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LTTP: Uncharted: The Lost Legacy is some of the best of Naughty Dog

LordOfChaos

Member
Things I think Naughty Dog is good at:
-Believable, almost living, breathing, characters
-Adventure
-Atmosphere
-Mystery and exploration
-Train sequences

Things I like less
-The gunplay, especially with tedious waves of enemies type levels
-Not knowing where to go for too long/pointless searching

So finishing Uncharted 4 I kind of just thought it was ok. There were good bits, there were also boring bits, the pacing could have been better. The Lost Legacy was almost perfect in this regard, there was narry a boring bit to it, start to end it had a density of gameplay and lack of filler that was really refreshing not just from 4 but from almost all modern AAA gaming.

The other thing I really enjoyed as someone of Indian heritage is the respect and detail they put into it. I've never seen a western movie, TV show, book, or game before this ever use the Persian invasions of India as a subject matter, I was kind of blown away by the use of that, the detail in the temples and monuments, it made me want to look up what inspired Naughty Dog to do this, and how they were able to do it so much justice. The density of life, the wetness, you could almost smell the damp ancient temples if you've ever been to such a thing. And Asav which was hinted at reigniting the same communal tensions through his bomb without ever really spelling it out which remained respectful and non antagonistic to modern communities.

The environment and backstory was almost more of a draw than the fighting, but there was usually a silenced pistol and enough foliage to find which to me is better gameplay than just gunning down waves of mooks.

To me, that was Naughty Dog at some of its best, and did a lot better than even it's main series title in 4.

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yurinka

Member
Nah, Lost Legacy is the worst ND game ever made.

Due to wokeness they removed the white male main stars Nate and Sully and replaced them by manlified and uglyfied non-white women, plus all the men in the game are limited to be bad guys or dumb characters.

In addition to this, its story is the least appealing one of the Uncharted games. They should have kept it as just the DLC it originally was instead of promoting the project to a standalone game.
 
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Fbh

Gold Member
It was my favorite ND game from last gen.
Not perfect but at least the pacing is decent and they mostly kept the focus on the gameplay instead of constantly forcing you to play through boring and barely interactive story sequences.
The setpiece with the train at the end was amazing too.
 

LordOfChaos

Member
She looks very good in that photo, for some reason she doesn't look like the Lost Legacy model I saw in the game:

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Well they aged everyone up in 4. Sometimes in-gameplay it doesn't look great but a lot of the times does. This one moment she's pushing through a cave crack I was like...Woof.

But really, your other complaint is that she's non-white? I always thought she was the best looking one, and this is also an existing character and not turning Harry Potter into a black queer woman or something. Something I've heard from more than one of my friends is that they were sleeping on Indian women but are now super into them and realized they were hot lol.
 
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StueyDuck

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Uncharted 1 -> lost legacy were all fantastic games.

I hope naughty dog is able to rekindle some sort of magic.
I enjoyed TLoU2, the 3rd person action is still unmatched, but I'm burnt out on that franchise, there's just too much shit surrounding it and within it. It's hard to find enjoyment in it anymore
 

LordOfChaos

Member
Uncharted 1 -> lost legacy were all fantastic games.

I hope naughty dog is able to rekindle some sort of magic.
I enjoyed TLoU2, the 3rd person action is still unmatched, but I'm burnt out on that franchise, there's just too much shit surrounding it and within it. It's hard to find enjoyment in it anymore

I'm excited to see them do something new now

 

yurinka

Member
But really, your other complaint is that she's non-white? I always thought she was the best looking one, and this is also an existing character and not turning Harry Potter into a black queer woman or something.
I have no issue at all with her being female or from whatever ethnicity. I loved the character in Uncharted 2. I'm a big Claudia Black fan too.

My issue is companies like Sony removing / replacing iconic characters because of their gender, skin color or sexual orientiation or uglyfying them, acting as if a main character being a man, white, heteresexual or attractive would be a bad thing just to get white signalling medals from the woke religion / ideology that certain western economical elite is forcing everywhere.

I'm excited to see them do something new now

They mentioned "other games" (more than one) in addition to TLOU Online. Once TLOU Online got cancelled, they mentioned to focus on SP games. Meaning, early 2023 they had minimum two SP games under development, and later we knew none of them is TLOU3.

I assume one of them may be a new IP apparently hinted in TLOUP1 remake where as I remember appeared a dragon and a black woman.
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The other one could be the Uncharted spinoff that according to Jason from Bloomberg Bend started to work on and later abandoned to work on their own next new IP. Maybe an Uncharted game with Cassie, the daughter, which could also be the reason of apparently including her on a PS ad (heavy Uncharted 4 spoilers regarding who Cassie's parents are):

Uncharted is one of the biggest PlayStation IPs and now it's getting movies, I think they won't kill the IP.

