Lord of the Rings trilogy - Great movies? Or greatest movies?

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Fellowship of the Ring is my favourite film
Sam is my favourite character
The ring wraiths are my favourite bad guys
Gandalf is my favourite wizard

I would have liked more
- horses
- beautful emotial scenes with Sam and anyone
- Sam+Frodo, Sam+Gandalf, Sam+Sauron, Sam+an elf, Sam+me

I would have liked less
- fighting
- Legolas
- green things

I hate Wormtongue

I love Sam

If I would choose i would choose for Sam to go on the boat with Frodo in the end and they could have a platonic releationship in elvenland on the other side of the water. I hate his wife she's so fat

The tower movie is grey and a bit boring but it's good when there are good scenes and the third is the smae. I think the first is the best overall though
 
ilikeme said:
Fellowship of the Ring is my favourite film
Sam is my favourite character
The ring wraiths are my favourite bad guys
Gandalf is my favourite wizard

I would have liked more
- horses
- beautful emotial scenes with Sam and anyone
- Sam+Frodo, Sam+Gandalf, Sam+Sauron, Sam+an elf, Sam+me

I would have liked less
- fighting
- Legolas
- green things

I hate Wormtongue


I love Sam

If I would choose i would choose for Sam to go on the boat with Frodo in the end and they could have a platonic releationship in elvenland on the other side of the water. I hate his wife she's so fat

The tower movie is grey and a bit boring but it's good when there are good scenes and the third is the smae. I think the first is the best overall though

I thought the guy they got for Wormtongue was outstanding.
 
A few months ago Yahoo had a poll amongst it's users that asked "Of all the movies that have one the Oscar for Best Picture, which is best film?" Supposedly 700,000 people voted.

The winner by an apparent considerable margin? Return of the King, to my enjoyment. The writer was kind of annoyed that The Godfather didn't win, but he also said that Return of the King is the kind of movie modern audiences love (case in point --> 11 Oscars).

I agree Fellowship is easily the best of the three for repeated viewings. For RotK, I never watch the theatrical version (this is true for all of the movies, but RotK especially) and the editing choices made at the end of the film still bother me to this day (Hey, Peter, fade to black means "Das Ende", kapeesh?).

But yes, I do agree they're some of the greatest films ever, simply because of how ground-breaking they were, in addition to being fantasy films.
 
Loxley said:
A few months ago Yahoo had a poll amongst it's users that asked "Of all the movies that have one the Oscar for Best Picture, which is best film?" Supposedly 700,000 people voted.

The winner by an apparent considerable margin? Return of the King, to my enjoyment. The writer was kind of annoyed that The Godfather didn't win, but he also said that Return of the King is the kind of movie modern audiences love (case in point --> 11 Oscars).

Those 11 oscars were certainly deserved, mainly for the trilogy. 17 oscars in all right?
For the kind of production it went through, the production process and everyone involved, the amount of love everyone put into it, the talent, the result of all that, all in what was.. 7 years roughly? Thoroughly deserved.

I love watching the appendices on the EE set. They absolutely fascinate and inspire me.
 
Personally I found the theatrical versions of both TT and ROTK to be the better versions. Four plus hours for extended ROTK was stretching it, and the stuff that it added didn't really have a big impact (stuff like the House of Healing was a bit extraneous).
 
a concorde moment for special effects and production design. a perfect synergy of traditional methods and digital technology, the likes of which we'll in all likelyhood never see again.

here's hoping del toro recognizes this.
 
Jesus, I forgot Fellowship was nominated for 13 Oscars in and of itself (it won four). I remember it being nominated for Best Picture (lost to A Beautiful Mind) and Best Supporting Actor (Ian McKellen) but I mean...wow. I think I was too young to really understand just how fucking good that movie was.
 
Dabookerman said:
Those 11 oscars were certainly deserved, mainly for the trilogy. 17 oscars in all right?
For the kind of production it went through, the production process and everyone involved, the amount of love everyone put into it, the talent, the result of all that, all in what was.. 7 years roughly? Thoroughly deserved.

I love watching the appendices on the EE set. They absolutely fascinate and inspire me.

Not to mention the risk. It wasn't like making 2 Harry Potter films at once, 2 matrix films at once, etc. Those are guaranteed to make money. There was no baseline for how LotR would do. They took a huge risk in making all 3 at once like they did, and it paid off big.

Loxley said:
Jesus, I forgot Fellowship was nominated for 13 Oscars in and of itself (it won four). I remember it being nominated for Best Picture (lost to A Beautiful Mind) and Best Supporting Actor (Ian McKellen) but I mean...wow. I think I was too young to really understand just how fucking good that movie was.

