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Lost in Translation - one of the most depressing movies ever?

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Alucard

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Both times that I've seen it I've felt pretty damn depressed by the end of it. It's just so...sad. I love the movie but damn it for having such a depressing effect. Scarlett Johansson will one day be my girlfriend.
 
I just saw this movie for the first time the other night. I really liked it. I really want to know what he whispered in her ear at the end of the movie though.
 

Matlock

Banned
Replace "depressing" with "worst," and you've got how I feel about it.

DarthMungKei said:
I just saw this movie for the first time the other night. I really liked it. I really want to know what he whispered in her ear at the end of the movie though.

"I have gas."
 

mattx5

Member
It's in the script, I remember reading it, can't remember what it was at the moment. It was nothing special, something along the lines of 'I'll miss you too" or something like that, I might be wrong though.

I think they were wise to leave it up to interpretation.
 

Alucard

Banned
Matlock said:
Replace "depressing" with "worst," and you've got how I feel about it.



"I have gas."

I can totally see how people wouldn't like it. I can also see how people would totally love it too though...especially since I happen to be one of those people. Heh. It's not a traditional movie, and I love it because it's so personal and real.
 

Killthee

helped a brotha out on multiple separate occasions!
Matlock said:
Replace "depressing" with "worst," and you've got how I feel about it.



"I have gas."

IAWTP

I really don't understand why anyone would like this film.
 

Teddman

Member
Well, dramatically it's sad because you want them to somehow stay together, or for their adventures in Tokyo to go on. But overall, I found it uplifting--two people who are unhappy and despondent in their lives are jolted by an unexpected human connection, in the unlikeliest of places.
 
Teddman said:
Well, dramatically it's sad because you want them to somehow stay together, or for their adventures in Tokyo to go on. But overall, I found it uplifting--two people who are unhappy and despondent in their lives are jolted by an unexpected human connection, in the unlikeliest of places.
I agree with this viewpoint.

But I'll also throw in that it's a mediocre movie.
 

MetatronM

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I don't think it was very depressing. Quite the contrary, actually. I didn't even think it was all that great of a movie, but it really reminded me that I wanted to go to Japan and got me motivated enough to seek out a good way/excuse to go for an extended trip. 3 months later, I was wandering about Tokyo.

So I wouldn't personally classify that as depressing.
 
Depressing? More like boring. I could think of quite a few films that are far more depressing than Lost in Translation. Dancer in the Dark for example, now that's fucking depressing.

LIT is a train wreck that may be sad, but it's only sad because you wasted 2 hours on such a boring movie.
 

Alucard

Banned
I dunno. Maybe you just have to be in the right mood for Lost in Translation. I can watch it pretty much any time, but it's best in the evening. Definitely one of my favourite films ever.

On the depressing scale though, I'd probably put Magnolia over any movie I've ever seen. Despite the ending also being kind of uplifting.
 
That's funny, because I've seen the movie 5 times now, and each time I feel really good after having watched it. Never knew it was that versatile.
 

Alucard

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Mike Works said:
That's funny, because I've seen the movie 5 times now, and each time I feel really good after having watched it. Never knew it was that versatile.

It could also be 'cause I haven't had a girlfriend in well over a year. :p But I'm just guessing here. And yeah, I guess the movie is pretty versatile. I mean, I'm happy because they found eachother and expressed their feelings at the end, but sad because they had to say goodbye and will likely NEVER see eachother again. That's the depressing part for me.
 

Paradox

Member
Ive seen it twice, enjoyed it both times. It also made me more happy then depressed though.


My Ideas of depressing movies: Requiem for a Dream, House of Sand and Fog. All hail Jennifer Connelly, the queen of depressing movies :)
 
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Deleted member 1235

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DarthMungKei said:
I just saw this movie for the first time the other night. I really liked it. I really want to know what he whispered in her ear at the end of the movie though.

Bob: Why are you crying?
Charlotte: (sincere) I'll miss you.

He Kisses her, hugs her goodbye

Bob: I know, I'm going to miss you, too

He holds her close

from the script matt posted.....
 

puck1337

Member
I don't think that it's depressing. I think that it's actually kind of uplifting, because it shows that no matter how difficult the circumstances seem, you can always find someone enjoyable to pass the time with.

edit: Ahh damnit someone already said that almost word for word.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Lost In Translation is one of the best movies in years. Yeah, not everybody likes it, and some people hate it. Well guess what fucknuts, true art is NEVER liked by everyone, and doesn't try to appeal as broad an audience as possible. If LiT clicked with you, you'd appreciate how it's a beautiful movie on so many levels, and direction-wise it is a true film. The best art of every medium is art that couldn't be reproduced and appreciated in any other medium. Lost In Translation is the epitome of that for film-making. While most movies could be enjoyed to some extent from the script alone, turned into a book or started off as a book in teh first place, try translating LiT into a piece of literature. ........You can't. If you can detach yourself from expecting the standard formula for film-making you're far more likely to appreciate a movie like this.
 

darscot

Member
Lost in Translation is brilliant. If you`ve ever been to Japan the movie is so realistic it`s scary. It`s like watching a slice of your life.
 

yoshifumi

Banned
Paradox said:
Ive seen it twice, enjoyed it both times. It also made me more happy then depressed though.


