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LINDBERGH = X360 AC board ??

midnightguy said:
that does NOT settle it.

op_ivy said SONIC was controlled realtime on an Xbox 360 controller. and SEGA said the demos were realtime

however, that does NOT mean that House Of The Dead 4 was running on Xbox 360.
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right, as far as i know, sega hasnt confirmed that lindbergh isnt 360 though either. really, at this point, its one giant mess of mis-information and very little facts. it was interesting to me at least that sonic was manipulated with a 360 pad. that alone says either 1.) its 360 bound and that was running on 360 hardware. or 2.) sega is fucking retarded and/or just loves fucking with people and confusing matters.

of course it could be a mix of lindbergh (power vr) and unnanounced sega 360 games that was shown. certainly hotd4 and afterburner would fare FAR better in the arcade arena then on a home console (judging soley on what limited gameplay was shown and previous games in the series).

wait till tgs :)
 
I really want AfterBurner and Sonic BADLY. dont care too much about HOTD4 anymorem even though i would still buy it if it comes out on the 360.

Sonic is pretty much confirmed for both PS3 and Xbox360 so I assume it was running on an Xbox 360 Beta Kit.

as for AfterBurner, I cannot make up my mind if it is on 360 or Lindbergh. I hope it was on 360 since that would absolutely gauruntee I will be playing it in 2006 at home. whereas, if Afterburner was on Lindbergh, we might not see it at home until 2007.
 
Think about Sonic's audience.

Do you

1.) Make a Sonic arcade game on your original hardware that stays in game centers for six months
2.) Make a Sonic console game for a next generation machine
 
DCharlie said:
did you make sure to chain smoke and throw beer over the games whilst blaring death metal at a cool Spinal Tap "11" , or did you work in a branch that wasn't in London? ;)
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I worked at the head office near Warren Street. I was database assistant on the website, but did sales and the odd day at Rathbone place. I know that they were allowed to drink 'quite a bit' at one stage, though I haven't heard much about since. I wrote most of the product descriptions for the site from that time, so there's some pretty funny shit and you can clearly se which games I liked and which games I didn't know that much about.

I thought that the sonic demo was being controlled with a Saturn controller? That's what I read somewhere. Can anyone confirm?

has sega themselves mentioned power VR or was that speculation? if they havent, way too much is being put into the "seperation" of games at the e3 theater. its all 360
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There's a press release from last year stating that IT and Sega are in partnership to develop a new arcade board. I'm not sure about the E3 video and I think that the link to X360 is weak, though I wasn't at E3. Can anyone confirm if the demo was actually a part of the MS stand or seperate? Sega usually have their own seperate section as far as I know.

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At this point, the Sega representative took over and controlled the battle in real-time, defeating the Chaos Emerald-thieving villain in something of a blur of blue. The best thing about the whole event? The real-time section was controlled via a modified SEGA Saturn pad leading to a an undisclosed future platform.
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http://news.*****.com/detail/news.a...The+Exclusive+Behind%2DClosed%2DDoors+Preview
No specific titles were announced, and it was stressed multiple times that these are early demos put together to showcase the capabilities of Sony and Microsoft's next-gen consoles. From what we could tell, the footage was running off a development PC with a PlayStation 2 controller attached, which suggests it was a PS3 devkit.
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http://www.psxextreme.com/scripts/ps3-news/new.asp?newID=27
well, the announcer at sega's demo did kind of seperate full auto/condemed/chrome hounds from the remianing games... but that could also be because the remianing games were never, and have never, been announced (aside from hotd4). remember, sonic was being controlled in real time using a 360 pad.
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http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=55221&page=1&pp=50
 
I thought I told you guys that the E3 demos used USB Sega Saturn pad? And if the demo at one point was being controlled by USB X360 pad like others reported, then all it proves is that the hardware they were using had a damn USB port like 99% of development boards out there.
 
my guesses based on likely facts, previous revalations:

Sonic = Xbox360 and PS3

AfterBurner = Xbox360 or maaaaybe Lindbergh

Virtua Fighter = Lindbergh and/or maybe console... PS3 first, Xbox 360 last

House of the Dead 4 = Lindbergh, later ported to consoles

Chrome Hounds = Xbox 360
 
So it looks like what pad was being used mya be irrelevant. Oh bugger. I'm still betting on Lindbergh = Series 5 for VF, Afterburner, HotD, Daytona 3 and Sonic, as per the E3 video.