Maybe after having cancelled TLOU Online they started a third SP game being TLOU3 to quickly reuse a lot of work done in TLOU Online and quickly relocate most of its devs.
 
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mitch1971

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Lost Legacy was fantastic. Just the right length. My only bother was the semi open parts they took from UC4. Apart from that it was the game I hoped UC4 could of been. Chloe actress is fantastic in it. The relationship that grew between the two leads was well timed and thought out.
 

StueyDuck

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LordOfChaos

Member
I have no issue at all with her being female or from whatever ethnicity. I loved the character in Uncharted 2.

My issue is companies like Sony removing / replacing iconic characters because of their gender, skin color or sexual orientiation or uglyfying them, acting as if a main character being a man, white, heteresexual or attractive would be a bad thing just to get white signalling medals from the woke religion / ideology that certain economical elite is forcing.

Again though there's a point to this not being a numbered main series Uncharted game. It's like saying Halo ODST wasn't about Master Chief. Well yeah, that's where they have the freedom to do something else.
 

LordOfChaos

Member
I know the prevailing rumors are suggesting fantasy game, but I really wish it was the sci-fi game rumor. Especially after something like starfield it would be great playing a space game with meticulous detail (I'm a sucker for sci-fi)

Same, a sci-fi with Naughty Dog level detail would be cool
 
Eh. Lost Legacy was fine. I'd rank it in the middle.

It played as well as Part 4, but I just did not care about the core conflict.

We never met Chloe's dad, so I feel nothing for him. All we know is he seems to have repeatedly abandoned his family to search for treasure, so I don't know why Chloe puts him on such a pedestal. I also don't understand why she hired Nadine. They have no prior relationship and Nadine hates the Drake brothers, whom Nadine is closely associated with. Nadine has years in the treasure hunting business, so surely she has other contacts she would have called first. Why not Charlie Cutter from Part 3?

I don't know anything about the political situation in India, so I didn't understand the villain's motivation. I don't understand how the villain obtaining some artifact would make him some sort of rightful ruler of India.

Nadine still sucks. I can't feel sorry in any way, shape, or form for her that she lost ownership of her private military corporation that she inherited from her father (fucking nepo baby), nor was it ever explained how she lost control of it. Did she sell a bunch of stock options to Orca and he called them in? Regardless, fuck PMCs. Fucking war mongers.

The game finally got interesting when Sam arrived on the scene. He is the one redeeming thing in this game and the only reason I would recommend it to anyone.

By analogy, Lost Legacy felt like listening to a Greatest Hits album of a band, but then finding out all the songs are actually covers. It's familiar and well assembled, but it just doesn't have the magic that made the originals.

My personal rankings of the Uncharted games, bearing in mind I've never played Golden Abyss because I've never owned a Vita:

4 > 2 > LL > 3 > 1.
 
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RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
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Been playing this for the last few days as I fancied a bit of light hearted adventuring and jesus I had forgotten not only how good this game is but how absolutely stunning it is.

From the moment you open the big round door and gaze at the absolute wonder of the massive stone elephant gods to this level I've just reached, it's a constant stream of holy good fuck moments, the level design, the environmental artists, everything is just pure brilliance on a level that Tomb Raider just simply can't hit no matter how they get in some respects.

I had also completely forgotten the story so it was a nice bonus to see that Sam is in here having recently finished my second play through of UC4, man I wish ND threw out more of these smaller self contained stories with the same level of polish as their mainline games.

What id do to be a fly on the wall in their head office to see what these guys have got cooking, it's been years since we got a new ND game and it's a nitemare wait
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
If I got bored of Uncharted 4 and quit after 10 hours or so, would this be worth trying. This is on PC so I never played 1-3, so the characters mean nothing to me.
 
2 and 3 were so dam good, al time favourites amongst me and my friends - I found UC4 to be meh but the multiplayer was excellent
 

darthkarki

Member
100%. Absolute banger from start to finish. Really makes me miss Naughty Dog and sad they've wasted so much time on The Last of Us. :messenger_crying:

And yeah, it's incredible how well it holds up. I just played a bit again recently as well and was just awed at the whole walk through the warzone at the beginning. The assets, the lighting, the frickin skybox, the animations... every single aspect is just absolutely on point. True craft. Not sure I've seen anything at that level since.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
It's incredible, the sheer artistry on display is mental, I do miss Drake and Sully and think they're much better characters than Chloe & Nadine but Chloe is a great character and her constant quips keeps Nadine's overall dourness from bringing the whole game down.

Honestly the uncharted games are like a cosy blanket for me, they're simple to play but offer incredible entertainment value and I know UC4 gets ragged on and yes it lags in some spots but again the visuals, set prices and acting are just some of the best out there and I really want to go on a other new adventure with them, for the love of god please ND don't give me the daughter, spend that time and remake no.2, that was the pinnacle of this series and it needs this level of visual spectacle applied to it.

