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[VGEsoterica]

Back in early summer LRG shipped D's Diner Directors Cut Special Edition out...and they burned all five games onto CD-R and expected nobody would notice. They then tried to cover their tracks and stated they used CD-R's for "better compatibility" as no replication house could press 3DO discs correctly so that could be read.

Which was absolutely untrue as the only difference between 3DO discs and any other CD is sector size, and that is irrelevant to replication houses. It's just a disc as far as they are concerned and I've had a good dozen mastering projects done on CD / DVD / Blu-Ray and trust me...not an issue.

Until the ex co-founder came out in an interview and stated other higher ups at LRG wanted to sell CD-R's because "it was cheaper and they wouldn't play or notice it"

well it did get noticed and WTF what a cheap, low down dirty way to save a buck. Like Frank Shirley cancelling X-Mas bonuses in Christmas vacation

Just another example of a company using "gamers" as a means to extract profit in return for junk. They saved a few dollars and now look at all the bad press they bought themselves

 

[Fake]

Fuck LRG.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Trash company, always has been.

Edit: 2 of the 5 CDr discs they sent you didn't run?? If they didn't send replacements it would have been lawsuit territory. That's probably the only reason they bothered to do so.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

What happened to ethical integrity and taking pride in quality?

 

[BennyBlanco]

Id rather buy repros from Aliexpress than give a red cent to LRG

 

[tommib]

My favourite game ever and I actually almost bought this despite having no use for it. I was almost A VICTIM.

RIP Kenji Eno.

 

[simpatico]

People still buy them because they don't trust Sony, Nintendo or MS to keep the servers running.

 

[Physiognomonics]

But isn't it illegal ?

 

[Spukc]

Limited fun games
At it again

Fuck them fuck them

 

[Punished Miku]

People still buy them because they don't trust Sony, Nintendo or MS to keep the servers running.

We're all eventually going to die. You can't take it with you.

 

[Mr Hyde]

LRG cornering a good portion of the physical release market is a damn shame.

 

[Isa]

What happened to ethical integrity and taking pride in quality?

Compared to what came before most games these days release with the bare minimum of effort sadly, in regards to physical releases I mean. So many incredible pack-ins and at least a color manual. I hope one day the industry can focus on providing the consumer with a quality product again, even if in boutique form like what's been going on with the physical movie industry lately. I have so many killer sets and singles of films that come with so much with many of them still costing a fair amount less than a regular game release so I usually grab a few.

We're all eventually going to die. You can't take it with you.

True, but at least you can pass it on to friends, family, or trade/sell.

 

[simpatico]

We're all eventually going to die. You can't take it with you.

I figure, as much as I like gaming, it's a vice. If shit goes down to the point that Valve pulls down Steam, it's probably alright to severely cut down on gaming.

 

[VGEsoterica]

What happened to ethical integrity and taking pride in quality?

Seriously. It’s not hard. Take money, deliver what you promised

 

[mrqs]

I don't understand what's the problem. Can someone explain to me?

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Man, I love your videos and that you have the energy to investigate this kinda stuff.

I've never been an LRG fan, but they've gotten progressively shittier over time. Fuck 'em.

 

[tommib]

But isn't illegal ?

I also wonder how they get the rights to release these?

 

[ssringo]

I don't bother with physical anymore so I only catch this kind of stuff when people post about it. They've been fleecing/shitting on fans for a while now haven't they?

Stop supporting them...

 

[VGEsoterica]

I don't understand what's the problem. Can someone explain to me?

TL: DR….LRG sold burnt CD-R discs expecting nobody would ever open the games. When they got caught they lied about the reason why they did it. Now the co-founder that left the company told people the other co-founder planned to sell burns to increase profits

 

[fart town usa]

LRG are dirtbags that ride the coattails of beloved IPs.

Your shelf is going to be just fine if you don't consume their vulture marketing. Show some self-restraint.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

I don't understand what's the problem. Can someone explain to me?

allegedly, CD-Rs dont last as long as professionally produced (pressed) discs.

CD-Rs have the data burned into them. allegedly, the marks left by the burning process (marks = data) arent as deep or accurately shaped.

when you buy a real DVD, CD, video game... those are all pressed discs.
theyre never CD-Rs. when you get a bootleg copy from a friend, it's a CD-R. and also when you buy from LRG.

burning discs is cheaper to produce than pressing discs.

 

[VGEsoterica]

allegedly, CD-Rs dont last as long as professionally produced (pressed) discs.

CD-Rs have the data burned into them. allegedly, the marks left by the burning process (marks = data) arent as deep or accurately shaped.

when you buy a real DVD, CD, video game... those are all pressed discs.
theyre never CD-Rs. when you get a bootleg copy from a friend, it's a CD-R. and also when you buy from LRG.

burning discs is cheaper to produce than pressing discs.

They def don’t have the same longevity

 

[Loomy]

Every time there's an LRG thread, people point out how shitty they. Why are we still buying from them?

 

[The Pleasure]

Seriously. It’s not hard. Take money, deliver what you promised

Ethics?

 

[Pejo]

Every time there's an LRG thread, people point out how shitty they. Why are we still buying from them?

Mostly lack of ANY other options 99% of the time. They unfortunately cornered the market on niche physical releases of old beloved IPs.

It always warms my heart when a thread pops up and people are (rightfully) shitting on LRG. Fuck them.

 

[baphomet]

I also wonder how they get the rights to release these?

