LTTP: The Tree of Life (And Art Films)

Fuck, I just remembered

Watch The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

I'm surprised no one's mentioned it yet, tbh; there's a ton of fans of this great film on GAF, and it's got one of Brad Pitt's best performances
I saw One More Time With Feeling from the same director, and after seeing that I immediately added that to my watchlist. That and Killing Them Softly.

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, although it is a documentary, One More Time With Feeling is kind of an art film in a way too.
love both, didn't think either were art films...wait...what is an art film? this thread is doomed.

I'll throw out there films by Luis Bunuel I guess. This seems really arbitrary. Do people just consider slow films to be art films?
From Wikipedia:
An art film is typically a serious, independent film aimed at a niche market rather than a mass market audience.[1] An art film is "intended to be a serious artistic work, often experimental and not designed for mass appeal";[2] they are "made primarily for aesthetic reasons rather than commercial profit",[3] and they contain "unconventional or highly symbolic content".[4]

Film critics and film studies scholars typically define an art film as possessing "formal qualities that mark them as different from mainstream Hollywood films",[5] which can include, among other elements, a sense of social realism; an emphasis on the authorial expressiveness of the director; and a focus on the thoughts, dreams, or motivations of characters, as opposed to the unfolding of a clear, goal-driven story. Film scholar David Bordwell describes art cinema as "a film genre, with its own distinct conventions".[6]
 
Steven Soderbergh's Schizopolis is his best film. It is challenging to get into, interpret, and digest, but probably his best work overall. Maybe the best short description is Being John Malkovich with more comedy, less pathos, and substantially less accessible.

Russian Ark is an absolute triumph of the cinematic form, and also not strictly speaking a narrative film.

Koyaanisqatsi and its two sequels are closer to the short film work you'd see in a gallery showing than the kind of films you normally see in theatre.
 
The demarcation between "art" and "commercial" film is completely meaningless, and my advice to OP would be to not worry about such labels or distinctions. A film is a film.

If you enjoyed Tree of Life, definitely echo the suggestions of checking out the rest of Malick's filmography. His earlier films, in particular, are surprisingly accessible given their (imo misleading) reputations.
Pretty much. There's a contingent of crazy people on the net who think Edgar Wright films are too artsy. So I wouldn't worry too much about the separation between commercial and so called art films.

But I would highly recommend OP watch Under The Skin. Images from that movie are forever etched in to my brain.
 
I saw One More Time With Feeling from the same director, and after seeing that I immediately added that to my watchlist. That and Killing Them Softly.

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, although it is a documentary, One More Time With Feeling is kind of an art film in a way too.

From Wikipedia:

Nick Cave and Warren Ellis did the soundtrack for Jesse James too and its easily one of the GOAT osts.

plus Casey Affleck...beast of an actor.
 
I'd definitely recommend all of Malick's work. A Thin Red Line and The New World are the first two I'd recommend before moving on to his other films.

Charlie Kaufman's Synecdoche, New York and Anomalisa are also must-watches even if they are quite different from The Tree of Life stylistically.
 
Tree of Life is a deeply emotional journey through grief, acceptance, and what it means to live. I loved it. Half the people at the screening I was in walked out. Lol.

I recommend Wong Kar Wai films to anyone who liked it. Just pick any one which sounds interesting and go.
 
My absolute favourite film of all time. I legit can't make it through without bawling like a child. So goddamn beautiful.

Glad you enjoyed it OP.

Bless Malick.
 
Upstream Color/Primer
Two indie experimental sci-fi drama films by Shane Carruth. Primer, a time-travel story, is a particular darling of the sci-fi movie community, often billed as one of the most realistic depictions of time travel and its paradoxes. Upstream Color is less overtly sci-fi but is my personal favorite, dealing more with themes of trauma, fate, and psychological intimacy. It's a really beautiful film and is actually often compared to Malick's work in general and Tree of Life in particular. Both are kinda cool in that Carruth not only wrote, directed, and starred in them, but was also responsible for editing, music, and cinematography. Real indie production but of incredible quality.

Valhalla Rising
From Nicolas Winding Refn (probably most famous for Drive and Bronson), the story of a Viking warrior who journeys with a group of Crusaders on a quest for the Holy Land only to end up in lost in pre-contact North America. It's thoroughly grim and hypnotic, filled with feverish vision sequences and scenes of haunting solitude, starring Mads Mikkelsen in a powerful performance of few words. Some might find it more excruciating than entertaining, but it sounds like it might be up your alley.