Movies like LotR are just proof that there needs to be a "Best Ensemble Cast" category
 
Loxley said:
Jesus, I forgot Fellowship was nominated for 13 Oscars in and of itself (it won four). I remember it being nominated for Best Picture (lost to A Beautiful Mind) and Best Supporting Actor (Ian McKellen) but I mean...wow. I think I was too young to really understand just how fucking good that movie was.


I was so pisst.
 
This thread has got me reminicisng a lot.

I'm such a Tolkien geek that the movies are not great, greatest or whatever. They took me to a place that was as close as can be imagined on the whole to what i'd read and lived for 20 years. Peter Jackson and his team did an utterly amazing job with something deemed 'unfilmable' - and for that i'll always be grateful.

A few things I disagree with, but hell I'd tell The Beatles to rewrite many of their songs :P
 
fellowship is my favorite. <3 sean bean

pretty much anything related to the Ents in Two Towers was terrible. so I couldn't stand about 1/3 of the movie

I have the theatrical of Fellowship and Two Towers and the EE of Return of the King. I kind of regret buying the EE of RotK since I feel it's weaker than the theatrical.

But the EE of Fellowship is fucking fantastic. I should have bought that for the extras alone.
 
At the very least it gave us one of the greatest film scores ever.

Breaking of the Fellowship is a masterwork.

QFT.
So many great moments.

Can't decide if my favourite is 'Foundations of Stone' or 'The Grey Havens'

Howard's genius through the trilogy was the way he managed to merge themes and reinvent stuff. - like when Gandalf ascended through the layers of Minas Tirith and you FINALLY heard the Gondor theme you had heard before, but this time in all it's glory.

Phenomenal stuff.
 
I was disappointed with the Minas Tirith music. It sounded much more exciting in the trailer


hated ROTK, liked FOTR, loved TTT. Still can't understand why Jackson had to change all that stuff, and I kinda hate the movies because of it


but certainly loved the Ents, expecially their showdown at Saruman's in which they kicked all sorts of asses. I also felt SO relieved when that poor tree was set aflame, and saved his own wooden ass at the end
 
gollumsluvslave said:
QFT.
So many great moments.

Can't decide if my favourite is 'Foundations of Stone' or 'The Grey Havens'

Howard's genius through the trilogy was the way he managed to merge themes and reinvent stuff. - like when Gandalf ascended through the layers of Minas Tirith and you FINALLY heard the Gondor theme you had heard before, but this time in all it's glory.

Phenomenal stuff.

I'd recommend the Complete Recordings to anyone wanting the most comprehensive listening experience, the ROTK album itself is made up of four discs and is close to four hours in length, absolute bliss. I'm actually listening to it right now, specifically The Battle Of The Pelennor Fields. So good. :)

FOTR.jpg
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ROTK.jpg
 
LOTR has one of the greatest scores in a trilogy ever. It is the most consistent, beautiful and epic piece of music ever.

For Frodo and The Crack of Doom..

<3
 
Once when I was a kid I was enthralled by a golden pool of epic magic called the star wars trilogy. Growing up, especially after the next star swars trilogy started it became apparent to me I would never live to experience that again. I was wrong. LOTR Trilogy gave that to me as an adult. When my sister calls me the week before and says she wants to take me each time to the premieres to a fantasy movie of all things there is something huge there.
 
Loxley said:
Jesus, I forgot Fellowship was nominated for 13 Oscars in and of itself (it won four). I remember it being nominated for Best Picture (lost to A Beautiful Mind) and Best Supporting Actor (Ian McKellen) but I mean...wow. I think I was too young to really understand just how fucking good that movie was.
Me and a buddy waited until the very last day they were showing Fellowship in the theatre here before we went. They had even moved the showings to a smaller screen by that time.
God what a stupid kid I was back then.

ntropy said:
Each repeated viewing becomes more and more unbearable.
sort of like your posts
 
To be honest all three films were shot with such care and love, it doesn't matter, remember Tolkien never thought of the story as a trilogy - it was a single story forced into 3 parts.

All 3 films IMO are great, and having recently done an extended edition marathon I can say this:-

Fellowship Theatrical > Fellowship Extended.
ROTH & TTT Extended easily better than the theatrical versions.

IMO TTT EE > FOTR TE> ROTK EE

But it's all by a bawhair, cos it's simply a whole.