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I have no problem seeing new hardware (would be nice to have yet another piece of next gen hardware to compare), even if it doesn't quite live up to the xbox360/PS3. Considering the millions in R&D thrown at those consoles, it doesn't surprise me. Not sure why people were expecting Lindbergh to outclass the 360...I figured it would just be on par. There's no need for damage control, the pics are just not hot at all, but seems to look better in motion to those who have seen it, so not all is lost.

Also a super duper arcade board is probably possible if they were to use like 16 powerVR 5 graphics chips or something insane like that (Superkryo), but there'd be no market for such an expensive machine outside of Asia, nevermind that being a snot nosed fanboy's wet dream. How successful was the Model 3 for Sega....I wonder. I know that Naomi was extremely successful for them, which may explain their current thinking.
 
BlackClouds said:
I have no problem seeing new hardware (would be nice to have yet another piece of next gen hardware to compare), even if it doesn't quite live up to the xbox360/PS3. Considering the millions in R&D thrown at those consoles, it doesn't surprise me. Not sure why people were expecting Lindbergh to outclass the 360...I figured it would just be on par. There's no need for damage control, the pics are just not hot at all, but seems to look better in motion to those who have seen it, so not all is lost.

Also a super duper arcade board is probably possible if they were to use like 16 powerVR 5 graphics chips or something insane like that (Superkryo), but there'd be no market for such an expensive machine outside of Asia, nevermind that being a snot nosed fanboy's wet dream. How successful was the Model 3 for Sega....I wonder. I know that Naomi was extremely successful for them, which may explain their current thinking.
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hehe, even the mighty Model 3 of 1996 only used 2 graphics processors and 1 CPU.

NAOMI 2 used 3 graphics chips (1 for T&L, 2 for rendering). I think it would be pretty kickass to see a board with 4-8 PowerVR5 graphics processors. 16 would be like, overkill, even for arcade. although a 16-GPU machine would make a sweet render-box though,
like Evans & Sutherland's 'RenderBeast', SGI's 'UltimateVision' or Sony's 'GSCube' ^__^
 
Jeffahn said:
I was working at cex in 2K, so I played everything as much as I wanted.

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There is a big difference between "playing everything" and actually owning something.

I find it rather amusing that I supported Sega much more than you have. I'm almost wondering if it is the same for Lazy8s...

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i watched the girl control the sonic demo and i definitely did not see a 360 controller.
 
swordsman said:
Why should I buy this crap console.... :lol
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There is a big difference between "playing everything" and actually owning something.

I find it rather amusing that I supported Sega much more than you have. I'm almost wondering if it is the same for Lazy8s...
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I support Sega through evangelism and spending money on their arcade games. I will probably buy what ever console they decide to release their games on, though I do have my own projects I'm working on.

Buying DC games is supporting Sega, but then dumping the DC for the PS2 on the basis of hype is diametrically opposed to that idea.

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Shogmaster said:
I thought I told you guys that the E3 demos used USB Sega Saturn pad? And if the demo at one point was being controlled by USB X360 pad like others reported, then all it proves is that the hardware they were using had a damn USB port like 99% of development boards out there.
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hmmm, i could certainly be wrong, but i thought it was definitely a 360 pad. myfriends who went with me thought the same. and yeah, sure, sega could have used the 360 pad just as any old usb controller for the demo, but that would seem to me to be kind of dumb (i know, this is sega). why confuse your audience?
 
Buying DC games is supporting Sega, but then dumping the DC for the PS2 on the basis of hype is diametrically opposed to that idea.
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Ha ha, no.

Buying DC games is supporting Sega. Mourning its loss but moving on and buying MORE Sega games on other platforms is too.