Samsara
An experimental documentary by Ron Fricke with no narration or overt narrative. More of a meditation on modern life throughout the world, its themes (which admittedly can get a bit heavy-handed at moments) are told through montage, visual poetry, and masterful timelapse photography, all underscored by a fantastic soundtrack. Fricke is one of the pioneers of the use of timelapse in cinema and his previous documentary, Baraka, is much in the same vein and worth checking out. He was also the cinematographer for Koyaanisqatsi and its sequels, the legendary avant-garde documentary trilogy to which this film owes its lineage.

If you're at all interested in the history of experimental cinema, try checking out some of the classic works like Man with a Movie Camera, La Jetée, and Meshes of the Afternoon. Experimental films and video art are one of my great interests, but you definitely need the patience for it or else it can easily become grating or overbearing.
 
Tree of Life is dope, but Thin Red Line and Days of Heaven are his best imo.

You should get into Bergman and Tarkovsky next. Koyaanisqatsi is also an amazing gateway into purely visual cinema.
 
I understand it but it's a strange distincton to make. Every kind of film can classify as art. The only criteria for me is that it has to feel personal.

People have already covered most of the obvious recommendations so I'll mention Tarsem Singh's The Fall, Hari Kiri and most importantly the Three Colors trilogy as well as La Double Vie de Veronique. These movies will blow your mind and shatter your heart.

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Tree of Life is dope, but Thin Red Line and Days of Heaven are his best imo.

You should get into Bergman and Tarkovsky next. Koyaanisqatsi is also an amazing gateway into purely visual cinema.

Philip Glass' soundtrack is so damn good. I prefer Baraka more though.
 
Here's some art, avant-garde and experimental films (or films with avant-garde elements) that I really enjoy. I know you asked specifically for films like Tree of Life but there are very few films outside of the rest of Malick's work that are directly comparable.

-2001
-La Dolce Vita
-Stalker
-Le Mepris
-The Killing of a Chinese Bookie
-Mulholland Drive
-Aguirre, The Wrath of God
-8 1/2
-Pierrot Le Fou
-In The Mood For Love
-Breathless
-Synecdoche, New York
-La Jetee
-The 400 Blows
-The Passion of Joan of Arc
-Hiroshima mon Amour
-Bicycle Thieves
-Battleship Potemkin
-Blow-Up
-Persona

The Wikipedia page on art film has tons of good examples too.
 
Tree of Life is pretty popular on moviegaf and so is Malick. I'm not that much of a Malick fan and still haven't seen Tree of Life. Badlands is great though.

Edit: closest to Malick you're gonna get are films by Apichatpong Weerasethakul and David Lowery.

Ah ok. I guess I remembered incorrectly.

Anyway yeah, this movie is a really enjoyable ride and I need to get into the rest of Malick's library. His style really is amazing and one of my favorites.
 
Is "art film" a generally accepted term in the cinematic community? Seems really stupid tbh. Implying that making films with mass appeal is not an art, and that any movie which could be off-putting to some is artful.
 
Is "art film" a generally accepted term in the cinematic community? Seems really stupid tbh. Implying that making films with mass appeal is not an art, and that any movie which could be off-putting to some is artful.

It is but "art film" is a specifically an English term. I usually hear and prefer the term "art house" over art film.

In Europe, it is often called auteur film, which I quite like.
 
Tarkovsky is Malick's spirit animal.

Honestly most art films are pretentious schlock, but the best of them are really great. Malick is able to really straddle that line at his most balanced.
 
I watched Knight of cups a few days ago. Anyone interested into sharing what to felt from the experience?

Just a wandering through life movie? There is a lot of apparently aimless walking. I also thought there was a constant reference to Egypt, about the original story. Cues in the OST and great building shown all across, for me, echoed it.
 
Tarkovskys Mirror would be my recommendation.

2001, Koyaanisqatsi, Holy Mountain, Persona, Simon of The Desert, Eraserhead, Heart of Glass, Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors, 8 1/2.

All favorites of mine. According to Wikipedia Sunrise A Song of Two Humans is an art film as well so add that to the list.
 
