LTTP: Batman: Arkham Asylum

Yeah, one of the best games I've played no question about it. As most others I wasn't that impressed with the boss fights, especially the fight with the Joker. Other than that I really didn't like the detection mode, not only because it was too powerful but because it pretty much ruined the visuals. I guess I could have simply not used it but I hate gimping myself in games, shouldn't have to you know?
 
It looked great, had nice atmosphere, and was an original yet faithful vision of The Batman but I wound up not finishing this game. I wanted to love it but couldn't.

It's really just a bunch of mini-games stitched together. I give them credit for blending them so seamlessly together with an interesting plot but by half way through the mini games themselves held no interest.

Also the pacing was quite slow. I really found no quick way to get through scenes that were getting boring. You had to play the mini games methodically until they were done.

Still interested in what the sequel holds but I'm no liable to play unless they make some big changes.
 
Dyno said:
It looked great, had nice atmosphere, and was an original yet faithful vision of The Batman but I wound up not finishing this game. I wanted to love it but couldn't.

It's really just a bunch of mini-games stitched together. I give them credit for blending them so seamlessly together with an interesting plot but by half way through the mini games themselves held no interest.

Also the pacing was quite slow. I really found no quick way to get through scenes that were getting boring. You had to play the mini games methodically until they were done.

Still interested in what the sequel holds but I'm no liable to play unless they make some big changes.
What? "Mini games stitched together"? I'm really scratching my head here.

Do you consider "progress through an area" to be a mini-game? Doesn't that make practically every game a series of mini-games?
 
Darklord said:
The combat was some of the best melee fighting in any game of it's kind.
Not really, you were completely overpowered against 3 types of enemies other than the stealth sequences, and the bane clone fights.

It does capture the batman feel of being completely badass, but as a battle system, it's nowhere near satisfactory.
 
Shig said:
What? "Mini games stitched together"? I'm really scratching my head here.

Do you consider "progress through an area" to be a mini-game? Doesn't that make practically every game a series of mini-games?

By mini-games I mean there are a number of actions or activities that are separate unto themselves and are not interupted by other actions or game mechanics.

Fight a group of thugs
The silent predator from atop the gargoyles
Detective work/follow the trail
Fight a big boss with the batarang
Scarecrow stealth levels
(that's all I remember right now)

It's the opposite of Bioshock where you are given a bunch of tools and use them when and wear you see fit. In B:AA they are given hard separations and as you advance through the story you are told when you are to play them.

Not a crime by any means and again I was impressed by how they moved from one to the next with narrative inbetween but the games were getting basic after a few hours.
 
Dyno said:
By mini-games I mean there are a number of actions or activities that are separate unto themselves and are not interupted by other actions or game mechanics.

Fight a group of thugs
The silent predator from atop the gargoyles
Detective work/follow the trail
Fight a big boss with the batarang
Scarecrow stealth levels
(that's all I remember right now)
Those aren't really mini-games. That term refers more to the little games you would play in a party game, like Mario Party. You should probably think of a different term.
 
IMO, it's a flawless game. I finished it about a week ago and couldn't think of anything I would change about it. Simply a perfect game.

My only complaint was that Detective Mode took away from the great graphics. I often had to remind myself to turn it off to appreciate the art assets.
 
Boney said:
Not really, you were completely overpowered against 3 types of enemies other than the stealth sequences, and the bane clone fights.

It does capture the batman feel of being completely badass, but as a battle system, it's nowhere near satisfactory.
Have you done the challenge rooms?
 
LosDaddie said:
IMO, it's a flawless game. I finished it about a week ago and couldn't think of anything I would change about it. Simply a perfect game.

My only complaint was that Detective Mode took away from the great graphics. I often had to remind myself to turn it off to appreciate the art assets.
Not even the terrible boss fights?

Prophet Steve said:
Have you done the challenge rooms?
I did some, but wasn't really having fun, and a friend lent it to me along a huge stack of other games, so I moved on. I realize Gold (or was it platinum) medals are hard to get because you have to link every punch, batarang and counter in order to get a high score, and it indeed flows very smoothly. But it's really auto pilot for me.
 