I can't believe how you've f*cked Sega, though. You act as if you are a huge fan, yet you are unwilling to help them where it matters ("oh, Sega's in the red? We'll, I'm still not buying their games"). Screw you! You helped kill Sega! I bought most of my DC games on DAY ONE for FULL PRICE. I've been supporting Sega for YEARS. The DC was an incredible platform AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN SUPPORT IT. You claim that you were really hoping for Dreamcast 2, but you would not even have purchased it had it been released!

Evangelism? Don't make me LAUGH. You're BS turns more people against them. I love Sega, but it makes it seem as if I'm anti-Sega as a result of your "evangelism". Stop hurting Sega!!!!!!!

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op_ivy said:
hmmm, i could certainly be wrong, but i thought it was definitely a 360 pad. myfriends who went with me thought the same. and yeah, sure, sega could have used the 360 pad just as any old usb controller for the demo, but that would seem to me to be kind of dumb (i know, this is sega). why confuse your audience?
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It's probably the case of whatever USB controller they had handy throughout the course of the week. They probably didn't think of such consequences from each controller.
 
dark10x said:
Ha ha, no.

Buying DC games is supporting Sega. Mourning its loss but moving on and buying MORE Sega games on other platforms is too.
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You left out the dumping Sega for Sony bit.

I can't believe how you've f*cked Sega, though. You act as if you are a huge fan, yet you are unwilling to help them where it matters ("oh, Sega's in the red? We'll, I'm still not buying their games"). Screw you! You helped kill Sega! I bought most of my DC games on DAY ONE for FULL PRICE. I've been supporting Sega for YEARS. The DC was an incredible platform AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN SUPPORT IT. You claim that you were really hoping for Dreamcast 2, but you would not even have purchased it had it been released!
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I "f*cked Sega" by selling DCs and Dc games? How many have you sold?

Evangelism? Don't make me LAUGH. You're BS turns more people against them. I love Sega, but it makes it seem as if I'm anti-Sega as a result of your "evangelism". Stop hurting Sega!!!!!!!

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Why would anyone balme Sega for me defending the DC?

Pointless this anyway.

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You left out the dumping Sega for Sony bit.
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How exactly did I dump them? That doesn't even begin to make sense. So, you support something up until its death and, when faced with no alternative, you choose something else and become a fan of it. That somehow makes invalidates your appreciation for the OTHER company?! Odd...

NOT ONLY THAT, but I continued to support Sega when they had to switch platforms. I own a large number of Sega games for GC, PS2, and XBOX all while I have continued to support the DC with what few games continue to trickle out. What have YOU done for Sega recently?

I "f*cked Sega" by selling DCs and Dc games? How many have you sold?
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Yes. You preach support, but don't follow your own advice.

I've sold PLENTY of DCs (indirectly). I sold DCs like it was my job (which it wasn't).

Why would anyone balme Sega for me defending the DC?
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I certainly wouldn't balme you, but I DO blame you for aiding in the death of DC.

How shameless...
 
The controller was probably the Saturn pad throughout. The system being demonstrated was their own hardware they had put together earlier, so they'd logically rig it with their own controller. Everything they had wanted to imply with their demonstration was quite clear, and hinting that their internal demos were for one of the two consoles was not one of the implications. Using a 360 pad would've just sent mixed messages.
 
Jeffahn said:
You left out the dumping Sega for Sony bit.



I "f*cked Sega" by selling DCs and Dc games? How many have you sold?



Why would anyone balme Sega for me defending the DC?

Pointless this anyway.

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I don't understand your rationale here. Sorry for butting in here, but seriously....you're not making any sense.

dark10x bought his DC at launch, bought his games at full retail price and supported SEGA as a company by purchasing their products. He didn't dump the DC, SEGA dumped the DC. Had SEGA continued on with support of their system, I'm sure he would have continued to buy their games. But it was SEGA's choice to drop the system. So how is buying a Sony product afterward (or hell even during) somehow killing SEGA. It's called competition and support for more than 1 system is fucking allowed. He didn't dump one for the other, he supported both. Your logic is twisted. I own all 4 systems, did I somehow kill SEGA by supporting the others as well? No. I bought all of the systems, I bought games for all of them, I gave my support for all of them.