Everyone keeps mentioning persona but not bergmans other works


I saw wild strawberries and the seventh seal in school, never got to see persona. Highly recommend both
 
Everyone keeps mentioning persona but not bergmans other works


I saw wild strawberries and the seventh seal in school, never got to see persona. Highly recommend both
Love both The Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries but Persona is easily the best Bergman film I've seen.
 
OP, for more recent suggestions, try Winter Sleep, Leviathan and Cemetery of Splendor. All made in the last 5 years and all three are near perfect.

Love both The Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries but Persona is easily the best Bergman film I've seen.

He's like my third favorite director and I love almost all of his films and I think Persona is a pretentious pile of shit. Hate that movie with a passion.
 
Check out Enter the Void if you want to see the "opposite tree of life"

EDIT: Maybe you'll like The Great Beauty
 
The Tree of Life was a triumph in film making. It was such a unique vision with good acting and superb cinematography. What an original way to tell a pretty simple story in such a meaningful way.
 
Saw it in the cinema when it came out with my dad. Don't know why I even thought of taking my dad to an arthouse film, let alone a Malick film. Turns out he really liked it. After the film, we discussed parenting and father/son relationships.

I should take more people with me to all the arthouse films I go see by myself usually. Last time was taking my friends to see Simon Killer, and them surprisingly liking it despite the odd cinematography and subject matter being about a "nice guy" turned sociopath.
 
Here you go , OP

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RAW is bloody coming of age tale with one of the most insane siblings rivalries I've ever seen. Tense. Colourful. Shocking. And the Soundtrack is bonkers.

Also I came in this thread prepared to defend Tree of Life, glad you liked it. Subsequent viewings are even more rewarding.
 
Steven Soderbergh's Schizopolis is his best film. It is challenging to get into, interpret, and digest, but probably his best work overall. Maybe the best short description is Being John Malkovich with more comedy, less pathos, and substantially less accessible.
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Someone else with the same opinion on Schizopolis as me?! Certainly one of the most imaginative and absurd comedies I've seen.
 
Not a fan of that title Art Film, do we have Art Music, Art Novels and Plays?

Cinema of ideas, concepts and structure.

Op if you have the stomach for it watch Enter the Void hard going in places but well worth watching.

A Field in England is another good one.
 
Fuck, I just remembered

Watch The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

I'm surprised no one's mentioned it yet, tbh; there's a ton of fans of this great film on GAF, and it's got one of Brad Pitt's best performances

Brad Pitt said in his recent interview he hated his acting in that movie


that aside, it's one of my all time favorite films, I've seen it many times
 
Everyone keeps mentioning persona but not bergmans other works


I saw wild strawberries and the seventh seal in school, never got to see persona. Highly recommend both
Persona (1966) different type of emotions, but you can give it a try and then see if you want to check out more Ingmar Bergman after that.
I find Persona to be pretty out there for Bergman. His work is usually more straight forward, so disliking Persona wouldn't preclude you from liking his other work.
 
"Art film" strikes me as kind of a useless term.
I think it's fairly useful to signify what the viewer will be getting into. Would you prefer "experimental"?
Not a fan of that title Art Film, do we have Art Music, Art Novels and Plays?

Cinema of ideas, concepts and structure.

Op if you have the stomach for it watch Enter the Void hard going in places but well worth watching.

A Field in England is another good one.
There is Art Rock.
I'd be interested in getting into Art Art, though it's a bit difficult to parse.

I don't know if I was too young, but I really didn't like Enter the Void. I felt like the trailer with the awesome music fooled me. I'm pretty critical of anything Western dealing with Japan, though. So often it feels very voyeuristic and shallow to me.
 
I don't know if I was too young, but I really didn't like Enter the Void. I felt like the trailer with the awesome music fooled me. I'm pretty critical of anything Western dealing with Japan, though. So often it feels very voyeuristic and shallow to me.
I didn't like it too much either. Not because it's a Westerners eye towards Japan but because I think it's an hour too long.
 
I didn't like it too much either. Not because it's a Westerners eye towards Japan but because I think it's an hour too long.
That, too... and the super long scene of tons of random people just banging. Such powerful art!!
 
The 'Lacrimosa' cosmic universe sequence overwhelmed me to the point of tears and I'm not entirely sure why. One of my favourite films.

As others have said, if you enjoyed it you should check out Malick's earlier films, Tarkovsky, Koyaanisqatsi, Upstream Color, Synechdoche New York.
 
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