By purchasing the rights from the rights holder

 

[nowhat]

They def don’t have the same longevity

I have a couple of cases of DVD-Rs (well, some may be DVD+Rs - remember that shit?). Pirating used to be a hot thing before streaming became the norm. Last I tried, most of them don't work anymore. Nowadays, I doubt any will. This is 100% scummy behavior and LRG should get all the hate they deserve.

 

[abercrombie]

I order a lot of my favorite physical games from LRG but this is disappointing; I would be not be pleased with a CD-R. I wonder, if it was difficult to get a batch of CDs made up for this promo, could have M-DISC been an option; would customers be OK with that? Nevermind, I see that MDISC is DVD/Bluray.

 

[baphomet]

I order a lot of my favorite physical games from LRG but this is disappointing; I would be not be pleased with a CD-R. I wonder, if it was difficult to get a batch of CDs made up for this promo, could have M-DISC been an option; would customers be OK with that?

It is never difficult to have a batch of CDs pressed.

M-Disc obviously wouldn't work in a 3DO.

 

[Spukc]

Every time there's an LRG thread, people point out how shitty they. Why are we still buying from them?

I don’t consider their shitty releases even legit for collectors. At best it’s those ali express repo prints from china for snes games.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Every time there's an LRG thread, people point out how shitty they. Why are we still buying from them?

Because lots of people can’t resist collector’s items, and if you want a physical edition of some games, it’s LRG or nothing.
They knew very well the niche they were targeting with this company.

 

[Duchess]

Every time there's an LRG thread, people point out how shitty they. Why are we still buying from them?

I've been holding out for a physical copy of Hi-Fi Rush that they're meant to be handling. I think I'm going to skip it now, and just get the digital edition.

 

[nightmare-slain]

Buy digital and you won’t need to worry about it.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Just another example of a company using "gamers" as a means to extract profit in return for junk. They saved a few dollars and now look at all the bad press they bought themselves

That is news how? The entire point of the company is to extract value from super niche physical copies because gamers are perfectly fine to be spending $100 on something that can be bought for $5 digitally.

 

[clem84]

I like their collector's editions. I've purchased many of their CEs over the years. Their Castlevania CEs are especially great. But yeah this is a fuck up. Hopefully a learning opportunity.

 

[Soodanim]

Until the ex co-founder came out in an interview and stated other higher ups at LRG wanted to sell CD-R's because "it was cheaper and they wouldn't play or notice it"

"None of these tech needs and enthusiasts will notice us cheaping out"

They were blinded by the chance at increased profit and couldn't see how retarded it was for them to think it was a guaranteed win.

The sad thing is that they have won, because people paid and no one has attempted legal action over their dishonest practices.

My only hope is that their comeuppance is that another company comes along to take the spotlight and conduct business with some integrity. Let's hope karma's feeling bitchy.

 

[Robb]

Wow, what a shit thing to do. People should be getting full refunds. That’s not the product they purchased.

 

[SkylineRKR]

They are cheapskates if they send CD-R. I remember seeing pressed PS1 discs around on black markets in the 90's, they were cheap as hell too. Absolutely better quality and the name was also engraved on the inside.

EDIT: I found them. They were HK Silvers from 'Players' with a Pacers (NBA) logo. I actually bought Bushido Blade 2 and a few others in this format, they didn't work on an unmodded system.

 

[tommib]

That is news how? The entire point of the company is to extract value from super niche physical copies because gamers are perfectly fine to be spending $100 on something that can be bought for $5 digitally.

D is on gog for like 5 euros:

D: The Game

1997, Los Angeles. A mass murder has taken place in a hospital. The criminal is the direc

www.gog.com

 

[Goalus]

Welcome to the physical future.

 

[nowhat]

D is on gog for like 5 euros:

D: The Game

1997, Los Angeles. A mass murder has taken place in a hospital. The criminal is the direc

www.gog.com

Shall I make yet another joke about your appreciation of D? I guess I shall.

 

[tommib]

Shall I make yet another joke about your appreciation of D? I guess I shall.

That’s what Freud said.

 

[nowhat]

That’s what Freud said.

I hope you don't take that personally, I have absolutely nothing against you. But the setup is just so perfect that I can't help myself. I consider myself something of a court jester.

 

[tommib]

I hope you don't take that personally, I have absolutely nothing against you. But the setup is just so perfect that I can't help myself. I consider myself something of a court jester.

I love you, man. I think you’re one of the best posters around and always super polite. And I love funny jokes about my gayness. I make them all the time.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

Everyone interested in retro gaming should subscribe to VGEso. Great channel:

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[kiphalfton]

What happened to ethical integrity and taking pride in quality?

Those words are meaningless to 99% of companies out there.

The other 1% tack on a ridiculous premium because of that.

 

[Drew1440]

Wasn't it the case these CD-R games wouldn't even play on an original 3D0 console which is what the game was intended for? At that point they are selling faulty goods.

I don't understand what's the problem. Can someone explain to me?

This is worth a watch, he goes into details of CD-R and the different CD formats used.


I have noticed a lot of the newer CD-R's have issues playing back on older CD drives, even when burnt at the slower speeds. The drive has no problem reading my old CD-R's from 2008 so it's not the laser or drive at fault, possibly they've changed the material used in newer CD-R discs that causes issues with older drives.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

I’ve heard many horror stories about that place. Usually along the lines of it being a corner-cutting shitshow with poor management.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

I never bought shit after they fired that Becky for something she said years ago. Company is full of weak men.

 

[Esca]

And they didn't even give them a jelly of the month subscribe. I've more resin to never but lrg fuck them