You on the other hand, did no such thing. You moan about SEGA's demise but you never supported them when it was needed.
 
Well this thread started retarded and looks like it's gonna end retarded.

Jeffahn, what a joke. As a huge Sega fan/supporter (even nowadays) I feel it is my duty to come in here and defend The Sega. You have some of the most fucked up twisted logic I've seen anybody try and defend here. I dunno why you're even in the thread, you are NOT a Sega fan or supporter by any means and watching you try to convince others that you somehow are is just plain ridiculous. You are the kind of fool that gives Sega fans/supporters a bad name. For you I would suggest never speaking of Sega again.
 
Tenacious-V said:
I don't understand your rationale here. Sorry for butting in here, but seriously....you're not making any sense.

dark10x bought his DC at launch, bought his games at full retail price and supported SEGA as a company by purchasing their products. He didn't dump the DC, SEGA dumped the DC. Had SEGA continued on with support of their system, I'm sure he would have continued to buy their games. But it was SEGA's choice to drop the system. So how is buying a Sony product afterward (or hell even during) somehow killing SEGA. It's called competition and support for more than 1 system is fucking allowed. He didn't dump one for the other, he supported both. Your logic is twisted. I own all 4 systems, did I somehow kill SEGA by supporting the others as well? No. I bought all of the systems, I bought games for all of them, I gave my support for all of them.

You on the other hand, did no such thing. You moan about SEGA's demise but you never supported them when it was needed.
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If you look back at that era you'll see what happened. Sega dumped the DC as result of the hype for the PS2 and against the DC. Hype which has since proven to be hokum. dark10x is infamous for switching teams realtively early on and being quite vocal about it. Like the PS2 initial adopters rationalised and denied the systems technical problems, so he continues to deny that he was suckered in by the hype. That the PS2 has delivered playable games is not the point as a hypothetical situation where people looked at the DC versus PS2 situation rationally would have arguably produced higher quality games for all concerned. Instead we had a situation where rabid hyper fanboys dictated the direction to be taken by the industry, to the detriment of Sega and gamming as a whole.

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Jeffahn said:
If you look back at that era you'll see what happened. Sega dumped the DC as result of the hype for the PS2 and against the DC. Hype which has since proven to be hokum. dark10x is infamous for switching teams realtively early on and being quite vocal about it. Like the PS2 initial adopters rationalised and denied the systems technical problems, so he continues to deny that he was suckered in by the hype. That the PS2 has delivered playable games is not the point as a hypothetical situation where people looked at the DC versus PS2 situation rationally would have arguably produced higher quality games for all concerned. Instead we had a situation where rabid hyper fanboys dictated the direction to be taken by the industry, to the detriment of Sega and gamming as a whole.

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I know what happened, I witnessed it. The DC was an amazing system, I'm not disputing that, but you can't blame dark10x for what happened. He supported SEGA. PS2 flew off the success of PS1 and because of the incorporation of DVD, and Sony is genius when it comes to marketing. You can't blame him for the masses of sheep out there who fall for marketing. That's what mainstreamers are, sheep. They're very fickle people and go for what's "cool" and "in" for the time. Regardless of quality product, Sony presented PS2 as "THE" system to own.

When something has that much momentum, it can draw in even the most hardcore of people with hype. Just because dark10x embraced PS2 doesn't mean he dropped DC support. SEGA couldn't keep up with the hype surrounding PS2 that Sony had created (mind you, I'm not including the extreme ease of pirating DC games, hindering game sales) It's SEGA themselves that couldn't draw back the crowd, and ultimately they had to back out due to that.

I bought the DC with the mentality that it was only a stop gap before my PS2 purchase. I liked SEGA so I supported them, but I knew they couldn't keep up, and I made my purchase knowing that.
 