My Ideas of depressing movies: Requiem for a Dream, House of Sand and Fog. All hail Jennifer Connelly, the queen of depressing movies :)

requiem for a dream was like getting punched in the stomach

and house of sand and fog was like getting punched in the stomach and then getting hit with a brick
 

Pachinko

Member
no LIT strip can be complete without the following bob the angry flower strip


lostin.gif
 

SKluck

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Disagree. I don't see the merit, purpose. Certainly a great premise, but it fell apart. Ending made no sense.
 

etiolate

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Also: The Virgin Suicides > Lost in Translation

Yeah Virgin Suicides is better and a lot more depressing really.

A few other more depressing movies:

Requiem for a Dream
House of Sand and Fog
American Beauty
 

darscot

Member
I can`t belive so many of you didn`t get it. Well I guess I can. If you`ve ever travelled thats exactly what its like and the simple relationship makes perfect sense. You guys need to get out more.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
SKluck said:
Disagree. I don't see the merit, purpose. Certainly a great premise, but it fell apart. Ending made no sense.
Where exactly did it fall apart, and what about the ending did you not understand?
 
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Deleted member 1235

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darscot said:
I can`t belive so many of you didn`t get it. Well I guess I can. If you`ve ever travelled thats exactly what its like and the simple relationship makes perfect sense. You guys need to get out more.

Sorry, I've been trying to get out TO JAPAN more.

I can see why people didn't get it, it's just bad luck for them.

Bill murrays the man. I want him to get an oscar damnit.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
And why the fuck are people trying to 'outdo' LiT by listing more depressing movies? LiT was not supposed to be a Schindler's List-killer. Who ever said it's supposed to be a downer movie?
 

fart

Savant
i thought it was a load of bourgeouis bullshit.

the script has also confirmed that the final scene was machete in the jungles of da nang.
 

darscot

Member
I guess it`s just one of those love or hate movies. If you`ve ever lived the hotel lifestyle it`s just so raw and pure it`s unreal. It perfectly captures what it`s like. On the other hand if you`ve never experienced something like that it would be hard to comprehend.
 
I think it's one of the most overrated movies, especially at GAF.

One movie that always leaves me depressed is Legends of the Fall.
 

XS+

Banned
darscot said:
Lost in Translation is brilliant. If you`ve ever been to Japan the movie is so realistic it`s scary. It`s like watching a slice of your life.
Maybe for most people but not me. Other than the 'damn lookit all the bright lights and crazy buildings' part I couldn't relate too much with this flick.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Teddman said:
Well, dramatically it's sad because you want them to somehow stay together, or for their adventures in Tokyo to go on. But overall, I found it uplifting--two people who are unhappy and despondent in their lives are jolted by an unexpected human connection, in the unlikeliest of places.
I wouldn't say it's either sad or uplifting. It's both at once, or more accurately, it's bittersweet. "Just remember, the sweet is never as sweet without the sour," and vice versa. I'm a big believer that the best kind of emotion is that sort of indescribable combination of sadness and beauty. I'd say Lost in Translation does a pretty good job of evoking that. A little bit is depressing and a little is uplifting, but the two complement each other and create something more than each on their own. You can appreciate both at the same time. It's what being truly alive is all about, as far as I'm concerned.
[/end vaguely sappy rant]
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Agreed. I'd say it does the same kinda thing very effectively too.
 
I really liked Lost In Translation but do feel it's overrated. It, like Donnie Darko, has become this way through the wannabe artsy crowd who praises it to feel like they are part of something.
 

Dice

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Lost in Translation is probably the best movie I have ever seen. And I really don't see how it is depressing, the ending is extremely hopeful. I'd say the back of the box has a very good summary of the point of the movie in case you missed it. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have about it.
 
SKluck said:
Disagree. I don't see the merit, purpose. Certainly a great premise, but it fell apart. Ending made no sense.

Actually, the ending made total sense. I found it the most satisfying ending in years.
 
And I don't understand how anyone could like Spiderman.

Anyways, to be entirely serious. I loved LIT, it's a love it or hate it film, but honestly, why completely bash it? It's not a horrible film at all if people somewhere are getting something out of it. Maybe because I can side with one of the characters and feel their feelings that I'm able to get into it. Plus I love Japan as well, so I'm humored throughout the film.

A movie is not crap because you cannot get into it. A movie is only crap when, it simply does not achieve its goal at any point for any person. Not even I label a movie as crap when I don't like it and someone else does. That's just silly.

Anyways, to the original subject, depressing? I can't say I feel depressed at any time throughout the film. The ending is very uplifting I think because you have to realize, rather they want to stay together, they will always remember each other. It was a chance meeting and worked out well. You don't forget these kinds of people you interact with. There are some people in my life, that I barely got to spend time with or talk to, that I still remember to this day. They brought an emotion in me that I've never felt before, almost a very swept off my feet kind of feeling. I nearly fell in love with that person. This is why I enjoy the film so much, it touches my heart. We have to remember that movies can't always be understood and loved by something that's on paper. You can't always like a movie for a set formula or for an exact reason. A lot of films are driven by emotion that are targeted at certain people. Take a gay themed film for instance. If I were to have, someone watch... Soldier's Girl or many people. Some may dislike with reasons that it's boring, the acting doesn't quite portray reality to an extent or it's over emotional. But someone who can feel and know the characters is going to love it. LIT is the same case.

You can't always judge film by your own feeling, or by a text book of examples. It often just comes down to who you are, which is really the basis of all opinions. Nothing is worthless because you don't like or understand the love for something. Nothing in this world is truely overrated either. It doesn't take much thought at all to understand why someone else would love such a film.
 

Celicar

Banned
I thought it was one of the most boring movies ever. Nothing happened. I guess it was depressing considering I spent $12 to see it.
 
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