MAC address transmitted with Pictochat DS

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NetStumbler detects activity and gives MAC address when using Pictochat
This comes up whenever you hit the SEND button regardless of anyone else with a DS nearby.


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MAC range obviously registered to nintendo (duh)




Interesting stuff. Looks like Nintendo's local wireless is using a form of 802.11 after all. Slower bit rate but still....


This could be interesting for homebrew apps before Nintendo releases their 1st party ONLINE apps. :)


[credit for the pics - Metal_Sonic53 @ IGN]
 
I wonder how different their "proprietary" is from wifi or that wireless solution made by motorola for tha gba.

Either way I'm curious to see the possibilities :D
 
Interesting, but I wouldn't jump on the local wireless thing using some form of 802.11 just yet. Unless you also get those signals during First Hunt and SM64 DS multiplayer.
 
DarthWufei said:
Interesting, but I wouldn't jump on the local wireless thing using some form of 802.11 just yet. Unless you also get those signals during First Hunt and SM64 DS multiplayer.
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Just about to say that. I was also wondering when this topic would be brought up, However you can't 'give' a MAC address, MAC addresses are unique numbers on every NIC in the world. The DS having a MAC address is indicative that Wifi is indeed possible out-of-the-box.
 
lockii said:
Just about to say that. I was also wondering when this topic would be brought up, However you can't 'give' a MAC address, MAC addresses are unique numbers on every NIC in the world. The DS having a MAC address is indicative that Wifi is indeed possible out-of-the-box.
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No I mean NetStumbler "gives" as in shows or reads out. MAC addresses are bound to the hardware. :)
 
Pictochat seems like it probably uses 802.11 but with minimal bandwidth. I wonder how easy/hard it will be then to manipulate or tunnel signals to one another?

Can you name your DS by the way? Is that the name that shows up in Pictochat?
 
Fowler said:
Um I thought we knew the DS used Wi-Fi? Or is this something else entirely?
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It's interesting because Pictochat is transmitting a MAC Address. Which means Pictochat could have been designed with the intention of going Online at some point.
 
Fowler said:
Um I thought we knew the DS used Wi-Fi? Or is this something else entirely?
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no, we were told that the DS and most of it'slaunch games use nintendo's proprietary wireless protocol.
 
lockii said:
It's interesting because Pictochat is transmitting a MAC Address. Which means Pictochat could have been designed with the intention of going Online at some point.
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Ahhh, that makes sense.

neptunes, dunno about the launch games but check the official DS site -- the specs there list 802.11 wireless communication, which I remember hearing right from the beginning.
 
radioheadrule83 said:
Pictochat seems like it probably uses 802.11 but with minimal bandwidth. I wonder how easy/hard it will be then to manipulate or tunnel signals to one another?

Can you name your DS by the way? Is that the name that shows up in Pictochat?
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I wonder if Ping Pals would use more bandwith it allows more users???
 
yeah I know the official site says that, but it's been stated before that the DS has 2 wireless protocols.

Wifi and nintendo's own signal.
 
needlejuice said:
I wonder if there is any talk of this over on the Warp Pipe Boards.

*investigates*
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There's talk at Team Xlink ;)

Supposedly they already knew of this (some of the admins have the ds) and their playing around with it.

My take? I actually think it's possible to "tunnel" nintendo's wireless signal, but some sort of emulation on the pc would have to be done at the same time. bleh, what do I know :p

*goes back to Homework*
 
Thanks for the heads up Naz. Correct me if I'm wrong though but wasn't Demasked postponed because there was talk that Nintendo thenselves were gonna do something to the same effect ?
 
needlejuice said:
Thanks for the heads up Naz. Correct me if I'm wrong though but wasn't Demasked postponed because there was talk that Nintendo thenselves were gonna do something to the same effect ?
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This wouldn't surprise me. Bandai have Nintendo DS interfacing with PC networks, so I think it's highly likely Nintendo have thought about that possibility. Edge magazine even says they were playing about with wireless voice protocols. Not holding my breath for miracles from Nintendo themselves - but I think it's becoming clear you can do some cool things with the DS. I can't wait to get one!
 
Cool. So the situation reads something like the DS is capable but Nintendo may or may not be the company to push this side of the DS's functionality ?

It is pretty obvious given this recent news combined with what Bandai have so far accomplished that someone will have this feature nailed and soon.


Excellent.
 
needlejuice said:
Cool. So the situation reads something like the DS is capable but Nintendo may or may not be the company to push this side of the DS's functionality ?

It is pretty obvious given this recent news combined with what Bandai have so far accomplished that someone will have this feature nailed and soon.


Excellent.
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Never forget
 
Well letme tell you somethin, at the nintendo DS party on muchmusic(the french version), the Nintendo rep was whoring the hell out of the wifi, and he seriously said it was going online.(he said it at least 3 times, the host of the show is a online games whore himself). Guess they are serious... I hope.
 
wouldnt it be funny if the ds emulator(whenever that comes out) could connect with DS systems? i have a feeling they are gonna use this as a way to hack the ds.
 