It's not the greatest trilogy ever cos it's not a triloogy.
 
I find it really hard to judge each film. I just count them all as one entity. One doesn't work without the other two.

You could argue that the first act is better than the last two etc or whatever.

I don't really like trying to pick my favourite.

Each film has so many favourite moments for me.

The way Frodo and Sam are sent off, with the journey etc, Boromir's death.
Legolas, Aragorn and Gimli chasing the orcs, Helms Deep.
Battle of Pelennor Fields, The Crack of Doom, the ending is beautiful.

Gah, my favourite films ever.
 
All told I've only seen FOTR 3 times since it's original release, once in the theatre, again on home video prior to watching the two towers in the theatre then a third time prior to watching return of the king. Two towers is my favorite of the 3 though, I saw it twice in the theatre then a couple more times on home video. Return of the king I've only ever seen once. About all I remember is that it was a long ass movie.

So bearing that in mind I really can't fairly judge something I haven't seen in over 5 years very well.
 
I suppose Peter Jackson did what he could with some genuinely awful source material. The movies at least have some nice shots in them. They were a nice reminder of why I don't read sci-fi/fantasy.

Invincible ghost armies. :lol
 
Really liked Fellowship, felt like a roleplaying game. The others were OK, a little long. Fell asleep in the theatre during Return of the King.
 
gtfo with this "not the greatest films..." caveat bullshit. FOTR is one of the greatest fantasy films ever, if not the greatest - and one of the best films of the 21st century. It's the best paced out of the trilogy, and imo the books are the same way; TTT and ROTK feature lots of stuff that isn't particularly interesting (Perry and Pippen's arc is especially boring in TTT for instance).

It's certainly better than typical films Solo likes
 
subzero9285 said:
I'd recommend the Complete Recordings to anyone wanting the most comprehensive listening experience, the ROTK album itself is made up of four discs and is close to four hours in length, absolute bliss. I'm actually listening to it right now, specifically The Battle Of The Pelennor Fields. So good. :)

Yes THIS THIS THIS!! When I got into LOTR and even purchased the EE's for the movie I got this. 140 songs of pure awesomeness!!! Howard Shore is a true genius. Listening to the Fighting of Uruk-Hai now =P
 
DjangoReinhardt said:
I suppose Peter Jackson did what he could with some genuinely awful source material. The movies at least have some nice shots in them. They were a nice reminder of why I don't read sci-fi/fantasy.

Invincible ghost armies. :lol

Just so you know, the books are like, one of the biggest selling and well loved books of all time. You are in the extreme minority to seriously call them "awful".

Parallax Scroll said:
But I feel less inclined to rewatch two towers than the other two. It just wasn't as enjoyable.

Well that's the thing, why would you? It's almost like watching the middle of a long film, you just don't do it. I never suddenly feel like watching Two Towers becuase, it's just odd. FOTR is so accessible because it's the start of the trilogy. It's easy to watch the beginning of a movie, and maybe get bored, and not watch it again for 6 months. But then when you do decide, you don't watch the middle.

I personally think what PJ and the crew did with Two Towers was better than what most could do. They said themselves it was the hardest of the three to do, because it's filming the middle act of a film into one movie. It's not exactly easy.
 
I think the strength of the adaptations came from the fact that the crew fully grasped the emotional focii of the books. Sure the epic battles and inane Legolas stunts provide immediate appeal for everybody, but the emphasis on the relationships between an ensemble of characters make the films unforgettable. Many of us can probably name at least five scenes per film that illustrate that interactions, right off the bat. That's a really tough thing to do for ONE movie, let alone THREE.
 
PhoenixDark said:
gtfo with this "not the greatest films..." caveat bullshit. FOTR is one of the greatest fantasy films ever, if not the greatest - and one of the best films of the 21st century. It's the best paced out of the trilogy, and imo the books are the same way; TTT and ROTK feature lots of stuff that isn't particularly interesting (Perry and Pippen's arc is especially boring in TTT for instance).

It's certainly better than typical films Solo likes


Well we have 91 years to find out.
 
Great trilogy and probably the best trilogy for a while.

To me it's like this Fellowship of the Ring = Return of the King > The Two Towers (by a bit)

But they're all immense, fantastic epics. Return of the King is pretty much a war movie. Return of the King does things better than Fellowship while vice versa. It's definitely a fantastic trilogy but it requires alot of time and patience.
 
Dabookerman said:
He said one of the greats. It will always be one of the greats.

Will it? 91 years is a long time and is I think is a period of time longer than films have been around for.
 
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