Jeffahn said:
dark10x is infamous for switching teams realtively early on
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Document this shit.
Oh, how I'd love for you to document this shit.

Dark is very nearly completely neutral about all platforms. I gotta take off a few points because we enjoy a chuckle at Nintendo's expense on occasion.
I'm not speaking as someone who thinks they know him from a message board; no, us two is boys fo' life. For reals.

Platform bias and fanboy-ism is beneath him. Intelligent gamers like ourselves left that shit behind in the 16-bit era where it belonged.

DARK10X FOR PREZ

dot dot dot motherfucker

saying that you're still going to buy Sega games is not the same as sticking with a console.
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midnightguy:
hehe, even the mighty Model 3 of 1996 only used 2 graphics processors and 1 CPU.

NAOMI 2 used 3 graphics chips (1 for T&L, 2 for rendering).
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A processor, though, is its own subsystem and therefore doesn't imply much of a size limit. A processor could be made of multiple chips, like Xenos, or could be just a part of one chip, like separate cores on a SoC. Model 3 had many chips -- lots of silicon for a high price -- but had more than enough performance to match, and Naomi2 had around the silicon cost of DC/Naomi when they came out.
16 would be like, overkill, even for arcade.
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Setting the kind of benchmark that the Model 2 and 3 boards achieved back when they were released might take that much.
 
Jeffahn said:
You left out the dumping Sega for Sony bit.
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but sega dumped sega! for sony and microsoft no less.
and we, ie, me and dark, actually bought our sega games (our money which actually went to them!) for xbox and ps2.
as opposed to some people who willl not be mentioned *cough*jeffhan*cough*.

all you did by supporting their arcade games is make money for the arcade shop owner, who got drunk on weekends and had sex with women.

yeah, yeah. i've seen all sorts of sega fans in my life. dark is more of a sega fan than 100 of you put together.
 
ArcadeStickMonk said:
Document this shit.
Oh, how I'd love for you to document this shit.
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He's reconfirmed it here all recently. Saying things about how it was all so obvious to him once he saw MGS2 et al. How DC was so inferior; couldn't do all that rain he thought was composed of particles etc. etc. To him it's always been about who's going to have the best looking games.

Dark is very nearly completely neutral about all platforms. I gotta take off a few points because we enjoy a chuckle at Nintendo's expense on occasion.
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Nintendo still makes games? :lol Seriously, saying that you're still going to buy Sega games is not the same as sticking with a console.

I'm not speaking as someone who thinks they know him from a message board; no, us two is boys fo' life. For reals.
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Well that's OK 'coz we don't discriminate on this board after that guy came out last year.

Platform bias and fanboy-ism is beneath him. Intelligent gamers like ourselves left that shit behind in the 16-bit era where it belonged.

DARK10X FOR PREZ

dot dot dot motherfucker
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You can fool too many of the people too much of the time.

James Thurber (1894 - 1961), New Yorker, Apr. 29, 1939 "The Owl who was God"

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I've been a lurker on this board for longer than I can remember (I'd estimate..years..btw, does anyone remember the Sega Dreamcast Technical Pages?)...and I finally feel the need to step in...

Sega has always been a long-time love of mine and their history shows an output of quality I've rarely found in other developers (and yes, I've played many, many other games, from many developers over the years). While I have to admit, the current outlook of Sega looks very bleak in terms of their output compared to their previous days, there is always one area that Sega seems to always excel at - their ARCADE segment. Who here remembers "shock and awe" the first time they stepped up to a game of Virtua Fighter 1-3, a lap of Daytona, or even as far back as Afterburner and Outrun (hell, even the vector based Star Trek game). The name Sega is synonymous with arcade quality, period.

All of their arcade boards, such as System 16, System 32, Model 1, Model 2, Model 3, and even earlier incarnations, what have they shown us? Well for one, the arcade segment is not limited by a "$400 or less" stipulation. Arcade boards typically sell for many times this amount, because they are usually propietary systems with a long history of R&D devoted to them.