Nintendo DS Progress

Well, the DS has been available for at least 24 hours in the states - and already a number of Kai users and moderators have begun to analyse the protocol the DS uses to wirelessly communicate.

At this point in time, thanks to some awesome input from Blaze and shadowace, I'm happy to say that im 90% sure that we can tunnel the DS, using the existing kaiEngine codebase. We still have a lot of testing and work to do, but I hope to be able to give you the full story as soon as possible :)

Finally, a note for UK Nintendo fans... *do not* accept the fact that when the DS becomes available here, 4 months after everyone else, you will have to pay over £150 for it.. more than twice the retail US price. In my opinion, this policy is absolutely disgusting - I just bought my DS on ebay - i paid $230 for it - £7 less then it will cost me in *March* when it's released over here. I'm just glad that some enterprising guy in the USA got my extra dollars - and not Nintendo. Do not let Nintendo rape you for double the retail price on the DS. Buy from a good ebay seller - make a stand against this sinical marketeering.
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www.teamxlink.co.uk
 
The Bookerman said:
Well letme tell you somethin, at the nintendo DS party on muchmusic(the french version), the Nintendo rep was whoring the hell out of the wifi, and he seriously said it was going online.(he said it at least 3 times, the host of the show is a online games whore himself). Guess they are serious... I hope.
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I heard the exact same thing from that show. :D
 
Chittagong said:
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Never forget
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The difference is that the DS has the 802.11 equipment built in, there's no extra hardware to buy, and developers can count on 100% of the installed base having it.
 
Finally, a note for UK Nintendo fans... *do not* accept the fact that when the DS becomes available here, 4 months after everyone else, you will have to pay over £150 for it.. more than twice the retail US price. In my opinion, this policy is absolutely disgusting - I just bought my DS on ebay - i paid $230 for it - £7 less then it will cost me in *March* when it's released over here. I'm just glad that some enterprising guy in the USA got my extra dollars - and not Nintendo. Do not let Nintendo rape you for double the retail price on the DS. Buy from a good ebay seller - make a stand against this sinical marketeering.
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why would anyone buy the DS on ebay for $230 when you can just import one for $150?
 
The DS has the potential to be the greatest portable device ever if Nintendo would set up some kind of XBox Live type service for the DS. The DS would be the ultimate time waster. They could also have a ton of parlor type games, which would be perfectly suited for a portable.
 
Idle Will Kill said:
The DS has the potential to be the greatest portable device ever if Nintendo would set up some kind of XBox Live type service for the DS. The DS would be the ultimate time waster. They could also have a ton of parlor type games, which would be perfectly suited for a portable.
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Even banned people have sense sometimes it seems. :D

Well whether its an all-encompassing Live or just a well supported PS2 - Nintendo ONLINE would be huge.

Its the biggest mistake they've made with the Gamecube, and now they can correct it with the DS in prep for the Revolution so they can pretend that now its suddenly viable.
 
Idle Will Kill said:
The DS has the potential to be the greatest portable device ever if Nintendo would set up some kind of XBox Live type service for the DS. The DS would be the ultimate time waster. They could also have a ton of parlor type games, which would be perfectly suited for a portable.
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I agree. Lord knows I agree. Not gonna happen, though :(
 
maharg said:
Nintendo is also overcharging in Canada. $200 vs. $150 in the US = $25 too much at the current exchange rate. For reference, we got the GameCube for about $10 less than Americans after exchange.
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Yeah Canadian's got hosed on the NDS this time around. But I managed to snag mine for $179.99 using the price match with the Future Shop flyer.

To stay on topic, wow this is really great news! Can't wait until we can get Remote Desktop working! :lol
 
Sony will probably have a "PSP Online" hub/service long before Nintendo does.

The only thing I worry about is what that PSP battery is gonna be like with WiFi turned on.

And yeah, DS should be a standard $179.99 CDN.
 
Perhaps the MAC address is used to identify the communicating device as first-party hardware? In other words, a precausionary measure to keep generic PDA from using software to access pictochat features with other DS. (I imagine someone will attempt to write software to allow other devices to connect to or emulate pictochat)
 
trippingmartian said:
Perhaps the MAC address is used to identify the communicating device as first-party hardware? In other words, a precausionary measure to keep generic PDA from using software to access pictochat features with other DS. (I imagine someone will attempt to write software to allow other devices to connect to or emulate pictochat)
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Won't work as you can duplicate and/or forge a mac address on most open pieces of hardware, routers, etc.
 
Does NetStumbler have to be set to some special settings or something? I ask because when I tried it just now, my wireless router wasn't picking up on the DS whatsoever.
 
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