Boney said:
Not really, you were completely overpowered against 3 types of enemies other than the stealth sequences, and the bane clone fights.

It does capture the batman feel of being completely badass, but as a battle system, it's nowhere near satisfactory.
I feel like the main game presented it badly, it didn't really make you use it with style or finesse. The clusters of enemies it threw at you could largely be overtaken by mashing one attack incessantly.

Only when you got into the Challenge Rooms and were forced to really explore the different attack types and mix them up a lot to meet the score requirements did its genius become apparent.

And in a way, the stealth challenge rooms are the same. Main game you could just dick around forever waiting for goons to get into position, Challenge rooms forced you to work fast and set enemies up proactively and creatively.
 
Boney said:
Not even the terrible boss fights?
Terrible? More like boring at the very worst. Scarecrow and Ivy fights were pretty good,but even the worse boss battles are by no means "terrible"
 
XiaNaphryz said:
Those aren't really mini-games. That term refers more to the little games you would play in a party game, like Mario Party. You should probably think of a different term.


No, that's what I mean. You are playing various games within the game. When you are fighting a group of thugs you have to play the game and fight them. There is no option to not fight or try another set of tactics. This is the Thug Fight room and you are to get to it. Once you've finished the Thug Fight game you can move on and do something else. It's the same with all of the gameplay segments in the title. Each is separate from the other and each is played on its own

The only difference between this and Mario Party is that in MP you choose what mini-game you want to play. In B:AA it's chosen for you according to what's going on in the story.
 
Just replayed the game because of the holiday Steam sale, this time getting all 1000 points. I don't think I've ever felt more empowered in melee combat than I did in the challenge rooms when I finally mastered all the moves and started stringing together x40+ combos. I can't think of any recent games with better campaign pacing either.

This is game is fantastic.
 
Agreed about some of the boss fights. Bane and Killer Croc were garbage.
And some areas were a little hard to navigate.

Besides that, perfect game.

I'm worried about Arkham City's vibe/villain.
Joker was so strong and things were creepy and "oh shit this is crazy".
 
Been playing it up this week, im up to
Croc, when Arkaham is surrounded by giant plants.

Incredible game, what a pleasent surprise. Is all filled with so many deatil that it feels incredible.
The charcters, the scenery, all the bios, the riddler ridles.
Its all magnificent. Its turning one of my favourite games this generation.

And the spanish localisation of the game is OUTSTANDING, one of the best ive seen hear. The voice acting is superb, a rare thing with spanish dubs in videogames.
I cant think how they had the genious of getting the majority of the voices of the the Batman animated series of the 90's in their spanish version. Hearing again Harley the same as when I was a kid is just awesome.
And even in the changes, like the joker (he was great in the 90's version, but is even greater in the game) is magnificent. The old voice of the joker was very good, but this one. WOW, the voice actor is one of the best that we have here (and one of my favourites, so thats a plus), José Padilla, and he is amazing. Its all wacky and menacing, and it just trolls all the people. Its great. This man also voices Mickey Mouse, Zapp Braniggan, Seymour Skinner, to only name a few, and let me say he is excellent and have a very chamaleonic voice.
And batman has the spanish voice of Christian Bale in the Cristopher Nolan movies, thats fucking ace.

The game screams perfection in the details and becuase of that feels awesome.

If I can say something bad, is seeing all the famous enemy bios, and knowing they are not going to be in the game. I havent seen much of Arkaham City, but just thinking about seeing all this villians in a full Gotham makes me drool.

My favourite parts are the Scarecrow moments and all of the Joker scenes and dialog.
And back to the game again!
 
Shig said:
I feel like the main game presented it badly, it didn't really make you use it with style or finesse. The clusters of enemies it threw at you could largely be overtaken by mashing one attack incessantly.

Only when you got into the Challenge Rooms and were forced to really explore the different attack types and mix them up a lot to meet the score requirements did its genius become apparent.