So I ask many of you who have posted thoughts on this thread about the limitations of a PowerVR-based Sega arcade board - why is it you think that a company well-known for their technical prowess in arcade hardware design could not surpass the specifications of a home console with a $300-400 price tag (even if these respective companies are taking a loss on the sale of these systems)? If you can imagine what can be done at this price, think of what can be done with an SH-5 CPU (possibly and probably multiple cores, or even an SH-6 class CPU, and the next generation of a PowerVR GPU, which we all know, despite its limited specifications compared to "BRUTE FORCE" GPUs, makes up for this with its elegant design and ultra-efficiency in tile-based rendering).

While Sega has always been "hit-or-miss" in the consumer console race, why is so hard to believe they can really succeed in the arcade realm, like they've done so many times in the past?

You guys will be hearing more from me in the future - you've stirred the hornet's nest... :)

- Big T_CpE
 
Jeffahn said:
saying that you're still going to buy Sega games is not the same as sticking with a console.
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This is so fucking brilliant that I'm going to get it tatooed across my chest and end every post with it. So people will know how fucking brilliant I am.


So what is sticking with a console? Are you not allowed to look at a competing console? Can't pass a kind word to the competion?
I remember those days, the bad old days, where we'd war in the streets nightly against the SNES playing scum. Thing is, it's 2005 and them days is not back.

So, Is owning a console a requirement for sticking with it? 'Cuz word on the street is, that you never owned a Dreamcast. Just what have you been sticking to?



saying that you're still going to buy Sega games is not the same as sticking with a console.
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I agree, this thread has turned stupid. Far as jeffahn owning the Dreamcast and whatnot...one man isn't going to make a bit of difference when it comes these consoles. So he used his job to play the games....so what. Dreamcast didn't fail because of him, nor his business would have mattered in the long run. I am concious of what's really going on here (character assassination :D )..so maybe that stuff can continue in PM's?

Many so called Sega fans nowadays really aren't, and suffer from that disease called fanboyism, of which the term originally comes from comic book fandom. Like those idiots who still read Batman, even though they think it sucks, but still calls themselves a fan of the book. Ofcourse this entitles them to diss the book non stop, and in the insular, small world of comics, they can paint a pretty sour picture if they speak loud enough. In essense shitting on the real fans parade who actually sincerely like the stuff, over something that's very subjective. You'd think if they thought it sucked, they'd stop buying or sampling the product and move on to something else, but no, they are the fanboy. BTW, I think the game industry is almost as insular...more customers, but the actual game making community, decision makers and distribution channels is small. The most trite fanboy, if he speaks loud enough can effect things, which is kind of pathetic. Works both ways, positive (Phantom Dust, Lumines) and negative (Virtua Quest).

Another aspect of the fanboy, they deny this and will continue on hating, probably because it's so easy to create a negative atmosphere around what they're hating on, people that don't care can easily jump on the bandwagon. Don't expect me to play nice when somebody unfairly dogs Sega while claiming to be a Sega fan. Not saying anybody in this thread does that ofcourse, but they have known to exist at GAF. One game isn't going to doom Sega, even if I agree that they will have to start performing in the Next Gen or risk being left behind.
 
ArcadeStickMonk said:
This is so fucking brilliant that I'm going to get it tatooed across my chest and end every post with it. So people will know how fucking brilliant I am.


So what is sticking with a console? Are you not allowed to look at a competing console? Can't pass a kind word to the competion?
I remember those days, the bad old days, where we'd war in the streets nightly against the SNES playing scum. Thing is, it's 2005 and them days is not back.

So, Is owning a console a requirement for sticking with it? 'Cuz word on the street is, that you never owned a Dreamcast. Just what have you been sticking to?
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Rationality. You can't try to convince me that people were rational about DC versus PS2. You're trying to make it sound as if Sega dumped the DC as a matter of course. Do you not think they would have preffered to have remained making games on their own console? Do you regard their current output as superior in comparison to that era? Do you really think they would not be making better gameson their own hardware and increasing competition in the industry? They knew they were in for tough fight against Sony, yet what forced them to give up the DC were people who fell for the Sony hype and forced Sega to abondon the DC.

