident or she knew too much and had to disappear. She's also apparently a spirit deer now
not sure how this all ties in with the supernatural elements yet