And in a way, the stealth challenge rooms are the same. Main game you could just dick around forever waiting for goons to get into position, Challenge rooms forced you to work fast and set enemies up proactively and creatively.
I'll probably return to it in a bit if I get too bored, but if a campaign is lacking, that's something to criticise.

sn00zer said:
Terrible? More like boring at the very worst. Scarecrow and Ivy fights were pretty good,but even the worse boss battles are by no means "terrible"
Yeah they were pretty fucking terrible. Same as the Bane and Joker boss fights. I guess Croc was nice, but you had to do the whole terrible look for plants and fire a batarang when he resurfaces bit.
 
Such a great game. Ran through it on hard on both consoles. Was pretty disappointed the sequel wasn't at E3 2010 :(

Only thing I'd ask for is additional costumes ala Spiderman on PSOne, and maybe a co-op mode on a much harder difficulty.
 
Boney said:
Not even the terrible boss fights?
The boss fights were pretty terrible, but I honestly also didn't like the actual combat. Most of the time it felt like I was just pressing Y and shit. Pretty boring. The game just wasn't fun and I never finished it. It didn't help that the game looks pretty terrible art wise and was disgusting to look at.
 
Rahxephon91 said:
The boss fights were pretty terrible, but I honestly also didn't like the actual combat. Most of the time it felt like I was just pressing Y and shit. Pretty boring. The game just wasn't fun and I never finished it. It didn't help that the game looks pretty terrible art wise and was disgusting to look at.

*Glances at tag*

Too easy.
 
By the way, I didn't had the detective mode on all the time. I found it higly unpractical for fights, and when I tried to approach an enemy form above I could never tell if ther was a concrete layer between him and me.
 
Ephemeris said:
*Glances at tag*

Too easy.
What an amazing counter point. Truly a great and respectable reply. I truly respect your stated opinion and even though I don't agree with it I'm sure I wont make stupid assumptions about you.
 
Look at his avatar. He's Batman. Batman doesn't talk. He acts. Cause he's Batman.

Edit: Dammit, Ephemeris. You just ruined it =(
 
A really well thought game, it was impressive how well it bought together elements that are taken for granted in gaming but normally so separate. As others have said it made you "feel" like Batman. It immersed you in that role better than most roleplaying games.
 
AshMcCool said:
Look at his avatar. He's Batman. Batman doesn't talk. He acts. Cause he's Batman.

Edit: Dammit, Ephemeris. You just ruined it =(
Batman also has bat nipples, I don't know if hes the epitome of good taste.
 
I thought the game was fine, but I'm a little bewildered by the incredible response it got. The game just didn't feel concise to me. Part of it was the tighter camera, part of it was the simplified controls.

Anyways, my main complaint was actually how constrained the game felt, which was obviously by design, so I have high hopes for Arkham City.

Just good to see a decent superhero game after a while.
 
This thread reminds me, I'm going to obsess over Arkham City, I wish that I wouldn't seeing as AA came out of nowhere basically and I went in blind.
 
kamspy said:
I have. It's really unique, but it doesn't handle crowd control nearly as deftly as Arkham.
I guess if pressing the X button and teleporting to every enemy counts as crowd control, I guess?
 
Boney said:
I guess if pressing the X button and teleporting to every enemy counts as crowd control, I guess?
ITT: Game well-loved by most is talked smack upon by a rabid fan of Other M.

Maybe the problem is you, Boney. Maybe the problem is you.
 
Shig said:
ITT: Game well-loved by most is talked smack upon by a rabid fan of Other M.

Maybe the problem is you, Boney. Maybe the problem is you.
Perhaps.

And I identify all the problems and potential problems Other M has, so I don't see why this is ibeing brought up.
 
I loved this game so much. I couldn't stop playing it until I had everything completed. That's pretty rare for me.

My only problem with it is that it gives you no reason to replay it. :\


Also, Arkham is easily the best looking game using the Unreal engine so far.
 
LTTP

bought this game on launch day and only played it like for 20 minutes, biggest gaming mistake in my life. This shit was awesome, you really do feel like batman and its so badass. Stealth and combat were great and so were the graphics.

This is the first game since uncharted 2 I beat in 1 sit down, bosses were shit but croc's whole area was kick ass, I think if I had played this game back in 09 it would have been my GOTY.

Only good thing about playing it late is that the wait for arkham city won't be so brutal.
 
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