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Jeffahn said:
Rationality. You can't try to convince me that people were rational about DC versus PS2. You're trying to make it sound as if Sega dumped the DC as a matter of course. Do you not think they would have preffered to have remained making games on their own console? Do you regard their current output as superior in comparison to that era? Do you really think they would not be making better gameson their own hardware and increasing competition in the industry? They knew they were in for tough fight against Sony, yet what forced them to give up the DC were people who fell for the Sony hype and forced Sega to abondon the DC.

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Well, if you're still bitter about it all these years (and you don't even own a DC so I have no idea what games you're playing anyway)...

...why haven't you found a new hobby? I hear cross-stitching is fun and enjoyable.
 
Oh wow. That's a whole different tone than you've been using. I also notice how you are adressing many points that I didn't bring up or care about.

I also notice how you didn't address the one important point that I brought up. Do you know what I'm talking about? I think you do. No biggie; I'll restate it, in bold so you can't miss it, and you can try again.

So, Is owning a console a requirement for sticking with it? 'Cuz word on the street is, that you never owned a Dreamcast.



And of course this thread is stupid. Any thread with the words "Sega" or "PowerVR" in the title are stupid. Clowns like Lazy and Dotty-Dot-Jeff are the ones making these discussions non-functional, because they each just push one bullshit point over and over while ignoring the real criticisms leveled at themselves.

I gave Dark a break on this one and disregarded my own advice to humiliate the fuckers instead of reasoning with them in any capacity. Sorry, it's been a slow week for me; however, I promise we will return to our agreed upon methods of guerilla warfare and hillarious imagery to put a stop to Bullshit Sega Threads once and for all.

Hornets nests, yo!


saying that you're still going to buy Sega games is not the same as sticking with a console.
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i like how a guy who didnt support sega at all is accusing other sega console owners of not supporting them.

am i the only one who is exploding in laughter or is there something wrong with me?
 
HOTD4 rumours quashed
19/07/2005 12:31

SEGA has gone on record to deny rumours that the Lindbergh arcade board - as used in the new House of the Dead 4 arcade game - is built around Xbox 360 hardware.

A representative confirmed to Eurogamer that the HOTD4 demo on show at E3 was running on a Lindbergh board, but added: "Lindbergh is not based on next-generation consoles."

And there are no current plans to develop an Xbox 360 version of the game, either: "While SEGA has announced a new arcade version of House of the Dead, the company cannot confirm a next-gen console version at this time," the representative told us.

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Rumours have also been flying about regarding Virtua Fighter 5, but SEGA told us the same rules apply - there are no plans to bring the franchise to 360 at present. So there you have it.
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http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=60108
 
"SEGA has gone on record to deny rumours that the Lindbergh arcade board - as used in the new House of the Dead 4 arcade game - is built around Xbox 360 hardware.

A representative confirmed to Eurogamer that the HOTD4 demo on show at E3 was running on a Lindbergh board, but added: "Lindbergh is not based on next-generation consoles."

But Gamespot said that Japanese sources revealed...

Oh wait, fact checking, they're new to that.
 
Since day one of E3, it has never been in question: Afterburner, Virtua Fighter, The House of the Dead 4, and Sonic demos = Lindbergh = old PowerVR Series 5

The new Series 5 and beyond, Eurasia, will probably be looked at when Sega Sammy update Lindbergh after the first wave of arcade releases.
 
I can understand how some people became confused with Sega showing their arcade stuff after the X-Box demos at E3.

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Hmm, I don't think this picture is very representative of the video footage of HOTD4 I saw at E3. It looked very nice in motion.

I thought I told you guys that the E3 demos used USB Sega Saturn pad? And if the demo at one point was being controlled by USB X360 pad like others reported, then all it proves is that the hardware they were using had a damn USB port like 99% of development boards out there.
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The whole presentation looked to me like it was pre-recorded realtime footage. I doubt the controler was actually used for anything significant there anyways.
 
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