I just googled and Lost Legacy came out 7yrs ago and I've yet to see anything best it visually in this genre
 
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Business

Member
Modern ND makes games too long for their own good. Starting as a DLC gave this one the advantage of ending up the right length for a full game, as opposed to Uncharted 4 or TLOU2.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
Modern ND makes games too long for their own good. Starting as a DLC gave this one the advantage of ending up the right length for a full game, as opposed to Uncharted 4 or TLOU2.
I hear ya, both UC4 and TLOU2 are massive games, I think it took me near 30hrs each
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
It's ok to be gay, man

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Based on the previous models this is pretty much what Chloe should have looked like
I actually know two sisters that look very similar who are Indian/white
She looks very good in that photo, for some reason she doesn't look like the Lost Legacy 3D model I saw in the game and the promotional material:


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Yeah someone moved that genetics slider all the way to the mother's side.
They was even stereotypical with prominent features which is a bit racist if you think about it.
 
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urPRLiP.jpeg


Been playing this for the last few days as I fancied a bit of light hearted adventuring and jesus I had forgotten not only how good this game is but how absolutely stunning it is.

From the moment you open the big round door and gaze at the absolute wonder of the massive stone elephant gods to this level I've just reached, it's a constant stream of holy good fuck moments, the level design, the environmental artists, everything is just pure brilliance on a level that Tomb Raider just simply can't hit no matter how they get in some respects.

I had also completely forgotten the story so it was a nice bonus to see that Sam is in here having recently finished my second play through of UC4, man I wish ND threw out more of these smaller self contained stories with the same level of polish as their mainline games.

What id do to be a fly on the wall in their head office to see what these guys have got cooking, it's been years since we got a new ND game and it's a nitemare wait
Yep, on either side of the open world section this game is unreal. Especially because they went all out with the amount of water in the levels, which ND are the masters of. No one will ever do water better than they can.

I really want to see them do Atlantis.
 
Eh. Lost Legacy was fine. I'd rank it in the middle.

It played as well as Part 4, but I just did not care about the core conflict.

We never met Chloe's dad, so I feel nothing for him. All we know is he seems to have repeatedly abandoned his family to search for treasure, so I don't know why Chloe puts him on such a pedestal. I also don't understand why she hired Nadine. They have no prior relationship and Nadine hates the Drake brothers, whom Nadine is closely associated with. Nadine has years in the treasure hunting business, so surely she has other contacts she would have called first. Why not Charlie Cutter from Part 3?

I don't know anything about the political situation in India, so I didn't understand the villain's motivation. I don't understand how the villain obtaining some artifact would make him some sort of rightful ruler of India.

Nadine still sucks. I can't feel sorry in any way, shape, or form for her that she lost ownership of her private military corporation that she inherited from her father (fucking nepo baby), nor was it ever explained how she lost control of it. Did she sell a bunch of stock options to Orca and he called them in? Regardless, fuck PMCs. Fucking war mongers.

The game finally got interesting when Sam arrived on the scene. He is the one redeeming thing in this game and the only reason I would recommend it to anyone.

By analogy, Lost Legacy felt like listening to a Greatest Hits album of a band, but then finding out all the songs are actually covers. It's familiar and well assembled, but it just doesn't have the magic that made the originals.

My personal rankings of the Uncharted games, bearing in mind I've never played Golden Abyss because I've never owned a Vita:

4 > 2 > LL > 3 > 1.
Putting 1 at the bottom is an absolute travesty.

2 > 1 > Golden Abyss > 3 > Lost Legacy > 4.

4 will always be at the bottom because #1, it wasn't Amy's original version with Sam as the villain and #2, for some God forsaken reason they didn't bring Greg Edmonson back to do the final soundtrack which is disgusting.

Even if Greg Edmonson was asked and said no, Henry Jackman could have at least used the original themes. It ruins the entire experience.

Listen, I like Uncharted 4 a lot but it's not even close to the others. The only real things is does better is more free roam exploration, the gun play and the climbing mechanics. Not to mention the lack of awesome set pieces which they also skimped out on. LL did a MUCH better job with that too.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
Yep, on either side of the open world section this game is unreal. Especially because they went all out with the amount of water in the levels, which ND are the masters of. No one will ever do water better than they can.

I really want to see them do Atlantis.

The sections on the other side of the open world just keep going and going with ever more spectacular levels, the sheer sense of scale is of the charts
 
The sections on the other side of the open world just keep going and going with ever more spectacular levels, the sheer sense of scale is of the charts
I know, it honestly gave me a very similar feeling to Uncharted 2 again. Uncharted 4 just played it way too safe with most of the locations.
 
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